Allegiant Takes the Redneck Riviera Into Alabama


There are some places on my bucket list to visit before I die, and then there are other places which I have absolutely no desire to visit at all. The Redneck Riviera falls into the latter category despite being hugely popular as a regional destination. And now, it’s become popular enough that it has expanded west. Allegiant seems to have found footing in Gulf Shores, Alabama, and it has grown it yet again this week.

The Redneck Riviera is apparently better known by the local tourist bureaus as the Emerald Coast. That is generally recognized as the Florida gulf coast from Panama City to the Alabama border. But here’s the thing… the border doesn’t end that coastal region. Alabama has a little tiny area of land that touches the Gulf, though it is primarily dominated by Mobile Bay. There is, however, an area just east of there that might as well be part of Florida. That is where Gulf Shores lies.

This entire region has long been a center of aviation, but that wasn’t about flying passengers. The first Naval Air Station in the US was opened in Pensacola in 1911, and it is today the home of the Blue Angels. The area’s commercial aspirations are decidedly more recent. Panama City (ECP) didn’t even open until 2010, and that’s when Southwest started flying to the region as part of a deal with the developer remaking the area. GUF was around before that, but it didn’t become viable for airlines until it had a functional passenger terminal that was only just built.

Over time, these four airports have outpaced the domestic system, tripling from 0.2 percent of domestic departures to as high as 0.6 percent. That may not sound like a lot, but it is a notable change. It’s also pretty interesting considering how all of these airports sit only an hour’s drive from the next one.

The peak season on the panhandle is in summer, so it’s a very different situation than the rest of Florida which peaks in winter. That’s because the panhandle has seasons which, unlike the rest of the state, may involve “not being a hellish swamp.” Winter highs barely get into the 60s on average. So, you won’t be surprised to see that this is a very seasonal market.

GUF/ECP/PFN/VPS/PNS Departing Seats by Month

Data via Cirium

Back in the day, these airports couldn’t even break 200,000 departing seats in a month until ECP opened. Today, if they don’t break 500,000 in a summer month, that would be a big disappointment. Ignoring 2021 when airlines were desperate to place airplanes anywhere people would fly, this has been nothing but a solid growth market. There was barely even a downward blip during the peak of the pandemic.

The seasonality of the new flying became more pronounced before the pandemic, but it really went into overdrive afterwards. Lately, seats have more than doubled from winter to summer.

This is lumpy, however. There have been definitely winners and losers by airport. Pensacola was the population center with the naval presence, so it’s no surprise to see it become the largest airport in the region, especially in off-peak times. But look what happened once ECP opened… nothing changed. It was entirely additive as the area just exploded in popularity. I suppose it was popular before, but it was more of a drive market.

Departing Seats by Airport in Redneck Riviera

Data via Cirium

Today, it’s Destin/Fort Walton Beach (VPS) that is the true summer rock star. It has far more variability than Pensacola with about 50 to 60 percent of PNS’s seats in winter, sometimes surging to more than PNS flies in summer. But before I move to the next chart, look at GUF. It is basically nothing right now, but that is quickly changing. I’ll get to that more later.

This region used to be dominated by Delta with upwards of 70 percent of departing seats. But over time, American made inroads as did Southwest. And now, Delta is closer to 40 percent at best (in winter), and American can be larger. Southwest is third, but there’s Allegiant in fourth place.

Allegiant didn’t even start flying to the region until May 2016 when it opened up VPS. This past summer, there was service to, well, pretty much where you’d expect: anywhere north of the panhandle. The airline has turned it from a drive market to a fly market, or at least in a small part with up to 16x daily flights in peak summer.

Allegiant VPS Destinations – July 2025

Data via Cirium

And now let’s get back to Gulf Shores. When the terminal opened for summer 2025, Allegiant started with 6 cities (in brown and black below).

Maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper – copyright © Karl L. Swartz.

