United’s Hiring of Former American CCO Is Wise, Not Spite


You may have heard that news that former American Chief Commercial Officer Vasu Raja has been hired by United Airlines to temporarily run its Kinective Media group as part of a larger shake-up in loyalty. The reaction to this and been particularly silly, so let’s set the record straight. This is a good idea.

We all know Vasu’s history at American by now. He rose through the ranks to become Chief Commercial Officer and pushed the airline in several different directions. He had some would-be successes like the tie-up with JetBlue… had it not been shot down by the feds. But he also had some very big failures, most notably the complete remaking of the sales and distribution strategy that has now been largely reversed.

We don’t need to relitigate his whole tenure here, because that’s not really relevant to what’s happening. Suffice it to say that Vasu was willing to move fast and break things, and had he had more competent supervision his tenure might have ended very different, or perhaps not ended at all. I don’t know anyone who would argue he’s not smart, willing to take risks, and interested in pushing hard to effect change. These are great powers to have when used responsibly.

Vasu has been quiet since he was dismissed from American in May 2024, but he recently came back to the surface as a co-founder and CEO of Dihedral. Orbitz Founder Jeff Katz has been toiling away on this project for some time, but Vasu has joined him and resurrected the plan. It is now something with more momentum behind it.

The public information on Dihedral is somewhat sparse, and by design it’s hard to really understand exactly what it does. Effectively the idea is to help companies (including airlines) to use data to create more personalized service delivery. How it works doesn’t really matter for this discussion — not that I know anyway — but the point is that data is the way forward to create a better individualized experience which will make for happier customers and get them to pay more in the end. Dihedral has a way to do that which doesn’t get held up by legacy tech garbage that still litters airline systems.

Got it? I know, I don’t fully get it either, but basically, use data, make more money.

With this background, it should start to make sense why Vasu is going to step in to run Kinective for a time. Kinective is United’s effort to create an ad network that is highly personalized. Initially it can know how and when to display ads on its seatback screens, and JetBlue will join in as well. But it can expand further. If United has good data, Kinective can better target advertising. Whether it works or not, we’ll see eventually. But you can see how this fits quite neatly with Dihedral’s work.

So now, United Chief Commercial Officer Andrew Nocella can hire Vasu to run with Kinective. It’s all connected, just finding a way to use data to create a more tailored experience which will make the airline more money. Presumably Vasu will stick around long enough to do an integration with Dihedral’s systems, though I haven’t actually seen that actually announced. Then, a few months down the road, Vasu can step aside and United can find a permanent leader for the group.

This is a specific charge for Vasu, and he will have extremely competent supervision under Andrew. This couldn’t be more different than the situation at American, and it’s a great way for United to make Kinective really sink or swim quickly.

I’ve seen a lot of dumbassery over the years, but I have to admit that even I’m surprised by a lot of the really poor hot takes on this move. I’ve seen some saying that Vasu screwed up American, so it’s crazy to hire him here which is silly. But probably my favorite is the idea that this is somehow United CEO Scott Kirby taking revenge on his former employer American by hiring… the guy that American fired? In the immortal words of Benoit Blanc, it’s so dumb.

The world is not black and white. Context matters. Vasu is obviously a very smart and capable person or he wouldn’t have risen to the level he did at American. But the situation at American was never going to feed into his strengths with nebulous leadership and an uninspiring strategy to work under. You have to work with what you’re given. And in this case, it seems Vasu has been given something that should work quite well for all sides.

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30 responses to “United’s Hiring of Former American CCO Is Wise, Not Spite”

  1. Mike Avatar
    Mike

    Of course its wise, not spite. But a lot of it comes from Scott Kirby himself, who, very unwisely often talks about American airlines out of spite, so when he hires a former American top brass, people are going to speculate.

    1. PlanetAvgeek Avatar
      PlanetAvgeek

      Many UA employees (inc. Kirby himself) are ex-AA employees

  2. Anon Avatar
    Anon

    Is putting targetted adverts on seatback screens really the future for big network airlines to make money ? Has nobody heard that people have tablets with their own headphones / earpods ? If I’m seeing targetted adverts on a screen in front of me… then the airline is going to suddenly see me being much more cautious about what I disclose, and I’m likely to just download a film onto my tablet before a flight and watch that instead. United really shouldn’t be trying to be DoubleClick – United should be sticking to what they know, what they are good at and things they have clear structural advantages at doing well.

