Cranky Weekly Review presented by Oakland San Francisco Bay Airport: The Shutdown is Shut Down, When a Window Seat Doesn’t Require a Window


Shutdown Ends, (Hopefully) Bringing Our Long, ATC National Nightmare to an End

One week after we posted in this space about DOT-mandated drawdowns of ATC capacity due to the ongoing government shutdown, we now begin the recovery from the unprecedented reduction in capacity. It was a rocky week in the domestic skies, with thousands of flights canceled, tens of thousands delayed, and countless freakouts at airline customer service agents who certainly were responsible for the mess and deserved the ire of passengers chock full of silver elite status.

The FAA will lift capacity restrictions as controller staffing recovers, it will take several days for each carrier’s networks to recover from the disruption and return to normal… assuming enough controllers actually come back to work. That’s the one advantage of flying American this month — you’ll be getting the same experience and on-time performance regardless of the shutdown, so everything will seem normal enough.

In addition to ATC staff, we hope that they — along with their TSA and CBP counterparts — and anyone else who worked over the last six weeks to keep the air travel system functioning for no pay receive their back pay quickly and without hassle. We also propose each person receive a gift basket containing a half gallon jug of POG juice flavored BuzzBallz, an 8-pack of Southwest’s old Salty Death Mix, a get-out-of-Newark-free card, and a key fob to provide access to Delta’s Biscoff tunnel.

Does a Window Seat Require a Window? United Says No

United Airlines is seeking to have a suit in San Francisco federal court dismissed that says it overcharged passengers when offering up “window seats” that contained no window, claiming that its designation of a window seat “cannot reasonably be interpreted as a promise that the seat will have an exterior window view,” which is just incredible. If United wins and gets the case thrown out, the possibilities are limitless. “Just because it said Hilo on your ticket, you can’t reasonably expect to end up there. Enjoy Newark.”

According to those who filed the lawsuit, passengers typically buy window seats to relieve the stress or fear of flying, get more light, watch the world go by from 30,000 feet, or to verify that the wing is still attached to the aircraft.

The class action lawsuit against both United and Delta says that customers would have chosen other seats had they known their window seat came without a window. Meanwhile Air France is laughing this one off on the way, playing 3D chess — their windows are so dirty you can’t see outside anyway.

Avelo Adds Six

Avelo Airlines is adding six new routes to places that someone, somewhere definitely might want to go to at some point, while also adding a second aircraft to its base in Lakeland and a third in Wilmington (DE).

Where’s Avelo flying? Thanks for asking. The two new routes from Wilmington (DE) are Atlanta (4x weekly) and Chicago/ORD (5x weekly). From Concord (when translated to Avelo, “Concord” means “Charlotte.”) it’ll fly to Chicago/ORD and Nashville (4x weekly on each), and from Lakeland to Atlanta (5x weekly) and Detroit (2x weekly).

The Detroit to Lakeland flights start in February, just in time for Tigers spring training in Lakeland, while the flights from Wilmington to Atlanta and Chicago are also scheduled to have someone fly on them eventually.

DHS Considered Aircraft Purchase from Spirit

The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security kicked the tires with Spirit about purchasing ten B737 aircraft to support its deportation efforts. Spirit, an airline which flies Airbus exclusively, did not sell the Boeing planes to the government as it can’t sell something it never had — and trust us, if it could, it would.

DHS recently purchased two Gulfstreams on behalf of the Coast Guard, but did not pursue this purchase any further when it discovered the planes it desired didn’t exist. Spirit is in the process of shedding dozens and dozens of aircraft as it attempts to slither its way out of bankruptcy and would have gladly considered the cash infusion that could have come from selling the airplanes to the government.

As it is, deportees being flown on Spirit will have to do it the old-fashioned way, by buying a ticket on Spirit’s website and playing seat assignment-roulette at check-in.

New Pacific Just Won’t Die, Goes to Infinity and BeOnd

BeOnd Airlines is an airline — sorta — that has two aircraft that it flies mostly to the Maldives, claiming to be the world’s first premium leisure airline. In truth, it’s about the 400th, but we won’t quibble. New Pacific, of course is also an airline — well, not really — but it’s got an Air Operating Certificate to operate in the United States, despite not having ever successfully launched anything in the United States or anywhere else.

Well, square peg, meet round peg, and the two can come together to try and fit through a triangle-sized hole. BeOnd wants to create a U.S.-based subsidiary, flying an all-business class airline, an idea that has never, ever worked in the U.S., and never will. But who are we to crush dreams, especially when it could give us so much content on this little space of the internet on Friday afternoons?

The gist is that New Pacific will operate eight aircraft — likely A319 and A321s — with Beond’s business class product on-board. While it does expect to look for charter business, it also has a goal of being a Part 121 operator, which would put it in competition with just a few airlines, maybe you’ve heard of them, such as American, Delta, JetBlue, Southwest, and United amongst many, many others. This is BeOnd crazy.

