Massport and Landline Now Let You Skip Security at Boston Logan


Landline has been something of a chameleon. Yes it’s a bus operator that likes to masquerade as a regional airline, but it’s more than that. And now it is rolling out what is probably the most interesting and useful service yet: skip security in Boston and instead do it at a remote terminal.

You probably know Landline from its primary model of acting as a regional airline flying for a network carrier under that network carrier’s brand… but using buses instead of airplanes. It started with Sun Country, but it has good-sized and growing operations with both Air Canada and American. It was flying for United, but that disappeared. It now does the Fort Collins – Denver run on its own.

The American integration is the ideal way of doing this. Let’s say you’re flying from Atlantic City to Chicago. You show up at ACY and go through security. Then you board the bus and get dropped off at a gate in Philly behind security, ready for a connection without any additional screening. That kind of model works great, but it is a longer-distance bus model. You buy a ticket from an airport that is not the hub.

The latest offering is more of a regional bus service to help people who would normally just drive or get a ride to the largest airport in their metro area. In this case, it’s Massport which has partnered with Landline to try to make the Logan Express bus service something way better.

That’s not to say Logan Express isn’t useful today. It has frequent service from Logan to Back Bay, Braintree, Danvers, Framingham, and Woburn. I’m told all of those places are real. The buses run constantly and make it much easier for travelers than sitting on traffic-choked roads. The new plan, however, is even easier than that. It starts in Framingham on June 1. Say hello to the Logan Airport Remote Terminal.

Photo via Landline

When you arrive at the terminal in Framingham, you’ll see a very modest-looking ticket counter.

To start, this service is only for Delta and JetBlue customers as the tent cards suggest, but those are the two largest airlines at the airport anyway. These counters will be staffed by Landline employees who have the ability to check your bags. (I’m told they will be able to assist with reservation issues soon enough, but the primary focus is checking bags.)

After the bags are checked, you’ll go through a TSA-staffed secure checkpoint into a modest waiting room. For now, buses leave once per hour from 4am to 11am. They will drop you off either at gate A18 for Delta or C8 for JetBlue, and then you just walk right off and into the secure concourse while your bags get sent to the sorting area for your connection.

On the return, there is no special service. Travelers just claim bags and then head to the Logan Express bus which runs every 20 to 30 minutes from 6:20am to 1:15am. And of course, there are the regular Logan Express buses going from Framingham as well if you need to travel later in the day in that direction. Over time, this service will expand, but at least there are options until it does. This is really just a proof of concept that should spread elsewhere.

The cost? It’s just $9 one way, fully refundable. So if you buy a ticket and then your flight is delayed 5 hours? You can just refund and get a new one at the new time you need. This is exactly the kind of service that eVTOLs promised to provide but at a fraction of the cost. To me, this is the eVTOL killer.

Bookings are not done through the airline. You just go to loganremote.com and punch in your flight info. Then it gives you options. For example, if I have a Delta flight at 10:55am to LA, it gives me this:

Is this as seamless as buying a ticket from Atlantic City on American? No. This is not like an actual connection on a single airline ticket. This is still a separate service which I fully expect Delta and JetBlue to sell on their own at some point. But it’s not part of the ticket, so it would just be an after-purchase add-on.

For that price, it’s hard to imagine a good reason not to take this service. Not that Boston has had terrible security lines, but this just feels so much easier and more predictable. Probably the best reason I can think of for not taking it is… you live nowhere near Framingham.

Framingham, for those who don’t know is west of Boston just inside 495. I’ve actually been there since it is the hometown of my college roommate. There is a lot of population out there, though Massport already knows that since it has regular Logan Express service today.

I can’t imagine a world where this service makes money, not at those prices. But for Massport, it’s probably a whole lot easier and cheaper to build a little box of a terminal in Framingham than to build out more space at the airport. Sure, Framingham isn’t that big by itself, but if you imagine this network of buses from all over the area where people can go through security remotely, it becomes powerful.

