The LAX Terminal Shuffle Begins Again as Terminal 5 Prepares to Shut Down


If you happen to be traveling to or from Los Angeles (LAX) on American, JetBlue or Spirit in the near future, get ready for something different. LAX will be shutting down Terminal 5 to knock it down and rebuild the thing, and that means temporary relocations are required. The fact that LAX can actually shut down an entire terminal and absorb the capacity is pretty remarkable in its own right. Let’s talk about how this is going to happen.

When the jet age central terminal area at LAX opened in the early 1960s, there were six terminals. Here’s a view looking toward the west:

TWA’s Terminal 3 and American’s Terminal 4 were the first to open in 1961. In 1962, the International Terminal 2 opened as did United’s Terminal 7 and Concourse 8 as well as Western’s Terminal 5. Terminal 6 opened in 1963 and served several airlines including Continental and PSA. All of these were built as satellite buildings with underground walkways from the ticketing areas.

Every single one of these terminals has undergone some sort of transformation since that time.

  • Terminal 2 was razed when the Bradley Terminal opened for the 1984 Olympics, and it was then rebuilt for Air Canada, Hawaiian, Northwest, and Pan Am (probably others I’m forgetting)
  • Terminal 3 was prettied up during the brief life of Virgin America, but it was finally crushed during the pandemic when Delta rebuilt it
  • Terminal 4 is just finishing up a complete rebuild that was done in phases
  • Terminal 5 was rebuilt in phases in the mid-1980s, opening up in its current form in 1988
  • Terminal 6 just finished a big project to improve the terminal, but the original still exists in there somewhere
  • Terminal 7 and 8 have been expanded and built upon many times, but the original form still exists inside

This doesn’t even include the construction of Terminal 1 and the Tom Bradley Terminal in time for the 1984 Olympics. In fact, it was the opening of Bradley that enabled the airport to raze Terminal 2 and start over. But even then, I recall a temporary bubble building being used to process international travelers during the transition.

For an airport the size of LAX, it is nearly impossible to just completely shut down a terminal. There just isn’t enough slack in the system. But every so often, something along the lines of that new Bradley terminal opening creates a pocket of excess capacity. And that’s exactly what’s happening right now, along with some other helpful trends.

Today, the three airlines in Terminal 5 start moving out, and they’ll be done in a week. The terminal will be knocked down completely during November and rebuilt from the ground up by 2028. How are they managing this feat?

1) Southwest Welcomes JetBlue

First, JetBlue will move its operation from Terminal 5 to Terminal 1 which has been the home of Southwest and Southwest alone for several years.

Terminal 1 was originally built for PSA in time for the 1984 Olympics, and when USAir bought the airline, it moved in. Both America West and Southwest also made themselves at home there. When America West and US Airways eventually ended up as part of American, they obviously moved out. Southwest had big thoughts, even having plans ready for a Concourse 0 that would give it more gates and international capability. That has now been shelved indefinitely, and Southwest hasn’t seemed too interested in growing LAX. It can’t even fill its 13 existing gates.

Southwest LAX Departures by Month

Data via Cirium

Even looking at next July when there is a slight uptick, Southwest will operate about 6 departures per gate per day. That is not much. At the same time, JetBlue has abandoned its focus city at LAX, so it has far fewer departures than it used to have.

JetBlue LAX Departures by Month

Data via Cirium

Just a couple years ago, JetBlue had about 38 daily departures. Next July it’s at 25 as of now, and that may be overly generous. It technically operates off of five gates today in Terminal 5, but it can fit most of its schedule on three of the 13 gates in Terminal 1 with some overflow. Problem solved.

2) MSC South Welcomes Spirit

Today when the airlines start leaving Terminal 5, the new Midfield Satellite Concourse opens its eight new gates. The MSC sits west of the Bradley Terminal and is the home of several international carriers including Air France/KLM. But these southern eight gates, which I took a photo of when flying in this summer, are built for narrowbody aircraft.

Spirit will shift to Terminal 2 just for check-in and baggage. The flights themselves will operate out there at the MSC South.

It certainly helps that Spirit has been struggling mightily and shrinking quickly.