  • Air Algérie received its first A330-900neo. You always remember your first.
  • Air Canada Rouge is moving closer to an all MAX fleet.
  • Air France‘s new La Premiere debuted Monday on a flight from Paris to Miami.
  • Air France-KLM continues to look towards tapping into TAP.
  • Alaska‘s new flight to Rome is available for sale.
  • Allegiant named CFO Robert (BJ) Neal as its new president.
  • BermudAir is done with Hartford after just seven months.
  • British Airways is going to do just fine on Transatlantic flying, according to the guy who’s paycheck is directly tied to the airline making money on Transatlantic flying.
  • Cathay Pacific is resuming seasonal service to Adelaide.
  • Emirates will operate a third daily flight to Nairobi beginning in March.
  • Etihad might be buying some Airbus aircraft. Of course it also might not be.
  • Finnair is investing nearly $3 billion in its short-haul fleet for people who want to leave Finland but not go too far.
  • Icelandair is laying off staff.
  • IndiGo is are growing its cooperation in Guangzhou with China Southern.
  • JetBlue will be giving the people of Orlando the non-stop connectivity with Rochester (NY) they’ve been yearning for for generations.
  • JSX took delivery of its first ATR 42.
  • LATAM has some pilots on strike.
  • LOT will begin flying to San Francisco quite a lot. 4x weekly, in fact.
  • PIA is refuting claims its management team is incompetent. Well, ball don’t lie.
  • Qatar is growing its presence in Saudi Arabia.
  • Ryanair is back in court challenging state aid.
  • SKY Airline is seeking regulatory approval to join ABRA group, the venture between both Avianca and Gol.
  • TAP Air Portugal is official airline of Team Portugal. It beat out Aeroflot and Interflug for the honor.
  • TAROM is receiving $26 million in emergency aid from the Romanian government. Ryanair will certainly challenge them in court at some point.
  • Turkish reported record $1.1 billion Q3 profits.

A truck loaded with Vicks Vaporub overturned on the highway. Amazingly, there was no congestion for 8 hours.

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24 responses to “Cranky Weekly Review presented by Oakland San Francisco Bay Airport: The Shutdown is Shut Down, When a Window Seat Doesn’t Require a Window”

  1. Bernardo Ng Avatar
    Bernardo Ng

    Personally, I don’t appreciate the jokes you made on the spirit post. Specifically, “As it is, deportees being flown on Spirit will have to do it the old-fashioned way, by buying a ticket on Spirit’s website and playing seat assignment-roulette at check-in.” These deportations are real and affect real people, and to me is not a laughing matter or something to be making a joke about. it comes off very distasteful.

    1. Patrick Avatar
      Patrick

      Which is why I will never fly Avelo

    2. stogieguy7 Avatar
      stogieguy7

      Get a life, Bernardo. If you overstayed your visa in Brasil, the authorities there would arrest and deport you, yet nobody would claim that Brasil is abusing human rights. It only works that way when it’s the US or UK or EU. No, Brasil would be heroically defending their culture.

      The hypocrisy alone is good for a laugh.

      1. Oliver Avatar
        Oliver

        Where’s Brasil?

        1. CraigTPA Avatar
          CraigTPA

          It’s still in South America last time I checked. Not sure what your point is here.

      2. 1990 Avatar
        1990

        stogieguy7, I got Andrew’s joke as more dunking on Spirit, than punching-down on immigrants.

        However, for a ‘climate scientist of 30 years,’ or so you recently admitted at VFTW, here, regrettably, you were unnecessarily harsh to Bernardo, who seems to be expressing his shock and horror at what is indeed cruelty and abuse of power in our country today.

        You oversimplified the haphazard and excessively aggressive immigration enforcement tactics ongoing in the USA under this administration; they’ve practically suspended due process, and have also wrongly round-up American citizens, too.

        And, Brazil has been doing a fine job of upholding its own laws, including to hold their former president accountable after he attempted a coup. If only we would have done the same as Brazil and South Korea for that matter.

  2. Matt D Avatar
    Matt D

    The window seat issue should be pretty open and shut. If it says “window seat”, that should mean “a seat with a window”. There shouldn’t be any ambiguity there.

    I don’t see how Uniteds pedantic hair splitting of what that verbiage may or may not mean has any merit.

    If a seat may or may not have a window, that *should* be disclosed. Truth in advertising. Well, that’s rarer than a virgin in a nightclub. I guess that’s another discussion.

    It’s really no different than rolling through a stop sign and getting ticketed for it. “Stop” means stop. A brief but complete and total cessation of movement. Not “slow down and continue if there’s no opposing traffic.” Period.