Here’s a great example. Remember that in my post about Raleigh/Durham, I noted how they had to knock down American’s hub Terminal C to rebuild one that wasn’t much different… it just had more headhouse space for ticket counters, security, and baggage. Now imagine if they could instead have built remote terminals in Raleigh, Durham, Cary, whatever. You might not have needed to do that.

I realize it’s not that simple, but you can see the point. It’s a great option for travelers that has benefits for an airport. I’m looking at you, LAX FlyAway service. Put security in Van Nuys and you would have a lot of happy campers. Then put it in Long Beach. And you know what? I don’t even need a remote terminal. Let me go through security at the Long Beach Airport and take the bus up. Alright, they might not like that idea, but there are a lot of potential uses for something like this.

Congrats to Landline and Massport for getting something like this together. It had to have been a challenge to wrangle all of these different authorities, though I understand TSA was very eager to expand into something like this. They’ve now created something pretty great that needs to expand all over.

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60 responses to “Massport and Landline Now Let You Skip Security at Boston Logan”

  1. Carl Avatar
    Carl

    Why would I want to leave Framingham 3 hours before my flight? There’s no time savings. If you need to arrive at the Framingham terminal early enough to check in and clear TSA. then it’s 3.5 hours before the flight.
    If you are worried about traffic, you can take a train from Framingham to south station and transfer to the silver line.
    I don’t think this buys much convenience or time savings.
    And who pays for maintaining a whole new TSA operation that is probably low productivity for the manpower?
    Count me skeptical. This doesn’t buy enough additional convenience compared to the existing Logan Express or taking the MBTA train. It will end as soon as the subsidies end.

    1. SEAN Avatar
      SEAN

      “And who pays for maintaining a whole new TSA operation that is probably low productivity for the manpower?
      Count me skeptical. This doesn’t buy enough additional convenience compared to the existing Logan Express or taking the MBTA train. It will end as soon as the subsidies end.”

      Not if Landline were to be franchised & operators like Logan express became part of a larger network… problem solved. besides who would take a coach bus to the airport & then go through security Vs security being set up where the people already are?

    2. SEAN Avatar
      SEAN

      “And who pays for maintaining a whole new TSA operation that is probably low productivity for the manpower?
      Count me skeptical. This doesn’t buy enough additional convenience compared to the existing Logan Express or taking the MBTA train. It will end as soon as the subsidies end.”

      Not if Landline were to be franchised & operators like Logan express became part of a larger network… problem solved. besides who would take a coach bus to the airport & then go through security Vs security being set up where the people already are?

    3. Alex B. Avatar
      Alex B.

      It sure seems like they are solving the problem of missing a flight due to traffic by excessively padding the schedule – blocking 90 minutes for the secure bus, when the normal bus is advertised at 35-45 minutes.

      Based on that, it might be more convenient, but won’t likely save any time.

  2. Southside Emil Avatar
    Southside Emil

    What if I don’t want to check my bags? What if I just want to take a shuttle to Logan and deal with security there?

    1. SEAN Avatar
      SEAN

      This way those who want to go to Logan direct will have shorter TSA lines, everyone wins. If they could blend Landline with Logan express, that will be ideal.

      Bett yet setting up mini terminals around the country in both cities & regional bus terminals to large hubs would be great. As the PABT in NYC gets redeveloped adding a dedicated space for Landline would be smart.

    2. Brett Avatar

      Southside – Logan Express still operates its regular bus service, so you can take that

  3. Kilroy Avatar
    Kilroy

    I saw this on the local news and I was hoping you’d cover this. I hope that this service expands to the similar locations (not just those run by Logan Express in Mass, but also those in NH, which are privately run but I believe subsidized in part by NH state government), as there are already well-established and heavily used coach bus services taking people from the Boston suburbs in MA/NH to Logan and to Boston’s public transit hubs (e.g, South Station), serving both commuters & travelers.