Spirit LAX Departures by Month

Data via Cirium

In July of 2024, Spirit had 38 daily departures, about the same as JetBlue. By July 2025 it was just under 20 daily. The January 2026 schedule currently shows just over 15 daily. If Spirit survives, it won’t be big in LA, so it will have to deal with the less convenient passenger experience and spiraling costs… or it’ll have to just walk away.

3) American Gets More Bradley

The last tenant in Terminal 5 today is American which is spread across four different terminals. It has been rebuilding Terminal 4 slowly, and the end of that process is near. It has had five gates in Terminal 5, though it looks like it may only be using four now since there are construction closures. It also has the remote “Eagle’s Nest” for regional flying which requires busing. And it has had some gates in Bradley.

With the T4 project finishing up and the MSC South opening, American will be able to put more flights in Bradley.


Within a week, Terminal 5 will be closed. But why are they bothering? This is a terminal that was built for Western, and it was rebuilt entirely for Western in phases beginning in the mid-1980s. You can see that in one of my old timetables:

When the terminal was finished in 1988, Delta had taken over Western… and the terminal. It became the Oasis, and it was glorious, but it was still a frankensteined mess underneath. Just look at this overhead view where you can still see the original satellite buried in there:

Inside, it’s a complete mess. This picture shows why:

The terminal was built with a weird food concept that saw it go down to a lower level in the middle. The gates on each side sat higher. And many of those gates had just about no room. Considering most of these flights are on jam-packed airplanes with 160 seats or more, it is not uncommon to see this:

The new terminal will still have the same 15 gates that exist today, but it will be far more functional. There will also be a complete upgrade of the underlying systems, plumbing, etc that power the terminal. And there will now be easy connections to both Terminals 4 and 6 above ground from the security checkpoints instead of having to descend into the dark bowels of the basement into narrow tunnels as people do today.

When the new terminal opens in time for the 2028 Olympics, I’ve heard rumblings — but have not had them confirmed by LAX — that American will control 10 gates. That may be a big increase, but I believe that will allow the airport to shut down the Eagle’s Nest for good. Presumably JetBlue will move back if it still exists as an independent entity by then. And Spirit? Well, it’s not likely to exist by then. Come on.

When it’s done, this will be a huge win for travelers at LAX, and in the meantime, it is a very minor inconvenience thanks to some lucky circumstances that made this plan possible.

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41 responses to “The LAX Terminal Shuffle Begins Again as Terminal 5 Prepares to Shut Down”

  1. GM Avatar
    GM

    Latest BOAC meeting, Oct. 16, has a AA lease renewal item that confirmed AA is getting 10 gates in the rebuilt T5 and removes LAX’s responsibility for providing access to the nest. The Sep. 18 meeting had a couple of renders of the new terminal in the 1.4 billion construction approval item.

    1. PlanetAvgeek Avatar
      PlanetAvgeek

      So how many gates will AA have then in total? How does that compare to now?

      And how does that compare to DL?

      I would be pleasantly surprised if AA could rebuild their market share and presence in SoCal again

      1. CraigTPA Avatar
        CraigTPA

        AA’s the smallest of the Network Three in the Southland, but when you add in SNA the difference is smaller than you might think – somewhere around 10-15% smaller than DL, with UA falling inbetween the two.

        None of the N3 will ever compete with Southwest in Greater LA, but that’s just fundamental business model differences – they aren’t interested in the higher-frequency business to SFO, LAX, etc. That’s what codeshares on AS are for, and that gives AA something DL and UA don’t have.

      2. Brett Avatar

        Planet – So I believe Terminal 4 will remain with 15 gates, but it hasn’t had that in quite some time thanks to the rebuild. American had 5 gates in Terminal 5 and there are 8 in the Eagle’s Nest. In Bradley, I don’t believe AA controls any gates, but it uses 4 of them in a rotating manner. It should have more access with T5 being rebuilt. I would assume that when the Eagle’s Nest is gone, American may still have some additional gate capacity in Bradley, but I would expect that it would be about flat in the end.

        Delta has 27 gates in T2/T3, but it also uses some gates in Bradley.

      3. Jeremy Avatar
        Jeremy

        I believe DL and AA will have equivalent capacity at LAX. DL controls all of T2 and T3 which accounts for 27 gates, while AA will control all of T4 and 10 gates in T5 which is 25 gates.