All of those were suspended in winter except for East St Louis (BLV) and Cincinnati, but they were joined by the blue cities of Appleton, Des Moines, and Nashville. Everything will come back next summer except for Houston in black. But now, with this latest announcement, there are five new green markets joining the party: Huntsville, Louisville, Oklahoma City, Omaha, and Springfield (MO).

This is still small potatoes in the scheme of things with an average of just over 4 daily flights, but the airline has also only a few previous months of actual data. I’m sure that the combination of Allegiant’s passenger driving data on the VPS flights plus this past summer’s performance, it has found more opportunities to just keep pumping up GUF further.

It may not be on my list to visit, but it seems like there are plenty who disagree with me. And Allegiant seems ready to take advantage of that.

Updated 11/26 to include PFN airport before ECP opened

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61 responses to “Allegiant Takes the Redneck Riviera Into Alabama”

  1. AlanZ Avatar
    AlanZ

    While indeed the Blues are based there, it is more known for “Pre-Flight,” where naval aviation cadets were commissioned (me included in 1965.) From there I went Forest Sherman field, part of NAS Pensacola. Our training center was in hanger adjacent to the Blues.

    BTW, I flew to NAS in 1964 for my Pre-Flight, landing at PNS on an EAL 727, my first flight on a jet.

    1. Allan humm Avatar
      Allan humm

      EAL was Eastern,Thanks for flying itinerary the old days

  2. Kevin Avatar
    Kevin

    I’ll be curious to see how ATW performs over time. People in WI tend to see driving to the redneck Riviera almost as a rite of passage. It’s just something you do.

  3. Matt D Avatar
    Matt D

    I got about as far as the second paragraph. Reminds me of Trader Joes.

    There have been calls for them to come here to where I’m at, Visalia/Tulare area. That’s about the midway point between Bakersfield and Fresno for those Californians who didn’t know there was anything north of Castaic and south of Sacramento.

    The area has a pretty decent population. Around a quarter of a million. And of course the full spectrum of economic classes represented.

    Trader Joes has flat out thumbed their nose saying they won’t come here. Not because they don’t think they would do well and make money. But because they just don’t want to serve “our kind”.

    That’s the kind of elitist, discriminatory attitude that eventually gets companies walloped with lawsuits. Even if they have little or no merit, they still cost the company in legal fees, time and hassle, and negative publicity.

    I know this is kind of a thread-crapping reply and that wasn’t my intent. But that opening statement of yours was really evocative of the quirky, hipster grocery chain.

    1. JHS Avatar
      JHS

      Well, you’re right; you slightly drifted off topic.

      But, your post made me recall back in the day when I was an ATC at BFL (PATCO & pre-deregulation), United offered decent service out of VIS. At least two northbound and two southbound 737s daily. I especially liked the mid-afternoon LAX-BFL-VIS-SFO milk run. The BFL-VIS leg flew at 6000’.

    2. Kenneth Avatar
      Kenneth

      Consumer segmentation is a real science. I can use mobile device data right now to tell you whether the population of any area is consistent with who shops at Trader Joe’s. I can assure you that Trader Joe’s corporate isn’t discriminating against “your kind” because of anything other than the likelihood that your kind would shop there.

      This is just more of the rural South self-victimizing for attention when the truth is that the rest of the country doesn’t think poorly of you. They don’t think about you at all.

      1. Edward Shelswell-White Avatar
        Edward Shelswell-White

        Re “rural South self-vitimizing…” you do realize the comment to which you replied was written by someone in California, about rural California, right? And if you don’t think about us at all, I find it interesting that you would bother to comment. Perhaps the lady doth protest too much ;)

        1. Matt D Avatar
          Matt D

          Exactly. And one thing I’d just like to add, and what I think the “focus groups” and “market studies” are getting dead wrong (this is where it helps to be street smart as opposed to book smart) is that Visalia and Tulare are not “rural” areas by any stretch of the imagination.

          Yes, we are surrounded by agriculture of various types on all four sides, but the cities themselves are….just like any other city.