    Does this service include TSA PreCheck options, or provide anything special for Known Crew Members? Even if not, I assume aircrews would be able to use it the same as the regular public. There are a number of pilots and FAs who take the airport shuttles to Logan.

    Context for people not familiar with the area: On-airport parking at BOS is ~$40-50/day, while off-airport parking runs roughly half that (and I have had the contents of my car rummaged through multiple times when using cheap off-airport parking); obviously both of those require fighting Boston area traffic, which is doable but not the most fun way to start or end a trip, as the tunnels/bridges in Boston can see traffic jams at all hours and often shut down overnight for weeks at a time for extended maintenance. In contrast, parking at the official Logan Express sites is ~$7/day. Parking at the similar services in NH along I-95, I-93, & Route 3 runs from $0-$3/day, with buses running every 30-60 minutes at ~$20 each way. While parking can be a challenge, especially at peak holiday times (“free” or overly cheap parking at the state-owned commuter lots the shuttles originate in mean that the parking gets misused, and authorities don’t do a great job of enforcing parking rules), the service for the shuttles to Logan is very good in my experience (I’ve seen them have a backup bus ready to go, in case they were 1 passenger over the capacity of the bus in question), and most people I know who try the shuttles won’t use anything else for leisure trips.

    As an aside, that part of Massachusetts has a lot of city/town names (Woburn, Worcester, and Tewksbury come to mind) that are shibboleths. There are also a number of city names (most from the UK, for obvious reasons) in NE Mass or SE Mass that one often has to clarify, as there are municipalities with the same name in NH or RI.

    1. Brett Avatar

      Kliroy – Great question on Precheck. I am told that it’s a Precheck light, you know like at some airports where they give you that paper to give to the screener so you go through the regular metal detector and can leave your stuff in your bag and all that? It has that option. Not sure about Known Crewmember.

      1. Kilroy Avatar
        Kilroy

        Brett,

        Makes sense. Yes, I’ve flown through a number of smaller airports where they give you the laminated card to walk through the metal detector with if you are PreCheck, and also put the metal bar in front of your bag on the X-ray, or similar. Glad they are implementing that at Framingham.

        I’m not employed by an airline, so I’m not sure what benefits (if any) the KCM program has, just figured I’d ask that in the same breath, especially as I often see signs for that next to the Clear/PreCheck lines.

        1. NedsKid Avatar
          NedsKid

          Kilroy – KCM is a managed risk program for working crew members to basically bypass security screening. There are random selectees to go through security (at a MUCH higher rate than passengers) in which case they have to go through the checkpoint… but they can have full size liquids and all that. Given that these folks have access to the flight deck anyway, it’s a risk managed program to save time and resources all around. The ID requirements are also far in excess of passenger requirements.

          1. Kilroy Avatar
            Kilroy

            Thanks for the succinct summary, good to know and much appreciated.

    2. Hajime Sano Avatar
      Hajime Sano

      I’ve also been following this news, from SoCal. This would be awesome to have on the Route 3 corridor. From 2021-2025 when I was prepping my parents’ Chelmsford house for sale, I’d fly from LAX-BOS 3-4 times/year. I’d often take the Boston Express bus to Tyngsboro, have my nephew pick me up, then rent from Hertz in Chelmsford. It was usually (but not always) a lot cheaper to rent off-airport. The bus was low stress, and it picked up/dropped off at the airport curb. Much easier than wrangling all my stuff for a 4-6 week stay via the rental car shuttle. If airport check-in and security were included when boarding, it would be a no-brainer for me.

      Now, I dread dragging my stuff on and off the rental car shuttle. Staying for 4-6 weeks, I have a lot of stuff with me.

  4. Mac Avatar
    Mac

    I don’t think I’d get to BOS 1h 25m before departure even if I had to clear security. I don’t think I’m totally alone either. The casual fliers probably aren’t in the know enough or savvy enough to use this service. That leaves only the Lounge warriors who might enjoy this or, with only hourly service, the rare occasion where the timing lines up perfectly. I just don’t really see the point

    1. SEAN Avatar
      SEAN

      If demand grows than service will as well &there’s a potential pool of users out there especially as gas prices increase.

