Plenty of Empty Seats Flying United Home from Atlanta (Trip Report)


Finding a return from Atlanta was not as clear-cut as choosing my American flight out. I could have flown American in coach on the nonstop using miles, but that was too late in the day. I also didn’t want to leave super early since… well, Atlanta. This was at the tail end of the most recent TSA funding disaster, so security lines had me nervous that I’d just have to go the night before and establish a primitive camp in the airport. So, I transferred some Chase points over to United, because for 15,000 points I could fly via Houston mid-morning, and that seemed like a good way to go.

All indications were that security lines weren’t too bad that morning since the president had recently decided to pay TSA workers directly, but would I trust that? I would. And I probably should have trusted it even more than I did.

After dropping off the rental car, I got to security an hour and a half before departure. That was about an hour more than I needed. There was no line. At all. Don’t believe me?

I have finally did the work to allow Touchless PreCheck on United, so I went through that line which was manned by a TSA agent. Some of the more basic ID checking was being done by a combination of TSA and ICE agents. At least, there were a lot of them milling around, so I think a couple of them may have been actually doing something productive… maybe.

I walked to the far end of the T gates where United has their nicely renovated banjo hanging off the end. I had no idea this even existed, but it is an open and airy space.

My United app kept me updated as I sat there trying to do a little work in the gate area. When it was time to board, I realized I was in group 3… and there weren’t a lot of people in any group on this flight. It was shockingly empty.

From Atlanta
➤ Scheduled Departure: 910a
➤ Actual Departure: 911a
➤ From Gate: T17
➤ Wheels Up: 923a
➤ From Runway: 8R

To Houston/IAH
➤ Wheels Down: 1011a
➤ On Runway: 8L
➤ Scheduled Arrival: 1037a
➤ Actual Arrival: 1020a
➤ At Gate: C36

Aircraft
➤ Type: Airbus A319-132
➤ Delivered: October 18, 2005 to China Southern
➤ Registered: N884UA, msn 2579
➤ Livery: 2019 Globe

Flight
➤ Cabin: Coach in Seat 19A
➤ Load: ~35% Full
➤ Flight Time: 1h48m

This was on an A319 that United acquired during the pandemic, and it has the United Next interior onboard. You wouldn’t have been able to tell this airplane was 20+ years old, because it looked spectacular on the inside.

I was unwilling to pay for Economy Plus or Preferred Seating, so I trudged past empty row after empty row until I found my window at the back. There would be nobody else in my row on this flight. Oh, did I mention it was empty?

We pushed back just about on-time and had a short taxi to the runway for departure. We took off to the east and then circled around past downtown. Just as I was about to take a photo of the city, a thin layer of clouds got in between us. Drat.

I had started watching Roofman on the in-seat video while we were still on the ground, and my Beats headsets effortlessly connected to the bluetooth. I was, by the way, greeted by name on this flight.

Then, my row went dark. The system rebooted in my row only, and it took away precious minutes for me to try to finish this movie on the relatively short flight.

Annoyingly when it started back up again, it did not save my place in the movie. (It did, however, automatically reconnect to Bluetooth.)

The flight attendants came through with drinks and snacks as we cruised southwest toward Houston. There wasn’t much for them to do with so few people onboard.

When it was time to descend, I could see a layer of cumulus clouds down below which, thanks to the long approach from the west, we sat in for some time. Those things really have the ability to toss you around. Here was a short break with a view of… something.

The girls in the row behind me were so anxious about it that they clapped aggressively on landing. We taxied for about 7 hours to get from the northernmost runway all the way down to gate C36, but we were still at the gate 15 minutes early. I had time to kill, so once we got to the gate, I got off and went for a walk.

Oh sure, I could have just followed United’s very helpful app directions (and text message) guiding me to my connecting gate, but it’s not often I go to Houston.

So I figured I’d walk around. I went from C over to the E concourses further east, then I backtracked a bit and crossed over to D on the north side. There, I cruised by a checkpoint where ICE agents were standing around doing absolutely nothing. I really don’t understand why someone thought this was a good idea.

After cruising D, I walked further west to the other side of C and found my gate. This airport is so big, and it really does feel like they cobbled together these terminals in a random fashion. I did see the new gates being built west of the existing C though. I’m sure that’ll be nice and help bring United’s operation into a smaller footprint. (Do they leave B when that opens?) (Update: After further review, I see the new gates being built aren’t a C extension but rather a B replacement, so of course United won’t leave B.)