        In addition to the above once you remove Eagle’s Nest, AA has 4 rotating gates at TBIT while DL holds 2 ergo both have 29 gates.

        I have seen a few posts / articles that DL holds only 1 gate at TBIT (may have lost rights to preferential use to 1 TBIT rotating gate) while AA has the ability to gain 1 more rotating gate at TBIT for a total of 5 if it meets certain usage specs post-renovations, but I haven’t seen anything to confirm that. If that is true though, then DL would have 28 gates to AA’s current 29 and potential 30.

        Regardless there will clearly be a big LAX rebuild for AA coming up in a couple years with all of this gate capacity returning given usage stipulations.

        Given the US3 pull identical yields / fares at LAX with no real clear leader, that will likely put pressure on LAX yields unless demand can recover. Remember, LAX’s domestic demand and O&D still lags significantly (~10%) below pre-COVID levels. It’ll be interesting to monitor.

      4. 1990 Avatar
        1990

        Hi PlanetAvgeek, glad to see you’re getting your questions sorta answered over here. OMAAT wasn’t serious enough for your needs. Bah!

    2. Terence Avatar
      Terence

      9 in Eagle’s Nest for 5 (extra) in T5? Any additional gains in TBIT? I recall earlier the thought would be 1-to-1 for demolishing the Nest.

      1. Jeremy Avatar
        Jeremy

        The Eagle’s Nest had capacity restrictions in that AA’s biggest gauge was its regional jets of 76 passengers. The gates at T5 will have no such limitations and will be able to hold an A321neo with 196 passengers. Not to mention Eagle’s Nest has not been fully utilized by AA for almost a decade now, so 9 regional gates for 5 mainline gates IMO is a fair trade on LAX’s part.

        Even with this switch AA should be able to offer substantially more capacity while maintaining its current schedule at Eagle’s Nest if it maximizes utilization of those 5 gates. Not to mention, the transfer and passenger experience would be much better.

  2. Matt D Avatar
    Matt D

    Excellent write up. Has LAX NOT been under some stage of construction for the last twenty years-with at least twenty more to go?

    As an old geezer, I can help you with T2. Just off of my own memory, you got most of them right. Throughout the 1990’s, it was also home to the likes of Air New Zealand, Asiana, Virgin Atlantic, MAC, and I think ATA (they might’ve been next door in 3. Or both. I don’t recall for certain). Alaska also ran at least some of their Mexico flights out of there.

    Its been many, many years since I’ve been to the LAX terminals. So I’m not one to comment on the last quarter century. But at least up to 2000, I always thought that 5 was the nicest of them all. 2 and 4 were also pretty decent.

    3 was wonderfully cheesy and run down. The tacky red carpet from TWA all over the place. It was so dated that it should’ve been preserved as a museum piece.

    Wonder what this will do to the arrival/departure patterns. I’m planning a plane photo shoot in the near future….

    1. SEAN Avatar
      SEAN

      The 1977 Mel Brooks film “High Anxiety” Has numerous shots of LAX & the TWA terminal in particular. This includes both a TWA jet landing in the opening shots as well as Mell Brooks getting propositioned by someone disguised as a cop. Once outside he remarks “what a dramatic airport!”

    2. Brett Avatar

      Matt D – Yeah, I remember there were a lot of different airlines in T2, but I was trying to remember which airlines owned it. When they rebuilt it, there was something created like T2 LLC or something similarly non-descript. It was only bought out a few years ago when Delta was going in, if I remember right. But I can’t remember exactly which airlines were in that entity.

      1. phllax Avatar
        phllax

        Northwest, Hawaiian and Air Canada were the 3 owners before LAWA took it back..

      2. Robert Acherman Avatar
        Robert Acherman

        It was LAX Two Corp and it was owned by Pan Am, Northwest, Hawaiian and Air Canada.

        1. Brett Avatar

          Robert – LAX Two Corp! That was it, thank you. And looks like I did get the airlines right.

    3. JT8D Avatar
      JT8D

      I have vague memories of what I think was T2 in winter 1975/1976 flying a Pan Am 707 LAX-PPT-AKL and reverse. An open-air waiting room at PPT with giant crabs scuttling in and out. That’s the kind of thing that will wake you up after a 9 hour overnight flight from LAX.

