Cincinnati and the Ghosts of Comair


If Memphis was Northwest’s way of getting geographically beyond its core hubs, Cincinnati did the same thing for Delta but in reverse. Delta was already strong in the south with the impenetrable Atlanta hub, but Cincinnati gave the airline a place further north. After the Northwest merger gave Delta the Minneapolis/St Paul and Detroit hubs, Delta’s second-largest hub in Cincinnati was doomed. It had farther to fall than most.

For some reason, I find Cincinnati’s entire terminal plan to be just about the most confusing thing around. I believe the original Terminal A was knocked down at some point, but best I can tell, by the time the 1980s came around, there were three separate terminals called B, C, and D.

Delta built up its hub there largely on the back of regional carrier Comair which became a key partner. Comair was also the first operator of the CRJ regional jet, and it needed a terminal to support its growth. Terminals B and C were renamed Terminals 1 and 2. Those were for all the other airlines. Then Terminal D was demolished and a new Terminal 3 was built for Delta and Comair on top of it.

Terminal 3 was huge. It was connected by underground walkway to new concourses A and B. Then a new concourse C was built to the west that required a shuttle that was the home of the regional jets. In 2005, the airport had over 600 daily departures and more than 16 million departing seats. Almost all of those were flying for Delta. But then Delta filed for bankruptcy, and the hub began to fall apart.

In 2006, there were fewer than 450 daily departures, and Terminal 1 was closed. By 2008, traffic had dropped enough that Concourse C was shuttered. And in 2010, Delta closed Concourse A and moved it entire operation into Concourse B alone. In 2012, the airport made the wise move to close Terminal 2 and move all those airlines into the abandoned Concourse A in Terminal 3. By the time 2014 rolled around, the airport had just over 130 daily departures with a mere 3.5 million departing seats. That is absolutely heartbreaking for any airport to endure.

With too much closed infrastructure sitting around, it was time to clean things up.

In 2016, Concourse C was razed, and you wouldn’t know it ever existed. The same fate was in store for Terminals 1 and 2 in 2017. The only remaining terminal and its two remaining concourses were renovated, and a new rental car center was buillt on top of where the old terminals used to exist.

The last few years post-pandemic have seen Cincinnati fall into a roughly 125 daily flight pattern with over 5 million annual departing seats. It is a shell of its former existence, but it’s one that now entirely serves the local market. No airport has fallen harder than this one, and I can’t imagine it has been an easy road for anyone in the region.

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10 responses to “Cincinnati and the Ghosts of Comair”

  1. Matt D Avatar
    Matt D

    The MEM hub goes back to the pre Republic days when Southern had a hub there.

    Others were when airlines were building up anywhere and everywhere-where market share mattered more than profitability. Size for the sake of size. You are pretty well versed on how that usually turns out. But I guess history is repeating at ORD, where hubris appears to be what’s behind the thought process at United, not rational thought.

    Other hubs that have come and gone include America West at nearby CMH. TWA took a swing at ATL (and quickly left with its tail between its legs), American tried-and failed-twice with SJC via acquisitions. Continental had a hub for about five minutes at GSO.

    United and Delta can’t seem to make up their mind with LAX. Both have had on and off huge ops there. Then they tore it down. Then tried rebuilding. Again, short term circumstances seem to be the driving force in making long term decisions.

    Speaking of Delta, so how about that decent sized hub at DFW for quite awhile before getting chAAsed off?

    COS had Western Pacific. I think it was a good idea, just about 20 years ahead of its time. No one that I’m aware of has since bothered coming back there. I loved that airline.

    RNO of course had Reno Air.

    But my favorite from the absurdity point of view had to be Access Air. I don’t know if you ever heard of them, but look them up if you haven’t. See if you can top their choice of dual hubs-one at DSM and the other at CID.

    Good stuff. You know if I see any mention of anything historical, Imma gonna jump in.

    1. Angry Bob Crandall Avatar
      Angry Bob Crandall

      Wasn’t SJC a hub for QQ when AA acquired them?

    2. JT8D Avatar
      JT8D

      I have a recollection of flying nonstop CVG-ANC one time. That hub was really a big deal at its height, but it was a bit like PIT – way oversized relative to the O&D market. Once DTW was in the Delta system CVG’s future was foreordained.