Once I got to my gate, I took notice of the seating areas. They had a lot of different types of seating including comfortable chairs, workspaces, and more. You could also order food and have it delivered to you. I liked it a lot, but fortunately, my walk meant I didn’t have too much time to kill anyway.

Again I was in group 3 for this flight, and when they called me, I boarded with another relatively light load — though nowhere near as light as the first flight.

From Houston/IAH
➤ Scheduled Departure: 1225p
➤ Actual Departure: 1218p
➤ From Gate: C7
➤ Wheels Up: 1253p
➤ From Runway: 15R

To Los Angeles
➤ Wheels Down: 206p
➤ On Runway: 25L
➤ Scheduled Arrival: 208p
➤ Actual Arrival: 211p
➤ At Gate: 84

Aircraft
➤ Type: Boeing 737-9 MAX
➤ Delivered: March 8, 2025
➤ Registered: N77581, msn 43522
➤ Livery: 2019 Globe

Flight
➤ Cabin: Coach in Seat 35A
➤ Load: ~65% Full
➤ Flight Time: 3h13m

This was on a B737-9 MAX with the United Next interior. You really don’t think about it, but that airplane is so long. I was again way in the back, and it felt like I had walked back to the D concourse by the time I got there.

I took my seat, and the middle stayed open. Good, good, we were off to a good start.

The pilots came on and were absolute rock stars on the PA. First, they said thanks to Sage and someone else who were two little kids who had visited the cockpit during boarding. I’m sure those girls will remember that forever. Then, they apologized and said it was just generally a bumpy day and the flight attendants would need to stay seated for awhile. That’s no fun.

We pushed back on time and taxied to the runway, and then we sat. According to the pilots, apparently the rampers did our weight and balance work but didn’t sign off on the paperwork. It was a shift change, so they had now gone home. The ops team was desperately trying to get a hold of them, so they could sign off on the paperwork. I appreciated the transparency, but also… what the hell?!? After a 20 minute-or-so delay, it was cleared up.

We got into the air and after being lightly battered by those cumulus clouds, we climbed up to altitude and hoped for the best. The pilots said we would go to 30,000 feet and see if the ride was ok. It started that way, and the flight attendants got up. It took quite some time for their service to get to my row since they started at the front. But that’s ok, because now I was watching Marty Supreme.

And then my row rebooted itself again. Once seems like a glitch. Twice on two different flights feels like something I’m doing is breaking the system. If anyone at United needs to test my Beats, just let me know and I’ll be happy to go fly somewhere exotic and help you out.

Once we got to West Texas, the seatbelt sign came on again and the flight attendants had to sit down. We were sitting in between cloud layers almost the entire way back to LA from West Texas as I saw our ground speed tick lower and lower as winds stiffened. It did smooth out for awhile, and the flight attendants came through with water refills for those who needed it before it was time to sit down again.

Once we got to California, the weather had really started to move in. We were sitting in a high overcast and the flight attendants were told to button up early. The bumps picked up significantly, and it felt pretty sporty there in the 10,000 to 20,000 foot range on descent. Then again, it could have just been because I was in the back of an absurdly-long B737. That tail can really swing back there.

It smoothed out once we got closer to the ground. We planted on the runway and had a short taxi back to Terminal 8. Even with the delayed departure due to weight-and-balance, we blocked in only one minute late.

Other than the weirdness around weight-and-balance paperwork and randomly-rebooting screens, this was a good experience. The United app really is so good, and it does overlay the entire experience. I’m not sure why others haven’t put as much into that effort. And those big screens were certainly nice to have on both airplanes. Service was friendly, bins were big… for coach this was all I could have asked for.

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44 responses to “Plenty of Empty Seats Flying United Home from Atlanta (Trip Report)”

  1. SEAN Avatar
    SEAN

    And why was the flight from Atlanta so empty? All the alphas & batas were flying Delta!

    1. See_Bee Avatar
      See_Bee

      “Only beautiful people fly Delta”

      -Ed, probably

    2. Jason Avatar
      Jason

      It’s spelled “beta”.

  2. Bobber Avatar
    Bobber

    My recent experience at ORD, DTW and EWR with regards to ICE productivity was similar to yours, Brett – lots of standing around not doing much. However, there was a nice bit of intimidation going on when boarding EWR-LHR as customs officials were stopping everyone on the jet bridge to interrogate them as to how much currency they were leaving the US with. As for load factors, all of my flights out of the US have been full, my flights entering the US have been ~50% at best. It’s almost as if people don’t want to come here at the moment…

    1. Alan Z Avatar
      Alan Z

      you think!

