It’s Time to Appreciate The New Southwest


Today on The Air Show podcast, we released an interview with Southwest COO Andrew Watterson and CFO Tom Doxey. You should listen to that, but I decided to write a companion piece to give some more context about what Southwest has just pulled off.

January 27 was a big day in the history of Southwest Airlines. It was the first day of assigned seating, and that meant Extra Legroom seating had arrived as well. It was also the culmination of a remarkable 18 months filled with massive change on a scale that most of us can’t even fathom. Southwest executed its plan flawlessly, and Chief Operating Officer Andrew Watterson and the whole airline deserve enormous credit.

When I sat in a conference room on Southwest’s campus back in September 2024, I was far from convinced. That day, Southwest had its investor presentation where it rolled out its plan called “Southwest. Even Better.” We didn’t know at the time that this was a partial plan with changes ahead, but even this seemed ambitious to me. As I said when I wrote about the event:

The plan itself seems like it can work, but execution is the hard part. If it does go as planned, this will return Southwest to a respectable level of financial performance by 2027.

This, I thought, was a lot to put on one person’s shoulders. After all, Andrew Watterson is Chief Operating Officer, but he is also in charge of the commercial side of the business. I like Andrew a lot, but I wasn’t sure anyone could overcome the inertia of Southwest doing Southwest things and actually make such big change happen.

It turns out I was wrong. Southwest made this happen and a whole lot more. Further, with Southwest announcing earnings last week — but more importantly providing guidance — it’s going to return to a respectable level of financial performance in 2026, even earlier than predicted, and it has maintained a solid operation in the process.

That 2024 plan didn’t include the addition of checked bag fees or changing the boarding process, so it got even more complex from an execution standpoint. Just think about some of the things that Southwest has changed since that time:

  • began flying redeyes
  • started charging for first and second checked bags
  • switched from open seating to assigned seating
  • introduced basic economy and started charging for various seat assignments
  • installed and started selling Extra Legroom seating
  • changed the boarding process from the position numbers on poles to groups
  • finally started interlining with other airlines and now have six up and running (China Airlines, Condor, EVA, Icelandair, Philippine, and Turkish)
  • joined IATA
  • began selling through online travel agents (Google, Expedia, etc)
  • replaced its ops system
  • reduced aircraft turn times

Regardless of how you feel about each initiative, these all required big effort. Some required substantial tech work, both back-end and front-end. Otherwise required physical reconfiguration of aircraft. Still others meant employee change and education being required. That doesn’t even include the customer education required for such a change.

Meanwhile, the bar for Southwest to succeed was pretty low. It had failed to make so many changes in past years. Remember when it was going to partner with Volaris and WestJet? Remember how long it took to finally get a new reservation system? This was not an airline that was to be believed. But since that 2024 meeting, Southwest hit every target. That is downright impressive.

What pushes this even further into the realm of “extraordinary” is that this was done while Andrew and his team were fixing Southwest’s operation. We all remember that miserable meltdown after Winter Storm Elliott in 2022. This was a broken airline operationally. Now, it just got first place in the Wall Street Journal’s airline rankings which are mostly based on operational metrics.

According to Anuvu data, Southwest finished third in on-time performance for the full year with 77.82 percent of flights arriving within 14 minutes of schedule. That was just behind Hawaiian and Delta. It was also one of only three airlines that canceled less than one percent of flights.

They say this kind of work is like doing open-heart surgery on a patient who is awake. It’s not easy. But sure enough, Southwest pulled it off. That would be impressive for any airline, but for an airline that has failed to deliver so much in the past like Southwest? It’s a near-miracle.

With this work done, Southwest can now bask in the glow of a vastly-improved financial outlook. You may remember when JP Morgan airline analyst Jamie Baker said “We’d characterize Southwest’s 4Q [2025] guide as Very Aggressive and Seemingly Unobtainable.” That turned out to be true, but only because of the government shutdown. In fact, Southwest positively surprised analysts with its revised downward guidance not being as big as expected. But it’s 2026 that got Wall St so excited that the stock spiked nearly 20 percent.

In 2026, Southwest now expects earnings per share of at least $4. Unit revenue is going to be up at least 9.5 percent in Q1 year-over-year, so again, that’s another part of Andrew’s team over in Revenue Management that’s doing big things. I keep saying “at least,” because Southwest hasn’t figured out the full benefit of seating charges yet since it just rolled out. Upward revisions are likely, so margins in the neighborhood of the Deltas and Uniteds of the world are easily in the realm of possibility.