      But you want to go deep? Old freight hubs. Emery (then, briefly, UPS once UPS bought the remains of Emery) at Dayton, Airborne at Wilmington (a ghost still exists in the operation Amazon still apparently has there, notwithstanding their CVG operation down the road), DHL at CVG (still there), Purolator at CMH then Indy, CF Air Freight at Indy (consolidated into Dayton when they bought Emery). Bax Global at Toledo. The USPS had a hub at Indy that was overseen by Emery though I think largely flown by outfits like Ryan.

      Kitty Hawk/American International had a hub at Fort Wayne(?) and/or maybe Terre Haute? I think it moved at one time.

      Lots of crummy third tier airlines flying old 727s, DC-9s, DC-8s, etc. ATI is a survivor of that era, and so is ABX Air. So is Kalitta.

      Connie Kalitta converted L1011s into freighters at Oscoda – also a DC-8-62 into a combi. As I recall, Kitty Hawk was dumb enough to buy him out. I think he later bought most of it back at pennies on the dollar.

  2. Uncle Procter Avatar
    Uncle Procter

    I was a regular CVG flyer 2004-2010.

    Terminal 1 was a fascinating ghost town at the end with only 2 gates occupied by US Airways CRJs to PHL and CLT. There were remants of Northwest/KLM branding from before NW joined Skyteam and moved to T3 and a shuttered second floor with US Air branding dating back to their 80s logo.

    Terminal 2 was a brutal dark design with low slung windows and only kiosks for concessions. It was occupied by United and American at the end – mainly RJs with an occassional 737 to ORD.

    T3 Concourse C felt like a Greyhound bus station. By the time I was flying there, the few widebodies were all Delta 763s and a lone AF 343. I understand the cargo apron allows for some more interesting spotting these days.

  3. JT8D Avatar
    JT8D

    CVG’s become a large cargo hub, of course, so it’s not all bad news, though it’s unclear how committed Amazon is to the hub. If Google is to be believed, it was designed for 200 daily flights but is only at about 50-60.

    It’s also unclear whether the Amazon system is best served by a single gigantic hub, given Amazon’s decision to split its inventory/delivery systems into regions. The cheapest way for Amazon to serve its customers is via clever inventory placement plus ground delivery. Every time Amazon delivers something by air, it’s an opportunity for it to, next time, figure out how to do it by ground (not always possible – good luck delivering to Hawaii from California by truck). To the extent they get better at that, air cargo demand goes down as a proportion of total deliveries. So far as I can tell, number of total Amazon deliveries keeps going up, but air network activity seems to have levelled off.

    Presumably this is why they’ve been seeking third party air cargo business (as opposed to third party seller business that already dominates the Amazon marketplace).

  4. Brevardflyer Avatar
    Brevardflyer

    I flew from BWI to CVG on DL at the height of that hub. Because I’d be in Cincinnati for two weeks to attend a class I checked a bag. As an indication of how little O&D traffic there was, mine was the only luggage put on the carousel at baggage claim.

  5. Eric A Avatar
    Eric A

    I was MEM based a few times during my red tail days and there were ghosts of SO all over the place. Several jetbridge controls were placard ed with the ‘wigley worms” and ramp level hallways and offices were in the blue and white.

    As a kiddo avgeek the early to.mid 80s were peak excitement. A retired marketing manager told me CVG, SDF & CMH were neck & neck. KY threw tax incentives so it tilted to CVG & SDF. The final shipping point was that CVG had bonds issued and a shovel ready building plan that SDF did not. Coupled with a pre-existing operations footprint in the area with a reservation center and key corporate contracts, CVG won the title.

    My nomination for the craziest insta hub project is Piedmont in Dayton. To go from a station that they have never served too a 100 something plus departure Hub complete with crew base and maintenance facility kind of Bonkers.

  6. See_Bee Avatar
    See_Bee

    DL’s CVG-CDG flight is still going strong (for now)! Cargo demand keeps it flying beyond seasonal tourism to EU

  7. Mike (dontflymuch) Avatar
    Mike (dontflymuch)

    Brett Ive thoroughly enjoyed this series! Its so fascinating how quickly the nature of flying changed in 20 years. I think theres a few more we still get, certainly MKE and the two Missouri airports (although MCI has been written about alot) and maybe RDU if you consider that the Midwest enough?

    I’d also love something at some point on which unlikely airports thrived when others didnt, like Detroit and Nashville

  8. Eric R Avatar
    Eric R

    I know this is a CVG thread, but there was a great YouTube video on STL’s new terminal construction project.

    https://youtu.be/MHJHOzPXdfc?si=PUgOYeb1FQ0Oor5f

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