    1. FrequentWanderer Avatar
      FrequentWanderer

      Given the success of algorithms at Google, Apple and others- it is safe to say most people do not opt out. So good for you!

      Until UA starts to make benefits (E+, checked bags, upgrades, etc.) contingent on full participation in all their advertising . . .

      “Consumers” are the product

      1. og Avatar
        og

        I’m not sure Google and other internet-based media networks are the equivalent to a seatback screen. Very different environments, but, in short, it’s much easier to not care about what’s on the seatback screen on a flight than various websites where it’s often ads vs. subscription…

    2. Brad Avatar
      Brad

      Anon, do we disclose more than the minimum required for travel? What they already have is more than enough data for them to know a LOT about us, especially if they tie what they know into other available data sources.

      I don’t particularly like commercials, but my usual flight experience is to put the moving map up on their screen and read on my iPad. If they’re playing a commercial on the map when I glance at it, I’ll just go back to reading. When they start playing their commercials on my iPad then we’re going to have a different conversation, which is probably on the way. With WiFi providing data on the plane, especially when they get Starlink rolled out and it is free, maybe that is how they’ll feed ads to individual devices – you want the free WiFi, you’ll watch the ads, which comes full circle back to: watch our ads or pay $8 to get an ad free experience.

      Sticking to what they know, does that include credit cards?

      1. SEAN Avatar
        SEAN

        Good god no, this made my stomach turn. The YouTube channel “According to Nicole” had recent videos about how everything has become an ad & why everything feels like a scam. She relates what happened when she bought a wi-fi enabled garage door opener & all the anoying aspects of it. So imagine something like that in a tube at 35,000 feet… yikes.

      2. Oliver Avatar
        Oliver

        Kind of like how airports force you to “watch” an ad to get free WiFi?

        Does anyone actually pay attention to their ads?

        When Prime started showing ads, I used that time to refill drinks or get snacks or visit the facilities.

        But yeah, there are always people who are different.

    3. Roger Avatar
      Roger

      Seat back: When you land at your DESTINATION, ride sharing service ADVERTISER is offering $5 off for you. Interested? Replace ADVERTISER with hotels, food, car rental, entertainment, shopping, tours etc. Or an oil change if you are going home and haven’t done one for 6 months.

      Across millions of impressions it is possible to tell what works and what doesn’t. And personalized means telling what works for you. Nobody benefits if the advertising doesn’t work – neither you nor the advertisers.

      The airline itself would also be an advertiser – eg onboard food. If you always select a vegetarian option then temping you with vegetarian options would be better than a burger ad. If your stay at the destination is long enough and the airline has day trips or similar, they could tempt you with those.

      That is the promise of personalized advertising. I don’t believe it has been delivered anywhere in any environment, but there will be a first time.

      1. SEAN Avatar
        SEAN

        No matter the place or ad, I just ignore it. I just assume the ad is a scam & that is the best way to look at it.

        1. Bill from DC Avatar
          Bill from DC

          So $5 off your Uber ride from the airport would be a scam? Many but not all ads are scams.

          1. Oliver Avatar
            Oliver

            Knowing Uber, that would be a scam as they would add $10 to the fares they show you before applying your $5 coupon.

        2. Roger Avatar
          Roger

          That is a perfectly reasonable view to have.

          Now think about this from the other side. You have started a business in some location. In order to be successful you need customers. Marketing/advertising is how you do that. You will happily pay for acquiring appropriate valued customers, but will be annoyed and not want to pay for ads shown to people who will never be customers.

          I listed some of the most relevant to airline passenger businesses. If your business was in that space, you would pay too. The places showing ads like the airline in this case charge advertising rates based on their level of success. It is in their interest to figure out how to maximize that success. For example by hiring experts in the field :)

          Historically advertising in the US has been around 2% of GDP, because businesses need to find customers.

  3. NedsKid Avatar
    NedsKid

    You make an excellent point, Cranky… Vasu wasn’t the top guy. Someone still had to okay everything he proposed at AA.

    1. Tim Dunn Avatar
      Tim Dunn

      While CF is right that Vasu has a very specific, short term task, execs develop and push their strategies and own them for success or failure even if others above signed off

      1. Eric R Avatar
        Eric R

        100%. At the Vasu level, they are paid to develop their own strategies under the greater umbrella of the corporation.

        Does the President / CEO have to approve? Sure under the pretense of you (in this case Vasu) own it, you better execute on it.

        Vasu’s strategies either were not executed well or were flat out bad strategies. Either way, it doesn’t look favorable on Vasu.