There was no real question that this would be a big financial victory in the near-term. The question now is whether this can build Southwest for long-term success even though it’s far more similar to other airlines than it’s ever been. And that is where we focused our discussion on The Air Show. Have a listen and hear what Andrew and Tom had to say, but if we can look at this entire project from afar, it’s hard not to appreciate what the airline has been able to do.

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27 responses to “It’s Time to Appreciate The New Southwest”

  1. Emil D Avatar
    Emil D

    I flew them last week; first time in over 10 years. I remember how the FA’s were happy, passenger focused and all around it was a very good flight. This past trip had surly GA’s, FA’s who had a somewhat different attitude (think Delta’s newer FA’s who don’t really know how to be genuinely friendly). The seats and legroom was good (except when I was asked twice to switch seats, don’t people understand what a reserved seat is?) and the flight deck was very informative. Yes, I understand that there are some kinks that have to be worked out, namely the first few bins reserved for the flight crew. Come on, they should have known about that two years ago. Would I fly them again? Probably. Delta is no longer the airline that it used to be, AA is the same so why not? Fix some of the attitudes and the front bins and you have a great operation.

  2. JT8D Avatar
    JT8D

    What I will always wonder is what Southwest could have been had the Gary Kelly management team been as imaginative and dynamic as Lamar Muse and Herb Kelleher.

    During that time, Southwest operated as kind of shrine to the past. It venerated the Muse/Kelleher model, rather than being inspired by it.

    Southwest spent a couple of hidebound decades. What a waste.

    1. See_Bee Avatar
      See_Bee

      Amen. Gary was a corporate hype man/vibes guy, not an innovator. WN’s culture handicapped itself for over a decade and the industry passed them by

      IMO those that crowed about Elliott were hanging on to nostalgia and ignoring the shift in what consumers wants and what alternatives they have. The old talking point that charging bag fees would cost WN more in pax rev than they would gain in fees was a joke – consumers don’t have another option!

  3. NedsKid Avatar
    NedsKid

    When will everyone stop giving WN so much credit or looking on in complete awe each time they do something other airlines have done for decades? Yeah, I realize every project outlined in this post was huge for WN, and seemingly took far more effort and a longer time than another airline would have executed, but it seems more like giving an atta-boy for the slow kid. Good for you, gold star champ!

    The assigned seats is a good thing – I just bought a WN ticket when I wouldn’t have before… because I know what I’m going to get for what I’m paying. A 45 minute connections to a 4 hour second leg… no way I’d have done that without assigned seating after all I got for a Business Select ticked on a previous experience and a delayed inbound yielded me a middle seat for 3 hours (and no refund of the extra fee).

    1. Brett Avatar

      I think you’re misunderstanding the point of this post. This has nothing to do with strategy and catching up to what other airlines have done. This is about doing the actual implentation work in a short period of time and nothing more. It isn’t about what happened before, and how slow the airline has been.

  4. See_Bee Avatar
    See_Bee

    It feels like almost everyone has lambasted Elliott for trying to shake things up at WN… but can we finally admit that they were right?

  5. Angry Bob Crandall Avatar
    Angry Bob Crandall

    1. The Core Model Is Broken
    Traditional airlines were built on:
    Hub-and-spoke density
    Yield management dependent on business travel
    Fuel as a manageable variable cost
    Labor stability
    OEM-controlled aircraft economics

    Those pillars are now unstable:
    Business travel has permanently shifted (hybrid, fewer segments)
    Fuel volatility is structural, not cyclical
    Labor costs are higher and less predictable
    Aircraft delivery timelines constrain growth
    Price transparency compresses margins
    Result: Airlines carry balance-sheet risk without pricing power.

    2. Airlines Must Become Platforms, Not Carriers
    The future airline is not primarily a seat seller.
    Winning models treat the aircraft as a customer acquisition channel, monetizing across a broader value stack:
    Ancillary services (dynamic, personalized, margin-rich)
    Subscriptions and bundles (predictable revenue)
    Loyalty ecosystems (financial instruments, not perks)
    Cargo + data monetization
    Partnerships (hospitality, fintech, insurance, carbon markets)
    Seats become the loss leader.