          Go drive down Mooney Blvd in Visalia. And then for a mile in either direction to the sides of it. The street is loaded with every imaginable kind of store and restaurant. And has plenty of gridlocked traffic. Could visually pass for almost any main street in suburban SoCal. Same thing with the adjoining neighborhoods. Houses and people everywhere. Of all classes and types.

          Tulare, the actual city I live in, is much the same way. But on a smaller scale. And tons and tons and tons of houses. Lots of new ones going up. Including around me, where on three sides, I had, less than a decade ago, views of fields. Now, also surrounded by new homes.

          Retail and amenities haven’t really kept up here. But now that would be going off on a tangent.

          Anyway, getting back on point. It doesn’t matter what the “charts” say. Just come take a look at the stores where likely TJ’s shoppers would also go. Like Kohls, Starbucks, or Target. And see the crowds-how many of them there are-and how much they’d spend.

          TJ’s is totally missing this one.

          1. CraigTPA Avatar
            CraigTPA

            Part of Trader Joe’s marketing philosophy is to limit the number of stores to drive a sense of exclusivity, even though that would seem to not go with their pricing strategy.

            I think part of it is also driven by local income levels – look at where their stores are in Fresno. One is in the affluent area out in the northeast and the other is in Clovis. This actually suprised me – while I grew up in Fresno much of my knowledge of the northern part of the city is badly outdated – as it’s surprising for two to be that close together.

            We only have three in the Tampa Bay area, the two in Pinellas County are over 20 miles apart and the third requires going across the Bay into Tampa itself.

          2. txjim Avatar
            txjim

            This reminds me of the Costco vs Sams Club comparison. There’s an impression that Costco is more high-end and acceptable than low-class Sams. On the other hand (in my area, at least) Costco is exclusively in higher-income areas whereas Sams can appear anywhere, regardless of affluence.

            Who serves the public better? Should Costco be praised for ignoring people that are “not our kind?”

            1. Matt D Avatar
              Matt D

              Which just further validates my point because Visalia does have a Costco and has for many years. A second one is under construction.

            2. JT8D Avatar
              JT8D

              This seems like mostly BS to me. In a free market society, Costco’s not obligated to serve anyone. One of the key business model aspects of Costco is they are *not* seeking to be all things to all people. Chances are, they don’t have your favorite brand of peanut butter. They’ll have one, maybe two brands of peanut butter. You can buy that brand, or go elsewhere for peanut butter. That they do not have your brand is not an insult to you on their part, it’s just how they’ve chosen to operate. Like it? Great. Don’t like it? Also fine.

              Costco focuses on store locations that can make money. It’s also been slow to expand into upstate NY – Buffalo will only open next year (and yes, it will be in Amherst, which is the upmarket part of the Buffalo region) and Albany is apparently also being built.

              I mean, yeah, frustrating if you live in Buffalo and you really want that $4.99 rotisserie chicken, but the rational assumption is simply that Costco had more compelling alternatives to pursue instead, which would be the entirely rational thing for them to do. They’re entitled to set whatever criteria they think is important to them and execute relative to it.

              If they’re going into a metro area for the first time, where would you expect them to place their store, in the worst part of town? Obviously not.

          3. Anthony Avatar
            Anthony

            Not that this has anything to do with airlines, but for every Tulare/Visalia comparison, there are thousands of other US towns that meet the same demographic argument. I can argue that Bonney Lake/Lake Tapps/Puyallup, WA should have a TJ’s for all of the reasons you argued.

        2. Kenneth Avatar
          Kenneth

          Southern identity isn’t geographically confined, lest one ignore all of the Confederate flags you see flying around the Midwest & New England.

    3. JT8D Avatar
      JT8D

      Can you point me to a source where Trader Joe has said they won’t go to Visalia because it’s not their kind of people?

  4. John G Avatar
    John G

    Brett you’re doing a beautiful area a real disservice.

    That is the prettiest beach in the mainland United States. I’m not joking. And I have experienced… I’ve spent the last 30 years looking at hurricane damage, storm damage, damage from El Niño storms, etc. I have been just about every piece of real estate on the water in the United States in my career.