      And then in 1978, I believe it was, flying a Pan Am 747SP from AKL to LAX (NONSTOP!) (we were on an Air NZ DC-10 for the flight to AKL, with a stop in HNL, still remember taxiing in the dark to the terminal from the reef runway – which opened only in 1977 so it was pretty new). Landing at LAX and for some reason we deplaned onto the ramp. Then we scooted over to PSA for a quick flight down to SAN.

      PSA 727 LAX-SAN, baby, it was the 70s. I wonder how many people were coked up on that plane. Probably a non-trivial number. It was later that same year that the PSA midair happened over San Diego.

      I also remember racing across the ground-level LAX parking lots in summer 1976 to meet my uncle coming off a TWA 747 from London in what I assume was T2. I was pre-teen, but it was fine those days for a kid to do that kind of thing on their own. My parents knew I was confident at airports, geek that I was. I got there in time for him to come out of immigration, my parents got there like 15 minutes later.

      Notwithstanding those gauzy memories, it is long beyond time that the old LAX configuration was killed off. Instead, it will still be with us decades into the future, needlessly adding 30 minutes or more to people’s journey times. Call it 90 million passengers in/out per year, let’s assume 15 minutes needless additional time per journey (it’s much more but whatever) and 30 years. 30*365*90*0.25 hours= over 28 million person-years of needless waiting. What a travesty. It’s some of the most valuable land in the world and totally mismanaged.

      And yeah, total redevelopment would cost a lot, but what they’re doing instead is also costing massive dollars, and for what? The taxiways will be just a screwed up, the space between the terminals inadequate, the circular drive a mess, so what you’re getting is nicer surroundings in which to buy and eat your massively overpriced snack while you wait for your flight. Which will cost a heck of a lot more because CPE is going to the moon.

      God, America sucks so bad relative to what it could have been.

  3. Boyd Tomasetti Avatar
    Boyd Tomasetti

    Will you be able to walk between United gates and Bradley Terminal?

    Thanks

    1. Brett Avatar

      Boyd – Yes, and you can do that today

  4. CraigTPA Avatar
    CraigTPA

    JetBlue should be happy, no moving people from check-in to the gates at MSC South. I flew out of T1 last month, and it’s certainly not elegant but it’s decent and will meet B6’s needs, unless it gets western expansion in its’ head again, which I don’t see happening. Sucks to be Spirit, but someone has to go there, and right now I doubt LAX is that high on NK’s priority list and I suspect there will be another round of LAX cuts as the downsizing continues.

    And while I enjoyed the bus ride to the Eagle’s Nest if I wasn’t cutting it a little close, it was also a magnificent pain in the butt if you were running behind and seeing the Nest go away is a good thing.

    I remember the Oasis and it was excellent, although having to take the tunnel between T5 and T6 was not exactly a premium passenger experience. I’ll miss T5 a little.

  5. Robert Acherman Avatar
    Robert Acherman

    Terminal 1 tenants included PSA, AirCal, Muse Air, America West, USAir, PeopleExpress and eventually Southwest.

    USAir had a lounge next to Gate 2 where their flights to Pittsburgh, PA would board.

    PeopleExpress flights would board at Gate 1 and passengers would be bussed to Terminal 2 where the PeopleExpress 747 was parked.

    Terminal 1 can be seen as a microcosm of airline mergers:
    1. PSA merged with USAir.
    2. USAir became US Airways and merged with America West, but kept the US Airways name
    3. American Airlines acquired AirCal.
    4. US Airways and American merged to become American Airlines
    5. Muse Air was acquired by Southwest and rebranded Transtar. Southwest later shut down Transtar.
    6. PeopleExpress was acquired by Continental
    7. Continental and United merged to become United Airlines

    1. JT8D Avatar
      JT8D

      Southwest shut down Transtar and a lot of the aircraft assets went to Texas Air, so it was kind of a back-door consolidation.

      I worked on leveraged lease documents at Continental for MD-80s that were originally Transtar.

      Herb Kelleher, at the time of his retirement, said that the biggest mistake he made in his Southwest career was keeping Muse Air alive. I think, if he had to do it all over again, he’d have shut it down and moved on. Total distraction.