    3. Cost Structures Must Be Radically Simplified
    The most resilient operators are moving toward:
    Fleet simplification (fewer aircraft types)
    Point-to-point networks over complex hubs
    Outsourced or flexible labor where regulation allows
    AI-driven scheduling, maintenance, and demand forecasting
    Faster aircraft turn times as a core KPI
    Efficiency is no longer about scale—it’s about operational optionality.

    4. Data and AI Are the New Competitive Moat
    The next generation airline is:
    Predictive, not reactive
    Personalized, not segmented
    Dynamic, not schedule-bound

    AI will increasingly drive:
    Fare construction
    Network design
    Crew planning
    Maintenance cycles
    Disruption recovery
    Ancillary conversion
    Airlines that don’t own their data stack will be commoditized by those that do.

    6. The Direction of Travel (No Pun Intended)
    The industry is bifurcating into:
    Ultra-efficient transport utilities (cost leadership)
    High-experience, high-margin platforms (value leadership)
    The middle—bloated cost structures with undifferentiated service—will continue to erode.

    Bottom Line
    Airlines that survive the next decade will:
    Think like fintech + logistics + hospitality companies
    Design for volatility, not stability
    Optimize lifetime customer value, not load factor
    Treat aircraft as nodes in a revenue network, not the business itself

    1. E175 Respecter Avatar
      E175 Respecter

      Thank you for this wise and necessary contribution, ChatGPT.

      1. CraigTPA Avatar
        CraigTPA

        I was going to sound it sounded more like something a committee from Accenture would write, but yeah, AI is just an automated Accenture working group, so that tracks.

        WTF is “nodes in a revenue network”, just for an example?

  6. AP Taurianen Avatar
    AP Taurianen

    Maybe CF could devote a article on airline business models.

    A. Legacy Airlines (Structural Fragility)
    Why margins break: fixed labor + pension obligations, multi-fleet complexity, yield dependence on corporate travel, hub congestion amplifies disruption cost, limited ancillary monetization relative to cost base

    Reality: Legacy airlines are financially engineered for stability in a world defined by volatility.

    B. LCC / ULCC (Cost-Resilient, Revenue-Fragile)
    Why they survive shocks: Lowest Casm, simple fleets, point-to-point routing, rapid capacity adjustments
    Why margins cap out: no pricing power, high exposure to consumer cyclicality, limited brand leverage, regulatory vulnerability on fees

    Reality: Excellent downside protection, limited upside creation.

    C. Hybrid Airlines (The Margin Sweet Spot)
    Structural advantages: sophisticated ancillary yield engines, bundles, fare families, subscriptions, selective network complexity
    Reality: Best risk-adjusted margin durability in the industry today.

  7. Rob Avatar
    Rob

    It’s still an issue if you want to fly anywhere smaller than a small city, they don’t have any regional jets flying to smaller places I need to get to sometimes. I’ll stick with the large larger Airlines (in my case of Alaska Airlines or American Airlines oneworld due to my base in the Pacific Northwest) because I can get just about anywhere in the USA, Canada or Mexico easily – and I can get free first class upgrades and I have access to lounges too. Also, their code sharing with these new international airlines is not the same thing as belonging to an airline alliance for seamless travel anywhere in the world.

  8. Dave from DC Avatar
    Dave from DC

    This year will be the first since the late 1970’s that I have not flown on Southwest.

    I’m going to avoid them this year. I will reconsider in 2027. That will be hard for me because Austin is one of my primary destinations.

    These changes are the enshittification of Southwest.

    1) We had the popu-luxe package of decent legroom in every seat. Now we get munchkin spacing with a few cost-plus rows with OK legroom. I’m tall (not by much). All the old seats worked for me. I was shocked when, as a test, I sat in a regular economy seat on United for a hop from Austin to Houston. I was in an aisle seat and it was still really cramped.

    2) Boarding worked for me. It was faster than other airlines. I was always able to get a good enough seat (aisle, maybe nobody in the middle) without much trouble. I didn’t have to be in the first 3-6 rows. Now SW has the same dumb system that other airlines use, made worse by the splitting of boarding into window-middle-aisle groupings.

    3) Bin space will get more crowded because of the new charge for baggage. Not having to have my bag at my feet helped with the legroom problem.

    4) The space under the seat is smaller?? Not great for my size 13s.

    I liked SW’s point to point model. Their single plane concept seemed really smart. I’m really bummed by the prospect of having to deal with the new Southwest. I loved the way that Lamar Muse and Herb Kelleher kicked out Braniff’s teeth.