    Soft, white sand, beautiful blue water. Good restaurants, nice place to go.

    Sometimes I think in this country we’ve gotten so divided we can’t even enjoy the beautiful parts of the country. Southerners avoid California because they think it’s a liberal morass for the same reason that people in California put down Gulf Shores.

    1. BK Avatar
      BK

      Yep, I have travelled extensively and this area, especially Gulf Shores in Alabama has the best beaches in America. The seafood is affordable and some of the best I’ve eaten anywhere. The Panama City area continues to recover from Hurricane Michael, but it’s a truly beautiful area with great food and great beaches. Destin is the most pricy and Pensacola is the most populated. I suggest Gulf Shores or Panama City!

  5. grichard Avatar
    grichard

    I agree with the sentiment in these comments. Overall, this was an interesting post about a trend in domestic passenger aviation. But that introduction felt pretty sour. Like my niece says, “Don’t yuk somebody’s yum.”

  6. GRT Avatar
    GRT

    Ive been to the Gulf Shores area, south of Foley Alabama, some 15+ years ago. I was blown away at how lovely it was.

    Total hidden gem.

    It wasn’t heavily commercialized.

    It’s like old school America, for regular folks.

    Hope it has the same distinctive feel today with that approachability/accessibility I remember fondly.

  7. Emil Avatar
    Emil

    CF,
    I think that you screwed the pooch on your analogy. Okaloosa Island is a dynamite beach with great rental condos and restaurants. The water is a heck of a lot cleaner than Long Beach! You should try it once.

  8. stogieguy7 Avatar
    stogieguy7

    You’re allowing the moniker “redneck riviera” to prejudice you against what is a lovely area. And, while there are certainly more modest/budget/downscale accommodations in the region, there are also some more luxurious areas as well. Basically, this is a region that is more like what Florida used to be like without the overdevelopment and throngs from up north. Less crowded, more natural and with the finest beach sand you’ve ever seen.

    Cranky, your stereotypes are showing here. It’s a fine area and one that you clearly do need to visit. If for no other reason, to open your mind a bit.

    1. dave Avatar
      dave

      agree. Most beautiful beaches in the country. It’s shocking to me how otherwise intelligent people allow stereotypes to close so many beautiful doors.

  9. Jason Smith Avatar
    Jason Smith

    I grew up on Little Lagoon, about five miles outside of Gulf Shores down Fort Morgan Road. As a teen, like most teens, I would dream of all the places I’d experience and live once I was “older”. As I was getting “older”, I saw beaches all around this country and most of the world. Now that I am definitely “older” and planning our empty nest days, after all those exotic places, we’re planning on settling in a quiet corner of Mobile Bay just outside of the town I grew up in.

    Is Gulf Shores perfect? Nope. Touristy? A few months out of the year nearly unbearably touristy. But it’s still got the beaches, climate, food and laid back people that make it what it is. And part of the reason it isn’t perfect and feels overly touristy at times is because of people like you, Californians, most who have transplanted to Nashville and are experiencing the South and all it’s sights and sounds. Do I throw stones at them for this? Nope.

    This isn’t the first time I’ve read or heard podcasts from you where you’ve casted stones you should’ve let lie. They’re obviously an attempt at humor and they nearly always miss the mark; you’re just not funny as you think you are. I’ve been an indirect target of this humor plenty over the years as a 19-year pilot with Spirit.

    Not all of us think California and the West Coast is the greatest thing ever. For me personally, SoCal is ridiculously overpopulated and overpriced. But I fly in there, time and time again, and welcome those visiting the “Great State of California” and wish them an enjoyable trip and query them on their fun on the way out. In other words, I work in transportation/tourism and don’t let my personal views on the place come into play.

    Maybe you should consider doing the same? You’ve shared incredible insight on the industry over the years and I’ve enjoyed pouring over the data. But your cheap shots at my employer and now my hometown aren’t necessary and, for me at least, give your credibility a hit.