    2. JT8D Avatar
      JT8D

      Oh, another LAX memory – arriving in LAX in the dark at T1 on US Air, and Transtar was next to us. It had this dark livery with thin white stripes and I can remember to just being able to pick out the white stripes in the dark and, from that, figuring out it was Transtar – the plane was shut down, no activity, no lights, presumably buttoned up for the night. Probably April 1986, plus or minus a month. Transtar was not long for this world. I was far from an expert at the time, but I didn’t really get it as a concept.

  6. JCFORERO Avatar
    JCFORERO

    How different it would all be if LAX and most other airports in the USA where of the common use gate model, and allow for remote tarmac use… I heard a airport architect who did the Pittsburgh new terminal, stating that that will coming to the US, that tis a much better business model for airports and cities, airlines might not like it, because it is one less barrier of entry, but for the system is muchmore efficient and cost effective. What do you know cranky?

    1. Brett Avatar

      JCFORERO – I can’t imagine this happening at LAX thanks to the legacy of who controls what gates. But also, remote tarmac use? You mean busing to airplanes? That absolutely won’t happen thanks to an agreement with surrounding communities on a gate cap which includes remote gate usage. Every new gate they build in the terminal area reduces the number of remote spots they can use.

  7. SEAN Avatar
    SEAN

    Curious question, in terminal 6 gates 67, 68 & 69 require going up an escalator to reach them… why?

    Admittedly that was 20-years ago & things may have changed since then, but the design quirk was something I just remember when I flew out of there.

    1. GM Avatar
      GM

      66 thru 69 were later additions, as such there were designed for widebody or later generation of aircraft with high bypass engines requiring greater ground clearance. The original satellite, current gates 64-65, were from the low bypass 707 era.

    2. Brett Avatar

      SEAN – That hasn’t changed. Gates 66, 67, 68AB, 69AB are all on a higher level. This was an addition built on to the end of the original satellite. Though I don’t know the exact reason, I assume it was to make it easier to accommodate widebody flying by having the gates at a higher level.

      1. Robert Acherman Avatar
        Robert Acherman

        These gates were added onto Terminal 6 for the Boeing 747 for Continental and Delta, and the McDonnnell Douglas DC-10 for Continental and the Lockheed L-1011 for Delta.

        1. SEAN Avatar
          SEAN

          Thanks everyone, that was very helpful.

  8. Benjamin Granucci Avatar

    I find it interesting how little information there is about this rebuild on the airport’s website. There’s no mention of it on the “Change is in the Air(port)” page. The Terminal 5 page only talks about the “recently completed” $229 million renovation that I guess happened at some point. The only reference I found to JetBlue being in Terminal 1 today is on the arrivals and departures pages.

  9. Doug Swalen Avatar
    Doug Swalen

    I know as of last Dorkfest that LAX had shut down/blocked off the underground connector between T4 and T5 and rerouted people a different way where you’d eventually wind up at the underground T5-T6 passageway. Is that still going to be active during construction or will it be impossible to go to/from Bradley from T7 behind security now because of the T5 demolition?

    1. Brett Avatar

      Doug – That was just because of the T4 rebuild. It will still be active durin gthe T5 rebuild.

      1. Doug Swalen Avatar
        Doug Swalen

        Well I hope they fixed the T4 entrance to that tunnel. I always thought it ridiculous that the escalator only went one direction…down…and if you wanted to go up from the tunnel you had to use the stairs.

    2. 1990 Avatar
      1990

      Oh, man, Doug Swalen is on here! Nice. I still recall your “as long as airplanes carry pets, pets are going to die” comments from a while ago at VFTW. You downplayed it with an eh…United only killed about 53 dead animals over 5 years…truly, a master-class in Empathy Deficit Disorder.

      Oh, anyway, yes, the tunnels at LAX are awful. Wish they’d improve those with these renovations, but they probably wont. One of the worst places to be during an earthquake, too. Yikes.

  10. Dominick Falzone Avatar
    Dominick Falzone

    You say that at the time of the 1984 Olympics, when the Bradley terminal opened, Terminal 1 was remodeled for Northwest Airlines. In 2000, I flew Northwest out of Terminal 3, the old TWA terminal. Also, for a period of time, Northwest shared Terminal 4 with American Airlines. Today, Northwest has merged with Delta.