    1. See_Bee Avatar
      See_Bee

      The aspects you voice concern over are a reality on every other airline. I can see why you’re frustrated, but what are your alternatives? The options are to either experience those less desirable things on WN metal or on OAL metal – it’s all the same. Why the need to avoid WN?

    2. Bill from DC Avatar
      Bill from DC

      Fellow (freezing) DCite – it’s interesting how opposite our outlook is on the new Southwest. This is the first time in many years that I would consider flying WN for anything besides DCA-MDW (and since that was legacy ATA my expectations have always been quite low).

      Why now? Because of the assigned seating and extra legroom options.

      Look on the bright side, your Southwest lasted at least a decade longer than it should have. Ask any shareholder.

      I welcome Southwest’s transformation into an actual, competitive, “real” airline. I’m guessing there are many more of us than there are angry nostalgists who ostensibly will never fly then again. We just won’t be nearly as vocal.

      Southwest handed (original) Braniff its hat in 1982, over 43 years ago. Time marches on.

      1. Leon from Dallas Avatar
        Leon from Dallas

        I miss Braniff!

        1. Bill from DC Avatar
          Bill from DC

          Take it up with DC Dave, I only know Braniff from the South Park credits!

  9. Jason Avatar
    Jason

    Southwest 2.0.
    Southwest has transitioned into Seat assignments somewhat smoothly with the exception of their Automated Seating assignments on the day of departure.
    Yes there’s a Learning curve for everyone involved. However.
    Southwest needs a Quick IT upgrade to allow it’s Revenue customers and Non Revenue customers the ability to swap seats Digitally within there seating area prior to Boarding the aircraft.
    The internet has been Jammed packed with horror stories of disgruntled loyal customers and Even its own employees about being cramped 3 to a row and being told they CAN NOT switch to another seat while there is ample empty rows all round them in the same Fare class.
    In Your interview they Boost that it’s the way their People treat the customers is what differentiates them from all the other airlines.
    Unfortunately this First week of the roll out in regard to customers and allowing them to move to an open seat in the Same Fare class that doesn’t require a ticket upgrade has elevated their prize Employees to Become the NO police. If this trend doesn’t get fixed soon it’s going push people away from Southwest.
    The 2nd biggest Issue is Over Head baggage placement now that WN is selling ELR seating.
    The first issue is the Foward Crew luggage stowage Bin.
    Some of these aircraft have a Lock on them to prevent anyone else accessing them.
    While it important to keep crew members items safe and secure. Now that they have ELR seating it time to relocate that bin to the aft of the aircraft next to the other crew stowage Bin.
    The WN can add placards in the Bins located over the ELR rows 1-5/6 designated them for this seating section.
    Because aside from the crew taking up the
    Forward over head bin space.
    Again people complaining that have bought ELP seating that they are boarding after Preboarding and A list preferred customers.
    So when the arrive at their seats upfront the Preboarding customer and A list preferred customers that didn’t purchase these seat are still stowing their larger luggage in the first over head bin space vs taking them back to where they are actually sitting forcing the ELR passengers to stow their luggage back over rows 7-9 which is totally diluting the ELR premium experience.
    The staff needs to police and ensure Preboarding passengers are taking their luggage to their rows for storage.
    And regardless of anyone’s Status anyone that’s purchased ELR seating Should be boarding before any A list rewards passengers.

    1. Jason Avatar
      Jason

      The other still ongoing issue is Gate checked luggage. Since WN added baggage fees gate checked luggage has become the new Jetway Jesus problem.
      Those that scammed the system of buying cheap and just ask for preboarding to get the best seats have now Shifted with a new Spin on beating the WN system.
      The new trend is Buy Basic let WN automatically assigned a seat but to insure you don’t get forced to check you carryon they are now still asking for preboarding. While they may not be able to snag a better seat they can just simply ask to preboard and Snag the sought-after overhead bin space from those who paid a premium for a better experience.
      The Only Way to fix this problem although it might lose some checked baggage revenue is to CHANGE the Basic Fare baggage allowance.
      The basic Fare allowance need to be One Free checked Bag. And One Small Personal carry on Item Only.
      This would kills two birds with one stone and enhance the a third.
      #1. it would dilute the Scam to continue to ask for preboarding to grab over head bin space.
      #2. With Basic getting a Free checked Bag it would eliminate the time consuming needs to check 20 plus last minute Gate checked bags and allow the CSA gate agents more flexibility to work with passengers last minute seating changes.
      Vs Being Bag Cops.
      #3 it would most likely speed up the last 3 boarding groups since they wouldn’t have anything other than a small personal item to find stowage space. Faster turns equal more aircraft flexibility resulting it lower cost and more profits.