    2. See_Bee Avatar
      See_Bee

      There are still other passenger archetypes that want to get to the airport that early. My in-laws are a prime example of watching the news too much, are constantly paranoid about security wait times, and therefore arrive at the airport 2.5+ hours before their flight, regardless of airport, day of week, time of year, gov’t funding, etc.

      Think of all the price sensitive boomers with too much time on their hands now that they’ve retired and want to travel more. That’s the people who will take this (and there’s a lot of them)

    3. Kilroy Avatar
      Kilroy

      Keep in mind that these shuttles serve locations that are 30-60+ minute drives from Logan, depending on traffic (which works for both those taking shuttles and those driving), and that Boston metro area has some of the most unpredictable traffic in the country.

      By the time you park at Logan or (especially) offsite and get to the curb, that adds some time too.

      While this option may not be ideal for business travelers (whose companies likely pay for their Ubers/parking, and who tend to be more time sensitive than price sensitive), one benefit for business travelers (for all the airport shuttles in the area, not just this one that has the TSA PreCheck) is that they can work on the ride into Logan, as the buses and terminals have free WiFi.

      If you’re looking at saving $20+ per day on parking and aren’t doing business travel, the savings and avoiding the headaches of driving through Boston area traffic yourself tend to make the shuttles an attractive and convenient option, even when you have to go through security at Logan. (Sidenote: I rarely have to wait more than 3 minutes for TSA PreCheck at Logan, especially at Terminal A). That’s why I take the shuttles for my leisure travel out of BOS; the extra time is worth the convenience for me.

      In the end, though, as much as I like this option, I’m not sure how much convenience it would really add for me if I had it at the shuttle stop that I use to get to Logan, as opposed to similar shuttles that require pax to go through security at Logan, just because security at Logan tends to be super quick for me with TSA PreCheck.

  5. Sid Avatar
    Sid

    Is there a special lane for this bus? What happens when it gets to the tunnel?

    I can see this working for Rockford to O’Hare

    1. Chris Avatar
      Chris

      Rockford already has this with AA. Instead of departing from a remote terminal, you actually go through security at the RFD airport and board the bus airside. https://www.rockrivercurrent.com/2025/09/how-does-the-rockford-airport-bus-service-with-american-airlines-work/

      My in-laws have taken it a few times and really like the convenience.

      1. Southside Emil Avatar
        Southside Emil

        Where does it drop you off at ORD?

        1. Chris Avatar
          Chris

          Terminal 3. I believe it drops you at L27.

          1. Jumbo Avatar
            Jumbo

            There’s a special security entrance for these busses at the end of the L Concourse.

    2. Kilroy Avatar
      Kilroy

      It could also be interesting to see if MKE to ORD might work.

      For context in a similar situation, there are regular shuttles (albeit in ~14 passenger “church van” style vehicles) from Chattanooga to ATL, which are a ~2 hour drive apart without traffic, vs 1 hour from MKE to ORD.

    3. Brett Avatar

      Sid – No special lane, you just don’t have to drive so even if there’s traffic you can be on the wifi doing work or watching videos or whatever.

  6. Matt D Avatar
    Matt D

    I seem to recall that JetBlue actually ran flights between LGB-BUR some years ago. I don’t remember if it was actual service or just a publicity stunt.

    But either way, I wonder if it would be a viable service. Because. You know. The 405.

    I sometimes forget how truly awful LA traffic is.

    Last Fall, when I drove down from Tulare for a two day photo session at LAX, it took me 2hr45min to drive from LAX to where I stay in West Covina. On a good day, if I time it right, and have a little luck, I can make the entire 200 mile drive from Tulare to WC in just 15 more min at 3 hr.