    1. Robert Acherman Avatar
      Robert Acherman

      Northwest was never in Terminal 1. They were in Terminal 4 until the new Terminal 2 opened in 1988. Northwest needed more gates so they had flights going out of Terminal 3.

      1. SEAN Avatar
        SEAN

        In the movie I sited above, the TWA jet lands at gate 37A if memory serves.

  11. Jason Avatar
    Jason

    Per my LAX Ops friend JetBlue move to T1 is a temporary permanent. WN is well below their historical average they’re almost back down to late 90’s flight activities. So unless WN revamps its LAX flight schedule plan JetBlue not going anywhere. Ironically JetBlue pre Covid was Battling it out with Southwest over who was going to become the anchor tenant for Terminal Zero which WN won ultimately.
    But since then WN has drastically scaled back and shifted capacity down the road to LGB.
    Granted Not all the WN LGB additions were successful in which I blame WN social media team for NOT advertising ,marketing it as a major less stressful airport servicing both LA and Orange County markets. Heck WN should be blitzing social media the LA Basin trifecta of BUR,LGB and ONT as the cheaper alternative LA Basin gateways. LAX and SNA will always be the niche airports.
    But as of Now if LAWA decides to move forward with T Zero it could easily handle JetBlue,Breeze and NK without the need to Bus anyone.
    From what I’ve heard if WN intends to grow LAX again until T5 is completed it will be required to use the mid field gates until that time.

    1. 1990 Avatar
      1990

      If only jetBlue would actually open a lounge… supposed to finally have one at JFK T5 later this year, and BOS Terminal C next year (not holding my breath).

    2. CraigTPA Avatar
      CraigTPA

      I’d think that if WN (or B6) want to expand at LAX before the T5 project is done that Breeze would be the first to move to the midfield gates, especially if Spirit contracts further at LAX as seems likely.

      That said, I don’t see B6 expanding that much at LAX anytime soon unless the Blue Sky partnership with UA gets rejected by the gov’t, and even then probably not by a lot. B6 has more work to do on the east coast first.

      And as Brett points out in the article, WN has room to add more service with their existing gates already.

      @Brett – with all the other changes at LAX and the upcoming T9, is there still room under the gate cap for the T-Zero project now?

      1. Jeremy Avatar
        Jeremy

        Technically Terminal 9 has also been postponed indefinitely with no project start date anymore. At the very earliest work will not start on the demolition of the Eagle’s Nest until after the Olympics after which that Terminal’s construction can begin.

        UA did have some unwillingness to fund the construction of T9 (which will likely be ~$2B+) which is part of what has led to this pause. At the same time, they have also voiced frustration about their lack of gates for domestic service growth at LAX albeit a fair bit of that is their own fault for trading away gates at LAX to Alaska. Concurrently, no airline is looking to cede gates at LAX either. LAWA’s leases renewals are mandating use it or lose it requirements, but most the airlines will basically do the minimum usage to maintain their gates and avoid losing any of their existing infra.

        LAWA and LAX isn’t as willing to fund these projects currently as LAX’s overall and domestic traffic (and demand) in particular remain almost 10% below pre-COVID peaks. The current facility usage isn’t being maximized today, so why spend billions adding further gates / capacity when market conditions today don’t indicate need for it.

        I think eventually UA will fork over the $$, but that is something that we’ll find out in the 2030’s. I doubt we see a Terminal 9 break ground before 2030 if that. UA’s new lease that they just resigned extends until 2035 (and says nothing about constructing or funding a T9 or gates from that), so I’d be surprised if this commences before 2035 quite frankly unless demand flips.

      2. Brett Avatar

        CraigTPA – Breeze is already at the midfield gates. It has check-in/baggage at T1.5 today but then you get bused out there. Concourse 0 and Terminal 9 have both been indefinitely shelved. They may come around again some day, but for now they are off the table. I’m not sure what the current gate count is, but I would think there would still be room. It will just require closing more of the west remote gates. I imagine these 8 gates at the MSC South are meant to replace the Eagle’s Nest gates, but since T5 is going down, they don’t need to close them until T5 reopens.

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