    1. Skighee Avatar
      Skighee

      Well Said….I hate Californians and how they ruined skin towns in CO, ID and MT, leaving California because they didn’t like thte traffic and politics only to move these ski towns and want to push their Californian ways on the locals with pitchfork protests, new rec center and a community pool for their kiddos….When I see a red cursive California plate in my state, I cringe….go away…don’t like it here and move here…we don’t want you! And TBH I personally think Hawaii is a dump….and if you don’t know this yet, the locals really don’t like you either!

  10. Don M Avatar
    Don M

    It would be helpful to include the old Panama City airport (PFN) in this analysis, where airline service began in the 1950s and continued until the airport closed in 2010 when the carriers moved to ECP. Annual enplanements averaged about 160,000 in the airport’s final years. In the 1970s and 1980s most service was provided with a mix of 727s and DC-9s. In the 1990s Delta upgraded to 737s and MD-80s, but by the early 2000s the regional jets had taken over. Wikipedia has a nice summary of airline traffic at PFN.

    1. Bill from DC Avatar
      Bill from DC

      I agree. Although the new WN service at ECP was additive, the airport itself was not, having replaced PFN as you noted. I think it was primarily service by the major carriers to their hubs as it likely remains now.

      St Joe Paper Company was the impetus behind the development of ECP.

    2. haolenate Avatar
      haolenate

      Florida Gulf had a maintenance base there as well, and flew daily to MCO, MSY, and TPA up until the early 2000s when USAirways started pulling back some of its Florida ops and Mesa started parking the 1900s.

      Didn’t Delta have an MD-88 have an uncontained engine failure and kill someone in PFN in the 90s? After seeing that as a younger adult, I could NEVER sit behind an engine on an MD 80 series again…

      1. Bob V Avatar
        Bob V

        On July 6, 1996, at 1424 central daylight time, a McDonnell Douglas MD-88, N927DA, operated by Delta Air Lines Inc., as flight 1288, experienced an engine failure during the initial part of its takeoff roll on runway 17 at Pensacola Regional Airport in Pensacola, Florida.
        Uncontained engine debris from the front compressor front hub (fan hub) of the No. 1 (left) engine penetrated the left aft fuselage. Two passengers were killed and two others were seriously injured.

    3. Brett Avatar

      Don M – Oh man, I really messed that up. I’m sorry to say I didn’t even realize there was an old airport there. I have gone back and updated the charts. It doesn’t change much, though it does make the jump when ECP opened smaller. Thank you for bringing this up, because I had no idea.

      1. Pete Avatar
        Pete

        Flew a few times on the National Airlines ‘milk run’, a 727 that stopped at PFN on its way from Jacksonville to New Orleans. Also stopped at Tallahassee, Pensacola and Mobile. This was in the 70’s I guess, I was in my 20’s at the time. I took my younger brother on one of the flights from PFN to PNS, a long 30 minute flight lol, it was his first airplane ride. He grew up to fly in the Air Force and then became a pilot for Northwest and later Delta.

  11. Paper Boarding Pass Avatar
    Paper Boarding Pass

    @Cranky,
    I find your “redneck riviera” comment a bit prejudicial.
    I don’t think you really want to know what we think of California and Governor Newsom’s coiffure.

    Years ago, Destin and Fort Walton Beach were the “GO TO PLACE” for the New Orleans crowd for summer and Spring Break. Orange Beach (Alabama) was just developing as an alternative. Within easy driving distance, beautiful clear water, white sand, reasonable rates. Lots of great memories! Today, they have turned into Condo City with many a northern sucking up the real estate.

    Thats the point I think you failed to identify in the article. Theses are northerns who are tired of the snow & plows & drifts and what some time in the sun and Allegiant has pegged it.

    I can speak from experience having lived in the Hudson Valley. Back then, the majority of the flights out of Steward (SWF) heading to Florida in the winter were at capacity. People were looking for an alternative to the bleak cold weather of NY state.

  12. stvr Avatar
    stvr

    Written like someone who never took the epic orlando to new orleans round trip that i did once — didn’t you go to molokai?