    The trek via the 105/605/10 is only around 30 or so miles.

    Yikes.

    Too bad there’s no airport near either city. Although FAT-ONT service would be fantastic. AirCal did it in the 1970’s. And Delta (via SkyWest) did it in the early 1990’s.

    I now forget where I was going with this and the point I was getting at. Something about lines and convenience…….

    Carry on.

    1. Brett Avatar

      Matt D – That was not a scheduled flight from LGB to BUR. They ran it over a weekend when the 405 freeway was closed as a publicity stunt.

  7. Wany Avatar
    Wany

    I like the flexibility offered here over the bus flight. Imagine you are “flying” to ACY to meet a friend. Later that friend suggests that they can pick you up from PHL instead and you go with it without realizing you skiplegged the PHL-ACY “flight” and your return flights are now cancelled.
    The higher frequency is also helpful in the event of delay etc.
    Sadly this kind of public service is going to lose massive amount of money on the surface and the value it provides is very difficult to quantify. It is on the chopping block the next time someone decide to look at the balance sheet and remove “unnecessary” public spending. I mean folks are already here complaining about its cost.

  8. Nahm from Boston Avatar
    Nahm from Boston

    They can be profitable if they sell booze onboard!! A Cheers on wheels!

  9. NedsKid Avatar
    NedsKid

    This is fantastic. It is a natural evolution of the fairly comprehensive bus system already in place from remote parking areas to Logan as it is. I’ve taken the C&J from up in New Hampshire. Yeah, for those traveling frequently and who aren’t checking bags and would show up at the airport 45 minutes to departure anyway (and have a company paying for their parking), this is not useful. But for many leisure travelers, especially those going away for a week at a time, this is amazing.

    From contacts at TSA, they love this sort of arrangement. It helps reduce the need to expand in constrained airport facilities. It also is much much easier to staff. Example: Concord (USA) airport near CLT got busy enough with Avelo’s opening of a base (in addition to the Allegiant flights) to become its own designated TSA staffing point rather than just assigning agents there from CLT perhaps driving them in a van to work a single flight then back to base. When it became a separate group, it went very very senior for TSOs. Why? Well, it’s closer to where they live. Parking to time clock is about 90 seconds. Officers can leave the premises on an hour break between flight operations and go home for 45 minutes easily. Much better quality of life….

    1. Kilroy Avatar
      Kilroy

      Agreed. I’ve taken both C&J (on I-95) and Boston Express (on I-93/Route 3) from NH to Logan many times, and love the service. As you noted, for leisure travelers especially who are going on longer trips (I tend to see a lot of older retirees on the shuttles), the coach shuttle buses are amazing options, even when you have to go through security at Logan.

      While most business travelers would probably prefer to park at Logan or take an Uber to reduce the wait time at the airport, the shuttles offer free WiFi, so people can (and do) work on the bus instead of fighting traffic behind the wheel of their own car or sitting in an Uber without internet. That’s what many of the people who use the shuttles to commute to Boston do, use the WiFi to catch up on emails before they get to the office.

  10. John G Avatar
    John G

    There is a better reason they could use to sell this service…parking. Massport Framingham’s parking garage is $7 a day.

    At Logan it’s $46.

    Say you are going on a four-day trip. If you drive and park, it’s $184 plus tolls. Or you could get an Uber…which right this minute pulls up as $80 each way. That’s $160.

    This service would be $18 round trip plus $28 for parking…a total of $46. So you’d save $140 over driving and parking, or still over $100 for an Uber. It’s convenient AND a lot cheaper.

    1. southbay flier Avatar
      southbay flier

      Or if you happen to live in Framingham or Natick, you could just take an Uber to the bus terminal. Or if you are coming from further west, it’s right off the Pike.

      I hope that works. If so, they can add some more stations outside of 128.

      1. Kilroy Avatar
        Kilroy

        Logan Express has a number of locations, but most are near the beltway (128/similar) around Boston.