    2. Danny Avatar
      Danny

      This might just be your United experience. I just flew AMS-JFK and LIS-JFK in April and both flights were packed.

      1. 1990 Avatar
        1990

        Probably because NYC is one of the few places still worth visiting… *cough*

  3. Jason Avatar
    Jason

    United has been pretty public that it will inhabit all of B at IAH once construction is complete. They put out several press releases about it. I thought you followed the industry?

    1. Iowa Airspace Avatar
      Iowa Airspace

      His website is called Cranky Flier not Random Airline Hub Terminal Press Release Updates

      1. Jason Avatar
        Jason

        He covers the industry as his job,and these are pretty prominent investments that United has very publicly announced, for one of its largest hubs. I dont think it’s out of line for me to be surprised he isnt aware of it.

    2. JT8D Avatar
      JT8D

      If lack of attention to Houston aviation activities damages your life enjoyment, you’re welcome to cease engagement with services provided by Amalgamated CrankyUniversalEnterprises, Aktiengesellshaft, SA, LLP

      As hard as it will be, the rest of us will do our best to soldier on without you.

      1. Jason Avatar
        Jason

        I just expect somebody who makes his living opining on the industry to be aware of fairly significant investments the airline very publicly announces at important hubs. It’s not a stretch. I’m actually surprised you’re so offended and decided to be so rude about it. Says a lot about who you are as a person.

        1. Chris Avatar
          Chris

          Perhaps your sarcasm came across as a bit rude?

      2. Brett Avatar

        Now, now. Yes, Jason is being a real dick, but on the bright side this made me go back and look what is actually happening at this airport. Press releases are not clear at all, but I think I see what’s happening now after finding some helpful third-party videos. This isn’t an extension of C even though the eastern pier looks like it might be closer to the C headhouse. This is a rebuild of the north half of B. So of course United won’t leave B. I just have never paid attention to this airport which still looks like it was built by a drunken sailor.

        1. Jason Avatar
          Jason

          I do agree – it’s strung out and much more oriented to local o/d traffic than connections. But that’s how it was originally built 50 or so years ago and that’s what they have to work with. Thank goodness there’s a train to facilitate connections. My manner may be a bit caustic, but everybody learned something here.

        2. Tory Avatar

          > I just have never paid attention to this airport which still looks like it was built by a drunken sailor.

          Don’t knock IAH! Yes, it had to evolve piecemeal over 56 years from an O&D airport to a megahub, but they’ve done a fairly good job with it. As a local, what I like about it is that it distributes the traffic over multiple terminals instead of one main congested entryway. It’s less efficient for TSA, but it’s definitely better for travellers. Of course I don’t have to connect thru it, so it may not be as good experience for connectors if the gates are far apart (although the simple tram is quite fast and efficient with short rides). But I think it’s better than what they ended up with at DFW (too spread apart with long tram rides for connectors) or DEN or ATL (too congested entry/exit/TSA for locals – great for connectors though as long as the trains are running!) or CLT (overloaded) – it’s a good hybrid for both local O&D and connectors. And the 5 runway layout (3 parallel arriving, 1 departing west, 1 departing east) tends to keep the planes flowing pretty well (Continental used to support 700+ flights/day from IAH, UA is currently closer to 500 as E-W traffic shifted to DEN and ORD after the merger).

  4. MaxPower Avatar
    MaxPower

    “I was, by the way, greeted by name on this flight.”

    Might just be me, but I don’t really need my seat mates knowing my name in bold letters when I sit down. It’s enough of a scary situation not knowing if you’re going to sit down next to an endless talker

    1. David M Avatar

      I experienced the personalized greeting on United recently as well. There’s an option to not show your name if you don’t want it to. But other than showing my name, I’m not sure what the personalization was supposed to do. It didn’t do anything obvious, like show details specific to my connection.

      1. Chris Avatar
        Chris

        It’s part of their Kinective Media initiative. Once you “authenticate” by inputting your birthday, all the preroll ads that they show will likely by personalized based on your demographic data and other PII that they have about you. Based on that, they’ll likely be able to charge advertisers even more (no more Marriott and credit card ads only).

      2. Brad Avatar
        Brad

        I saw some promotional info from UA that part of the personalization, in addition to your own custom ads and such, is the system will do things like save the spot where you stopped watching a movie (gate arrival) and offer you the option on a future flight to pick up where you left off. This might be handy on multi-leg days, but I’m not sure I need to pickup a movie I was watching two weeks ago…

        Of course, all bets are off if you have the magical talent of rebooting only the screens in your row on a bunch of flights…

      3. MDR Avatar
        MDR

        My guess is that it’s a trial to match passengers to personalized IFE, and more features will roll out soom.