  13. Edward Shelswell-White Avatar
    Edward Shelswell-White

    Brett – I’m a former (though non-native) Californian with a California bride, and now a resident of the Gulf Shores area. Come on over for a visit anytime. ESW…

  14. See_Bee Avatar
    See_Bee

    I’m typically a Cranky defender on people blowing up his threads with political comments, but I think he needs to own up on this one. Just google Alys or Rosemary Beach. They are well developed areas with some of the whitest sand you will find in the U.S. Your ignorance is showing with the tone you integrated throughout this piece

  15. Pablo Avatar
    Pablo

    When I lived in Navarre Beach (between Pensacola and Fort Walton) we called it “lower Alabama.” Just as descriptive and slightly less…insulting? While the Panhandle is part of Florida on the map, in reality it really is an intersection between Florida and the South the same way Texas is the intersection between the South and the West. Honestly, it’s a lot better than most of the rest of Florida and has been mentioned here, the beaches are absolutely wonderful. Honestly, I’m pretty sure you’d like Pensacola and Destin quite a bit. Winter is a bit too cool, summer is a bit too hot (and crowded, and earning the nickname “Redneck Riviera”) and Spring is a bit to breaky. Go in the Fall and you’ll be glad you did.

    1. Brad Avatar
      Brad

      This!

      My wife and I and another couple spent a week in Fairhope, AL the middle of October last year at the Grant Hotel & Golf Resort. The southern hospitality was on display, as usual, the weather could not have been better. Plenty to do in addition to the golf we played. Great food with plenty of fresh local seafood.

      At the end of the week, everyone declared that it has been one of our best vacation trips in a very long time.

      I’ve been to the area before and knew generally what we were in store for, the other three had not. They started with few expectations and when all was said and done, we’re looking forward to a return in the near future.

      I guess my only point would be that you should try something before you spend too much effort dissing it.

  16. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    I’m always amused how people try to find offense in things. The phrase redneck riviera gained widespread use due to a 1978 NYT article about how NFL quarterbacks like Kenny Stabler and Richard Todd were vacationing on the Gulf Coast along with other working class southerners. They used the phrase themselves to describe it (and apparently it had been floating around in that area for awhile). An Alabama journalist did some research in the 2010s and discovered it was referenced in a song sung at the bar Sam & Shine’s before that and the phrase was adopted by locals.

    Literally, the locals named it the “Redneck Riviera.” Brett did not. J

    ust because he has no desire to visit does not mean a “Californian’s sticking his nose up at it.” Are the beaches nice? Sure. But are parts of it “pretty redneck?” Yeah, and I say that as someone who is from Georgia. And by the way – real rednecks wear the redneck moniker with pride.

    Yes, there are very upscale places along 30A (Rosemary Beach) but if you have ever visited Destin during early summer, I don’t think you can deny it has a hint of “redneck.”

    1. Brett Avatar

      Chris, Anthony, Jonny, and anyone else who saw the absurdity of all these other comments about me not wanting to visit the region — Thanks for having some levity on this.

      For everyone else, all of the stupid reasons you gave for me not wanting to visit aren’t true. I’m sure the beaches are pretty, but so what? I can get to some great beaches a lot more easily than I can get to the Gulf Coast. We have the West Coast, Mexico, and nonstops to Hawai?i that get me there faster than the connections required to get to the Gulf. There’s a reason it’s a regional destination…

      1. Anthony Avatar
        Anthony

        Imagine forgoing the beautiful SoCal beaches near your home to spend 2 flights and 9 hours flying to Alabama.

  17. Mic Avatar
    Mic

    I grew up going to Gulf Shores; then traveled around the world. I returned last year and visited twice this year. You should really visit a place before you make it sound like the worst place in the world. Your left-coast bias is showing.

  18. Anthony Avatar
    Anthony

    I don’t understand why people are criticizing him for saying he personally does not want to travel there. We all have preferences about where we want to spend our precious vacation time and who we want to spend it around, and that is his preference. I wouldn’t spend a week of my vacation in Alabama or Florida either. It’s his blog and he’s allowed to share his opinions. He also could have completely ignored the huge growth of this region, but dedicated a well-researched article on his daily blog to cover it.