        C&J runs a shuttle down I-95 roughly (from Dover NH / Portsmouth NH / Seabrook NH to Logan), and Boston Express / Concord Coach (same company) runs shuttles from Concord/N Londonderry/Salem down I-93 and from Nashua NH / Tyngsboro MA down Route 3. All of those serve commuters and travelers.

        I’ve love to see a similar service in southern NH, but the above locations that I’m familiar with can be tight on parking, often even outside of major holidays.

        Given the relative proximity of PSM/MHT, it could also be interesting to try to have pax park and clear airport security at those airports, then take a bus down to Logan… That would eliminate the need for additional security setups, use the airports a bit more (MHT doesn’t have as much service as it used to), and still provide relatively similar convenience, albeit at the cost of a little more expensive parking. While PSM & MHT might balk at offering such a service, I’d argue that pax sitting in the terminal waiting for the bus would be tempted to fly out of those airports next time instead of out of Logan, so it could work to help get pax “in the door” at those smaller airports.

        I believe at one point there were also bus shuttles (albeit outside of security) from MHT to BOS, before they eliminated those in favor of service from the commuter lots on Rt 3 / I-93.

        1. southbay flier Avatar
          southbay flier

          I didn’t know that Concord Coach and Boston Express were the same company. I’m familiar with Concord Coach because they have a line that goes up the coast of Maine one a day and their stop in Rockland is at the ferry terminal which I’ve taken a ferry out of most years.

          I do see the potential in all those locations since Logan is a real pain in the ass to get to and anything to reduce the number of cars there is a positive. The biggest worry I would have is if one has a late-night flight that is delayed until after the last bus leaves.

          This year I decided to book a ticket from SFO-BOS-RKD to avoid driving in Boston and trying to get a car onto the ferry. Plus, I get to try Cape Air for the first time.

          1. Kilroy Avatar
            Kilroy

            I agree about the super early and super late flights. It’s risky to take the buses if you have flights that are scheduled to depart much before 6 am or arrive much after 930 pm.

            Yes, they are the same company (along with Dartmouth Coach); not sure why they have the different branding.

            For the I-93 corridor, I believe Concord Coach branded buses do the Concord > North Londonderry > Boston South Station (on some runs) > Logan run, while Boston Express buses do North Londonderry > Salem > Boston South Station (on some runs) > Logan run.

            There’s a big bus maintenance facility in the North Londonderry location, but even with > 700 spaces, long term parking is TIGHT there all the time (95+% full in the mornings even during non-holidays). People park illegally and in the grass without consequences, and the state doesn’t enforce the “no overnight parking” in the commuter portion of that lot with towing or tickets (I saw cars in that part of the lot covered with snow in January, even days after the last snow storm). If I were a commuter from that location I’d be angry about that, but I can’t blame NH for making that a low priority. As it is, I like to drive by the parking lot the night before my trip to see how bad the parking is, and if I only see a few spots available I’ll allow extra time or plan to head down to Salem or a Logan Express location instead.

            I’ve have nothing but great experiences with Boston Express on the I-93 corridor and with C&J on the I-95 corridor. Most of ticket agents at Boston Express are super sweet older ladies who work regular shifts (I always see the same ones) and who are very upbeat and chipper at 5 am; seems like a good job for them and dealing with them is a great way to start a trip.

            1. Hajime Sano Avatar
              Hajime Sano

              The Tyngsboro location has a trailer with staff, but it closes around 2 PM. They say when its open, buy tickets inside. If not, buy tickets from the driver. I always found the early closing time a bit odd. Plus there’s nothing there but the Park and Ride lot, so no way to check on anything if your phone battery dies.

              I usually arrived in the morning from LAX on a redeye so luckily their operating hours didn’t affect me too much. I flew out in the evening so same there.

              One of the cool parts about taking the bus into Logan was the brief moments driving behind the Fenway Park Green Monster, and driving behind Warrior Center (Bruins practice ice rink).