  10. Jason Avatar
    Jason

    After listening to the Airshow one key thing stands out. Andrew Watterson says with seat assignments now makes WN more attractive to Long Haul domestic markets than before as it getting ready to redefine its overall network. With Tom Doxey he Knows all too well Breezes Strengthens and weaknesses. So this has me thinking since WN successfully finished redeveloping its self into a Hybrid Hub connecting airline. Now WN might start nipping off less than daily key point to point traffic that’s been Breezes Bread and butter. With Idle aircraft time on Tuesday,Wednesday and Saturday plus the introduction of Red eyes WN has the potential ability to add a plethora of key points to point long haul markets between popular destinations for example like LAX-PVD/RDU/BDL/CMH/SDF/PIT that can’t support daily service but would definitely support twice weekly service and offer other connecting options.

  11. John Avatar
    John

    I am a big SW fan and rooting for them to succeed. But I wonder what will happen the next time we end up in a recession. I worry the industry is putting all their eggs in one basket with their fixation on premium customers.

    1. Bill from DC Avatar
      Bill from DC

      They had to focus on premium because it was brand new to them.

      They’ll end up in the same place as the Big 3, finally offering something for everybody; a basic product priced competitively with ULCCs, a regular product with a seating assignment and a premium product with extra legroom.

      1. SandyCreek Avatar
        SandyCreek

        There is one place the big 3’s already are at (to varying degrees) that WN is a lot less on track to getting, and that’s anywhere beyond a 737 max’s reach. Not that I don’t think the TATL market isn’t saturated enough or that there’s a long haul market other than TATL that southwest should start by, but I imagine it’ll be a blocker to winning the loyalty for those who have long-distance travel needs.

    2. See_Bee Avatar
      See_Bee

      There’s debate that’s already happening right now with the “K shaped economy”, so actually smart to pivot to premium

  12. Jason2 Avatar
    Jason2

    Hot take – I get the desire to monetize/loyal-tize boarding groups, but I think they missed an operational opportunity to keep the boarding positions. They could have manipulated the exact order passengers board by seat assignments & travel parties to optimize the boarding process.

  13. Lon Lee Avatar
    Lon Lee

    Southwest was the only airline that did not treat their passengers like the enemy.. I flew them everywhere, including to Hawaii from LA. Now there are plenty of choices to be treated like crap. So I am a long-gone SWA customer.

  14. David R. Miller Avatar

    Southwest has now become Southworst -or if more appropiately named – Greedwest. Air fares are much higher with few bargain days offered and continue to get higher each month. Fewer flights are now offered each day. Finding overhead bin close to your seat will be a problem, causing the “new, more time consuming” boarding proceedure to be even more time consuming. The outrageously expensive extra legroom seating has been made with more legroom – 3 inches – at the expense of the remaining seats in the aircraft losing 1 inch of legroom from the already cramped seating arrangement. Going from the promise of always getting 2 checked bags free to now charging for bags is an insult from the original great model. The Rapid Rewards credit cards are now outrageously priced with fewer perks – Priority credit cards going from $149 to $229/year is nothing more than gouging -while losing the 4 seating upgrades and the $75 comp for purchases. Buying the “basic” fare gets you an assigned seat, guaranteed to be a middle seat on most flights and flight credits only good for cancelled flights for 6 months, meaning if you do not rebook and fly within the 6 month window of when you originally purchased a ticket you will now LOSE the money you paid. This money used to be good for future flights forever. Anyone praising these “changes” is a fool. Greedwest will lose thousands of its core of faithful flyers – they have lost me, I have flown Southwest for over 40 years, and other faithful customers who abhore these changes as they will fly less often and will be flying on other airlines when they do fly in the future. So quit with the company line “praising” these changes – there is nothing to praise. Greedwest will become Brokewest and is now swirling the toilet. Stupid is as stupid does.

  15. Gene Avatar
    Gene

    As a person who Buys over 250 round trips a year on SWA for my small business operation, and have been flying enough personally to earn a companion ticket each year, I hate the change. The companion fare has become almost worthless, costs have gone up substantially and the culture is already going bad. The new lack of flexibility is devastating. We are changing airlines as fast as possible

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