    1. txjim Avatar
      txjim

      He’s welcome to state his opinion. Does not stop others from taking him to task for what many think was a foolish remark

  19. Roberto C. Fishman Pratt Avatar
    Roberto C. Fishman Pratt

    Millions of people visit the GUF region every year. They seem to like it just fine thank you. The drive from anywhere north has always been pretty-close to awful, particularly in the summer. Kudos to the GUF Airport, Allegiant, and the Alabama Beaches region for building a great new FLY beach market!

  20. Andrew K Avatar
    Andrew K

    I’m from Phoenix and have spent time on beaches in CA, Hawai’i, USVI, St Lucia… Went to Destin in a near-shoulder weekend and found it a bit crowded and the area commercialized in a way I didn’t care for, but the beach itself is beautiful. It’s one of those places that if I lived nearby I’d absolutely visit on the regular.

    1. Adrienne JM Avatar
      Adrienne JM

      I live in Destin and lately, there is no “near shoulder season” anymore. Traffic is awful, spring break season is horrendous, and summer brings crowds of people with very little respect for the beauty of our beaches. Add to that overdevelopment with underdeveloped infrastructure. This area used to be a well-kept secret, however, Destin has reached its saturation point and may soon implode from too many vacationers. I still love living here tho…just sometimes wish people would find a different place to go.

  21. Edward Shelswell-White Avatar
    Edward Shelswell-White

    Brett – Adding some information to your GUF section from our EPIC route profitability analysis:

    BLV-GUF, GUF-XNA, and CVG-GUF all seem to have been solidly profitable; two of them above 15% domestic net operating margin (aka, prosperity)
    GUF-MCI was within striking distance of profitability
    GUF-HOU was, well, I’ll paraphrase Billy Bean: there are strong markets, and there are weak markets; then there’s 50 feet of crap; and then there’s GUF-HOU…

    1. JT8D Avatar
      JT8D

      Odd market for Allegiant to try. The thing about the other Allegiant markets to GUF – it’s been in those cities for years, most over a decade. They have huge lists of people who have flown them to other places. And if you’ve already flown Allegiant to other places, there’s a decent chance you’ll try them to a new place, like GUF.

      And in a place like DSM, Allegiant is, if not a big deal, at least a meaningful player in the location vacation market. So it won’t have much trouble getting people’s attention when it offers GUF.

      None of that applies to Houston.

      1. MeanMeosh Avatar

        Even putting Allegiant’s longevity in the market aside, my question is, how much demand is there really for Gulf Shores from metro Houston? There certainly is from Dallas and east Texas, though the play there is 1) it’s already a 4-6 hour drive to Galveston, and the beach there is gross, and 2) it’s only a few hours more to Gulf Shores or Pensacola, which are a whole lot nicer. Don’t know if that market exists in Houston, where even if you don’t like Galveston (which, incidentally, is all of 45 minutes from HOU), it’s not that far from the much nicer beaches in Corpus or Padre. And if you live in inland east Texas/western Louisiana, and have to slog all the way to the other side of Houston to get to HOU, what’s the point? Maybe if SHV-VPS works, they can look at a couple of the other smaller airports in that area like TYR or AEX, assuming you can get an A319 or A320 into those airports. Or maybe TKI once commercial service starts. I think you’d have a shot at capturing a decent number of folks who would drive otherwise.

      2. John g Avatar
        John g

        It’s not odd at all.

        Gulf Shores is a major beach area, one of the nicest in the country, including Orange Beach ans Perdido Key (on the Florida side).

        Gulf Shores is nearly an hour and a half from PNS, and the same from a toxically overpriced airport in Mobile. It’s a huge opportunity.

        Most people drive down there. Adding some flights will increase the footprint, and there are lots of folks that would go.