  11. SubwayNut Avatar

    In terms of Airline Crews/Employees I have a friend who works for American Airlines (in management) and lives in Chicago, he was telling he’s curious about Landlike and I asked him if he could just standby on it and go on a loop trip taking Landline one-way and our commuter train, the South Shore Line the other way (that ends at the SBN Airport). He said he can’t and can only book Landline in conjuction with a plane ticket, it’s coded differently in their employee system.

    1. Southside Emil Avatar
      Southside Emil

      CF, would rail work like the South Shore, Metra, etc?

      1. Brett Avatar

        Southside – I don’t see how they could do this with rail since the rail line doesn’t go into the secure area.

        1. southbay flier Avatar
          southbay flier

          Other than Philly, how many intercity commuter rail lines actually go to the airport?

          1. SEAN Avatar
            SEAN

            Sound Transit Line 1 SEA
            TriMet Red PDX
            Metro Blue MSP
            BART SFO & OAK
            Metro C & K LAX
            CTA Orange MDW/ Blue ORD
            RTA Red CLE
            WMATA Silver IAD/ Yellow, Blue DCA & MARC Penn BWI
            Tri-Rail FLL
            MDT ORANGE MIA
            MARTA ATL
            DART Orange/ CoTtonbelt DFW
            RTD A DEN
            UTA Tracks SLC

            1. southbay flier Avatar
              southbay flier

              Those are all Metro/Light Rail systems. They are not intercity commuter rail lines like Metra in Chicago, Metro North in NYC and so on. BART to SFO is kind of a weird hybrid. BART doesn’t go to OAK, it’s a separate people mover that goes along Hegenberger Ave.

              MARC would count to BWI.

            2. SEAN Avatar
              SEAN

              You did not specify. Rail transit is rail transit regardless if it is light, heavy or hybrid.

          2. Southside Emil Avatar
            Southside Emil

            CTA in Chicago. Terminal 2 ORD

            1. Leo B Avatar
              Leo B

              Let’s not forget SEPTA. It has 4 stations in PHL, namely Terminal A, Terminal B, Terminals C & D, and Terminals E & F. SEPTA is an Interstate commuter rail line, with stations in Delaware and NJ in addition to its home state of Pennsylvania.

            2. Narita Kuko Avatar
              Narita Kuko

              Brightline is heavy Inter-City 125 mph rail which goes right into the Terminal C building at MCO, and also goes near FLL and West Palm Beach airports. Also has a shuttle to MIA from Miami Central Terminal to MIA

    2. dfw88 Avatar
      dfw88

      I’m not sure what your friend is talking about; that’s completely incorrect. The AA nonrev system lets you standby on Landline the exact same as on any AA regional flight.

  12. Pilotaaron1 Avatar
    Pilotaaron1

    I think PHX would be a good candidate for this type of service. AZA-PHX or GYR-PHX, cheaper parking, less traffic, and brought right into the terminal. Just seems like wins all around, especially for those in Buckeye or San Tan Valley. YNG-PIT would also be good especially because YNG already has the infrastructure in place though maybe not the once per hour frequent service.

  13. 1990 Avatar
    1990

    Anything helps. More buses. More carpooling. More trams. More trains. More. Less personal vehicles. Less parking problems in city centers. Less tolls. Less gas money. Less pollution. Even if this idea isn’t ‘for you,’ that’s okay… let it be. It may work well for others.

  14. jfruh Avatar
    jfruh

    The FlyAway terminal in Van Nuys that opened in 2004 “includ[es] provisions for future airline ticketing and checked-baggage services” according to the Wikipedia article, so I suppose it’s possible!

  15. DesertGhost Avatar
    DesertGhost

    Intermodal transportation in the U.S. could use some improvement.