    2. GS Avatar
      GS

      Don’t blame the seatback screens for revealing your ID–I learned recently when there’s a will, there’s a way :)

      I got a LinkedIn request and DM from my seat mate on a CRJ200 a few weeks back. We couldn’t have said anything more than hello on the flight itself … but I’m assuming he learned my name when the flight attendant stopped by to say “thank you Mr. X for being a 1K.”

      1. E175 Respecter Avatar
        E175 Respecter

        Horrifying…

        And of course it’s big-brain LinkedIn behavior.

    3. Brad (not Bradley!) Avatar
      Brad (not Bradley!)

      I’m ambivalent about being addressed by name, frequent fliers probably don’t care, but those who don’t fly often might think this is cool and it might give them a little affinity for the gesture.

      That said, my legal name is Bradley which is how the UA app and screens address me along with the occasional gate agent who is thanking fliers for their loyalty. The only other person who addressed me that way was my Mother and only when I was in trouble, so not my preferred name choice.

      I submitted a comment to UA a few weeks ago advising them of this and that they really ought to implement a “nickname” or “wants to be called” field so we can tell them how we want to be addressed. I did and managed programming a long time ago, this is not a hard update for the app.

  5. emac Avatar
    emac

    Every time I see an AA flight on FR24 I think “oh that plane’s dark and those people are very bored…” (endless rows of Y with no screens). And indeed I flew PHL-LAX on one of those dark A321neos a couple years ago and it stunk. I used to be who-cares about in-seat video, now I appreciate it. The name on the TV is a nice touch.

    1. Jason Avatar
      Jason

      nope – usually reading a book or listening to a podcast. Or using the internet. Believe it or not, it is possible to entertain oneself.

    2. FrequentWanderer Avatar
      FrequentWanderer

      I like very dark planes with no screens on redeyes- much easier to sleep. (and it really is disorienting and blinding to wake up at o’dark whenever and see all the lights reflecting in the dark and off the ceiling)
      On the westbound or other day time flights, I DO prefer a big, bright screen.

      So AA on the redeye, UA for the daylight flight, and I’m not pretty enough to fly DL.

  6. Melly Avatar
    Melly

    loads have been pretty empty for me on AA for several months…but maybe no one wants to come to Memphis.

    1. 1990 Avatar
      1990

      Nashville gettin’ all the action… maybe time for a revisit to Beale Street…

  7. Chris_travels Avatar
    Chris_travels

    Kudos to UA for their newest APP, interiors and (except for the reboots) IFE, highly preferable to the crotchety old directv screens with ridiculous armrest controls plaguing most legacy CO 737s. Even new AA aircraft can’t compete and DL aircraft are a distant second in comfort and tech.

    IAH has a weird cobbled-together feeling but is far, far superior to both EWR and IAD layouts and is slowly getting a bit better. Thankfully they’ve torn out the weird old “space hab” concourses in Terminal B and are updating it to blend with the newly upgraded and attached Terminal C gates.

  8. Eric in ICT Avatar
    Eric in ICT

    Always love these trip reports, Brett. Had a similar onboard experience with United BUR-ICT via DEN yesterday. Max8 and 737-800 with the UnitedNext interiors, plenty of bin space, younger and very friendly crews and communicative pilots. Plenty of bin space, fairly efficient boarding, and of course the United app never disappoints. I also liked being greeted by name on the seat (even back of the bus). Only issue is I can never get my AirPods to connect to their IFE system (could be user error). Much better than my outbound experience with AA earlier in the week.

    On the topic of United hubs and updates, my connection in DEN was in the A gates, which United now seems to have a majority of — still, more traffic and connections are in B. The recently renovated A gates (lower gate numbers starting in the teens) are super nice with lots of natural light, spacious restrooms, interesting restaurant options and even an outdoor patio at the end of the concourse. A WAY better experience than B in DEN (feels a lot like the updated portions of the Southwest operation in C).

    1. Michael Avatar
      Michael

      You really don’t understand why someone thought it was a good idea to send ICE agents to help with TSA during the shutdown? You don’t understand because it was a Republican that initiated it. If it were Biden or Harris or another democrat that came up with the plan you would have waxed poetic about the brilliance of it all. Just sayin’

      1. Chris Avatar
        Chris

        Odd comment since “Eric in ICT” didn’t mention ICE but since you brought it up. I’m not the poster but I think it had more to do with “why are we paying ICE agents and not TSA agents?” when ICE agents probably get paid a lot more than TSA agents. Also, given ICE’s recent missteps and public perception, I don’t think people were thrilled about having armed federal agents in camo wandering the halls. Personally, I would have supported the national guard backfilling or another agency since they seem to have more trigger discipline.