  22. Jonny Avatar
    Jonny

    Oh man I’m laughing at the comment section on this one.
    I’m only going to point out that Brett just said he doesn’t want to visit. All y’all taking offense to that are projecting your own biases for why he doesn’t want to visit. He never said any of the things you’re claiming.
    For all we know, he hates mosquitoes and that means he won’t go there.

    Don’t hear what he didn’t say! YOUR bias is showing.

  23. MeanMeosh Avatar

    Speaking as someone who falls on the opposite end of the political spectrum to Cranky, I think y’all are reading WAY too much into the “I have no desire to visit” line. He said he has no desire to visit. There’s plenty of places in the world I don’t particularly care to visit, even if they’re considered “trendy” or high demand. I don’t see anything in this post that disparages the area or the people who live/visit.

    Anyway, Cranky, I would tell you, the beaches are absolutely gorgeous. Go in April or October when the weather is still nice, but the crowds have dispersed, and I bet you’ll change your mind.

  24. lorenasanchezvicarrio Avatar
    lorenasanchezvicarrio

    Hard pass. What a wretched corner of the country.

  25. DesertGhost Avatar
    DesertGhost

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

  26. Darin Avatar
    Darin

    After reading the comments, I reread the article—apparently the only thing some folks read closely is their own outrage. It’s striking how “I have absolutely no desire to visit at all” was so quickly internalized as a moral offense, projected onto Brett, and then used to justify a full display of indignation. If a light breeze feels like an attack on your identity, it may be time for some quiet reflection.

    The rest of the uproar seems to stem from repurposing the original, mildly affectionate meaning of “redneck riviera.” People moved past another chance to examine their own response and went straight into honor-defense mode, making sure not to miss an opportunity for petty jabs at the “other” to soothe whatever slight they imagined.

    I’ll probably never visit the area either, mostly due to limited opportunity, distance, and because there are roughly a thousand places ahead of it on my list. Still, I can acknowledge it sounds pleasant, be glad people enjoy it, and appreciate that it adds to the range of places worth knowing about. Happy to learn something new… which is why I read this blog.

    And for those insisting “Californians” (a category so broad it’s functionally meaningless) look down on Gulf Shores: we don’t. We simply don’t think about you at all. Enjoy the weekend.

  27. Holly Avatar
    Holly

    Y’all stop telling everyone how nice the beaches are! We try to keep it a secret. Yes, it is a bit redneck. Go to Flora Bama for some great people watching and to see the wide variety of people who vacation here.

  28. KC Avatar
    KC

    In the category of “what were you thinking?”, why would you start a market analysis by stating you would never go to a place that you have not ever been? Offensive to those that call it home and vacation there. The comments are a strong indicator that you owe your readers an apology for the insult or perhaps provide some analytical proof justifying your conclusion that it is a place you would never go.

  29. NotsoCranky Flier Avatar
    NotsoCranky Flier

    You are missing out. Alys Beach, Seaside, and Rosemary Beach are great places for families much of the year.

  30. MK03 Avatar
    MK03

    Hey there Brett. I know the team’s on Thanksgiving break this week, but will the next Weekly Review bring up New Pacific’s collapse?

    1. Brett Avatar

      MK03 – It depends on if there’s actually any real news this week. That is frankly a non-story. With scheduled flights gone and Ravn already out of business, this was just a tiny charter carrier that had a fake agreement to fly for a Maldivian business class operation. Not really all that big of a story!

  31. Retired Gambler Avatar
    Retired Gambler

    You comment about having no desire to visit sounds like a typically left coast liberal thinking anything along the South has to be a waste of time. So pathetic and sad. Frankly, do me a favor – fly to VPS or a weekend trip and check out Destin, Sandestin and the communities along 30A. The term “redneck riviera” may apply to Panama City Beach and Pensacola Beach (can’t speak to Gulf Shore as never been) but Destin and the communities to the East before you hit PCB are incredible and filled with great beaches, artist communities and incredible dining. If you really want upscale look at properties in Alys Beach or Rosemary Beach. Just shows you make a knee jerk decision with ABSOLUTELY no justification.

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