  16. Anthony Avatar
    Anthony

    This use makes more sense than the AA ACY example. I’m surprised Landline can get buy-in from smaller airports like ACY since bus boarding does not count as air service in the context of federal funding, so the airports which host this service are not collecting TSA fees or passenger facility charges. The airport is absorbing the cost of more pax in the terminal without any of the reimbursable funding. Maybe they think it makes sense to collect parking and dining/retail revenues. Landline approached PAE and SEA to setup this service but it hasn’t gone anywhere.

    1. NedsKid Avatar
      NedsKid

      The TSA fee is collected on the tickets from ACY or RFD or what not.

      It doesn’t count as enplanements for federal funding. PFC may not be collected, but the airport gains more valuable things like parking revenue that goes straight to its bottom line as well as collecting lease or per passenger fees (depending on the airport’s structure for charges) from the airline. It also drives more concession revenue which in turn helps with concession rates and revenue sharing. Yeah, they don’t get the $4.50 per pax, but they get quite a bit.

  17. cfa1999 Avatar
    cfa1999

    May have been mentioned already but one additional benefit of expanding this to the private services is that they might not need extra TSA checkpoints set up.

    Smaller regional airports in the Boston metro area have largely unutilized or underutilized terminal facilities with TSA checkpoints that could easily accommodate a traditional Landline-style operation. PSM, MHT and ORH all come to mind, not to mention places slightly further afield like LEB or PWM.

    The challenge probably comes at the BOS end – the Vehicle Service Road at BOS is busy enough without being clogged by commercial buses!

  18. phllax Avatar
    phllax

    The airlines need to look and see how Volaris and Viva offer the CBX fee as part of the fare when booking into or out of TIJ and how Viva offers bus connections in Mexico City and other hubs as well. You’re able to either bundle it or not.

    1. David M Avatar

      Volaris lists TJX as a separate destination, bundling the fare from Tijuana with the CBX fee, but it only works for domestic flights. I flew Volaris to Costa Rica earlier this year and there was no option for TJX-SJO, only TIJ-SJO. They did still offer the CBX fee as an add on, but it was more expensive than buying the CBX ticket from the CBX website.

  19. Bill from DC Avatar
    Bill from DC

    Great idea (bus service as seamless “connecting flights” to and from nearby major airports) with horrible, nonsensical, illogical execution.

    Why build and staff all of these little boxes when they could instead have these buses pick up literally anyplace they wanted then take everybody to a bigger box at Logan that would allow all passengers to check in and clear security in ONE PLACE!

    Just like the commenter described above at ORD. Similar to what used to happen at very small airports prior to 9/11. I remember boarding a plane in CMX (Houghton / Hancock MI) and clearing security… when we got off the plane at MSP.

    This plan instead creates multiple unnecessary buildings and infrastructure as well as an absurd amount of duplicative staffing and logistics relative to a single intake facility at Logan. Make it make sense.

  20. Leo B Avatar
    Leo B

    This is a great idea, but it is not something new. We used the Tokyo City Air Terminal (T-CAT) several times in the 1990’s. T-CAT was just like being at Narita airport but it was in central Tokyo. Several airlines had desks where we would check-in for our flights, get seat checks, drop off our luggage and receive luggage claim checks, and then get a ticket for the bus to Narita. None of this had to booked in advance.

    There was no need to stay at T-CAT. So frequently we would to to T-CAT in the morning, complete the check-in, book a later bus, and then leave T-CAT to spend a few hours in Tokyo. T-CAT had coin-operated luggage lockers, so we did have to carry our carry-on luggage throughout Tokyo.

    The greatest time-saver was that just before getting on the bus, we went through Customs and Immigration and got a card that permitted us to skip the long Customs and Immigration lines at Narita.

  21. SPMiscell Avatar
    SPMiscell

    Since Delta’s terminal and the rest of Logan aren’t connected airside, how does drop off work?

    1. Hajime Sano Avatar
      Hajime Sano

      From what I see, Delta airside drop off is at Terminal A, Gate A18. jetBlue airside drop off is at Terminal C, Gate C8 as per https://www.landlineco.com/news/massport .

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