      2. Brett Avatar

        Michael – Assuming this was directed at me and not Eric in ICT. I don’t understand why some people have to turn this into some stupid left vs right fight. The ICE agents did not add value. They did very little if anything, and they didn’t speed things up. (It was the president deciding to pay the TSA agents that sped things up. That came from the very same person who deployed ICE, but you don’t see me complaining about that good idea just because of who proposed it.) Try judging things on their merits instead of who proposed them.

    2. Brad Avatar
      Brad

      Eric,

      UA has been updating B as well. I was at B12 in the far west end of B today for a flight and that new extension matches the UA updates in A. The older parts of B don’t have as high of ceilings but the signs and gates are all refreshed and work well.

      UA has most of A west (west of the train) and F9 has much of the east. As I recall, Jet Blue has a gate or two in A just west of the train in the really old style gate setup. The internationals also run out of A West so Air France, British, Lufthansa and so on, as that is where the secure gates are that can either run domestic flights or be converted to shuttle passengers securely to customs.

      For the past 6-8 months, UA has been running narrowbodies, mostly Arbii out of B West, Boeing out of B East and a little bit of a mix out of A with the widebodies just sprinkled in wherever – just the other night they had the 789 DEN-MUC flight out of B36 which I’ve never seen depart from B before.

      DEN has gotten a LOT of the new A321s and I’ve had far more flights in the past 6 months on Arbii then Boeings.

  9. Michael B Avatar
    Michael B

    Weight and Balance is a very regulated process. Only the actual ramp lead or crew chief who supervised the loading can sign off on the weight and balance. It’s usually only is a problem on delayed flights when one crew loads and a different crew does the push-out. Locating the original crew chief can take time. There are very few people who can override the computer and it is only done as a last resort and after verifying the load through the bag scan data. Why it happened on your on-time flight was probably due to input error where the lead thought it went through- just my guess.

    1. Brett Avatar

      Michael B – Yeah, the pilots said something about a snafu somewhere. Not sure if it was an input error as you suggest or something else, but it was definitely not the norm. And throw the bad luck on top of it that it was a shift change. In the end, the delay didn’t really matter and the pilots keeping us updated made all the difference.

  10. GS in PDX Avatar
    GS in PDX

    Brett,
    Had a very interesting weight & balance situation on WN out of Las Vegas a few years back, on a flight to Kauai. Flight was nearly full (~95%) on a new MAX8. Apparently the ground crew loaded us too full, we ended up taking off, and the flight crew was forced to compensate in the air and get our weight down. This resulted in us flying a course to the NW, towards SJC, turning directly W just South of SJC, and then using a very ‘low and slow’ flight altitude & attitude until we got out over the Pacific Ocean. At that point, we had apparently lost enough weight that we could accelerate and climb up to our cruising altitude for the rest of the flight. Not sure how much time we lost to this operation, but would guess it was ~30 minutes.

    I have flown many, many times in my life (my dad is a retired CO captain, and I am an instrument rated pilot), and I have never, ever experienced this before. Very strange to go through this.

    1. Brett Avatar

      GS – That sounds remarkably dangerous if it was significantly overloaded. But my guess is that flying toward the NW had nothing to do with weight and balance. That’s a normal track that I’ve seen used, depending upon the winds.

  11. southbay flier Avatar
    southbay flier

    Interesting choice to take a connection. I heard there is an airline that has multiple flights from Atlanta to LAX every day.

    1. Brett Avatar

      southbay – Yeah, but Eastern went out of business, so there weren’t any options…. I kid, of course. But I wasn’t willing to pay the Delta premium. Delta wanted about $700 for the one way or around 60,000 SkyMiles. I was more than happy to pay the 15,000 miles on United instead.

      1. JT8D Avatar
        JT8D

        AirTran too, back in the day (originally flown on their behalf by Ryan International A320s)

      2. southbay flier Avatar
        southbay flier

        That does explain how Delta is profitable in that people are willing to pay that much for a one way ticket. I’ve been through Hartsfield many times, but it is never my destination. So, Delta’s prices are very close to those of their competitors.

  12. GKK Avatar
    GKK

    It appears the airport-assigned ICE agents did not take very long to learn from their TSA (Thousands Standing Around) counterparts.

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