      2. NedsKid Avatar
        NedsKid

        Oh, absolutely true. But also those above only have zero culpability when what their direct reports do wrong. “Well, we gave him a long leash…”

  4. FrequentWanderer Avatar
    FrequentWanderer

    Cranky’s candor and willingness to view the context of this industry, and then make a reasonable explanation to readers outside the industry, are so refreshing and appreciated! This is the kind of thoughtful insight I just can’t find anywhere else.

  5. See_Bee Avatar
    See_Bee

    Putting Vasu in a setting with better “supervision” should lead to better success for both parties

    I don’t understand what’s unique about Dihedral and every other AI-related start-up. It’s just a bunch of buzzwords for data science projects. I doubt they have anything unique under the hood; the only difference is the leaders have worked in the travel space before and can leverage relationships for business

    1. Bill from DC Avatar
      Bill from DC

      I think it’s less about supervision and more about a very focused scope. As opposed to “do whatever you want to try to fix this wreck of an airline!”

      1. See_Bee Avatar
        See_Bee

        Fair, but I think they’re inter-related

        It feels like Doug Parker comes away without many blemishes for the mess that AA is today. Dougie is just taking laps on the podcast circuit, and while we can debate his merits for his effectiveness at merging airlines, Oasis and the neutering of the fleet post-COVID were all him

  6. Sam Avatar
    Sam

    Anyone who has touched the leadership of AA over the past decade should be fired off to the moon in the back of a MAX8 with 29 degrees of pitch. Make ’em pay $100 for seat assignments with their family along the way. No standby either if they show up early for blast-off.

    1. SEAN Avatar
      1. Bill from DC Avatar
        Bill from DC

        True but I can’t really disagree with Sam either lol

  7. VictorKilo Avatar
    VictorKilo

    You could probably do a whole lot of individualized ads just by knowing the final destination. Someone flying Sioux Falls-Chicago would get an ad for something in Chicago if that’s their final destination, an ad for something in Traverse City if they’re connecting to a flight going there, something for Savannah if they’re connecting to a flight going there…..

    1. Angry Bob Crandall Avatar
      Angry Bob Crandall

      What if you’re flying to NewarK? :-)

  8. Emilio Vigil-Vazquez Avatar
    Emilio Vigil-Vazquez

    Does anyone find it ironic that Mr. “The network/schedule is the product” will now be working on an aspect of United’s product that is not related to the network or schedule?

  9. E175 Respecter Avatar
    E175 Respecter

    I’m just so thrilled to see how airlines use our co-branded credit card spending to build comprehensive advertising profiles on us.

  10. AA Employee Avatar
    AA Employee

    I definitely wouldn’t call the decision to hire Vasu spite, but I am reluctant to yet call it wise, either.

    I was an audience to Vasu and have seen his work upclose. His failings go beyond the distribution debacle. For example, he was the enthusiastic leader of AA’s continued retreat from competitive markets and build up into fortresses. The logic? AA makes more in the fortresses than in the competitive markets, so the company should isolate itself to the fortresses. If the logic were that simple, then AA today would have profits better than UA or DL. Also, he did little to lead any effort to identify the reason behind AA’s 10% unit revenue deficit to the industry, and the company is still debating whether it’s a problem of network, revenue management, product, distribution, or reliability.

    In his early days, Vasu was well known for doing little analysis (despite being hired as an analyst) and instead placing himself into the right meetings and being seen and heard by the right people. As a result, he never developed a knack for getting his hands dirty with details, nor an ability to separate those meaningful details from the noise. He is also well-known for being easily manipulated emotionally, and underlings who are resistant to change would use that to their advantage to protect or build up their fiefdoms, further stifling constructive debate and fortifying AA’s stagnant culture of mediocrity.

    Perhaps this is a good role for Vasu. Like you said, he is certainly intelligent (though more intelligent as a showman than as an analyst), and I wish him success. However, the proof of the pudding is in the tasting, so we’ll need to see his efforts after they are fully cooked to know if they are a success or failure. And if he is successful, then the irony will be that UA’s leaders first made their immature mistakes at AA, helping UA and hurting AA.

  11. Oliver Avatar
    Oliver

    “Vasu is obviously a very smart and capable person or he wouldn’t have risen to the level he did at American.”

    Oh I don’t know. My experience with corporate America tells me that that isn’t necessarily true.

    If you could explain here on this blog why his sales strategy was garbage and going to backfire, why didn’t he see that?

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