    That it took this long for anyone to make a fuss about it, perhaps THAT’S the real story.

    1. Oliver Avatar
      Oliver

      It’s close to a window. Closer than the other two seats in that same row.

      If a window is slightly misaligned with your seat, do you also deserve a special warning because you have to lean forward to look out of the window?

      1. Matt D Avatar
        Matt D

        That’s exactly the type of petulant attitude that brought this on. The absurdity here isn’t the lawsuit. It’s the underpinnings of what brought it on in the first place. Something that should be kindergarten level easy to understand.

        A page out of the Bill Clinton playbook: “Let’s clarify and define the meaning of what is is”.

        1. 1990 Avatar
          1990

          You seen those ’emails,’ something about ‘Bubba’… maybe that was the One Big Beautiful Bill, after all… *cough*

      2. CraigTPA Avatar
        CraigTPA

        “If a window is slightly misaligned with your seat, do you also deserve a special warning because you have to lean forward to look out of the window?”

        Depends on your definition of “slightly”.

        The main purpose of a having a window is being able to look out of it. Yes, on planes the window seats are also furthest from the aisle and the disturbance that comes with that, but there are a lot of people who book window seats because they want to actually enjoy the view.

        I’d think airlines has already considered this, considering there have been plenty of cases involving cruise passengers who bought outer rooms and then found the only thing they can see out the window is a lifeboat.

    2. Kilmer Avatar
      Kilmer

      Well now, I always thought that seats were described as window, middle or aisle. If you can’t call it window any more, what do you suggest?

      1. ClownDancer Avatar
        ClownDancer

        Call it Windowless window seat. Or you call it, There is no window at this seat but if there was a window it would be called a window seat

    3. XJT DX Avatar
      XJT DX

      The real solution would be to not upcharge for those seats, hence the consumer is not cheated out of anything. In reality, I wouldn’t put it past United to solve this by putting up some fake window decal on said seats. While the move would be less surprising coming from Spirit/Frontier, is it even an issue in the A320 family as it is on the 737s? I’m assuming the ‘victims’ here are those that get 11A or 12A on the 737s.

  3. cactusneedle Avatar
    cactusneedle

    Is the Vick’s joke a rerun? I’ve seen it before, not sure if it was here or elsewhere.

  4. CraigTPA Avatar
    CraigTPA

    Fingers crossed on the shutdown recovery – the last two days have looked better, although we have a DCA staffing trigger in place today. It’ll depend in part on how much the administration manages to resist punitive measures against controllers (both Duffy and Trump have threatened them.) That’ll just leave the chronic staffing issues in place at places like EWR and the much-maligned Jacksonville Center….

    I could actually see Avelo picking up a little traffic for spring training on the LAL-DTW route, you’d be surprised how many fans travel to Florida for spring training games. The rest of their non-New Haven/Wilmington (DE) route structure continues to mystify. I have to admit a little satisfaction in predicting that LAL-ISP would be a spectacular failure.

    Is the Ryanair case a new one or is MOL still throwing his toys out of the pram over COVID aid?

    And Alaska to Rome…okay, I don’t get it. Is there enough seasonal demand for both AS and DL to be on this route?

    1. tb Avatar
      tb

      No doubt the Eskimo has a LOT of brand loyalty in the PNW, and the successful co-existence (operational issues aside) of AS and DL in SEA would suggest there is in fact enough traffic for these new long-haul routes. Alaska is really making the only strategic move they can. As Delta connectivity continues to grow in their home airport, they pretty much have no choice but to grow or cede the field long-term to DL. But FCO is definitely the Ben Minicucci vanity trip LOL.

  5. MIke Avatar
    MIke

    Airtran used to fly direct MCO-ROC. Im sure nearly all of the traffic originated at one airport and not the other.

  6. Airdoc Avatar
    Airdoc

    The United window seat issue is not their fault! It’s BOEING crappy design in case of an engine fan blade failure.
    You don’t see this on Airbus products.

    1. XJT DX Avatar
      XJT DX

      Actually, the reason for the missing window is the placement of the bleed and pack air ducts. As Southwest and Jennifer Riordan unfortunately experienced, there’s no real protection from uncontained engine failure.

  7. Alex H Avatar
    Alex H

    Wait, the DHS buying Spirit 737s wasn’t parody?

    > According to the newspaper, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and senior adviser Corey Lewandowski instructed ICE officials to acquire the B737 twinjets from Spirit. However, the ultra-low-cost carrier does not operate Boeing aircraft. […] On reviewing the proposal, officials discovered that Spirit did not own the aircraft that were to be bought by the government, and that the planes lacked engines, which would need to be bought separately.

    Every time I think the current leadership of the Executive Branch can’t possibly be more incompetent, they find new ways to surprise me.

    1. CraigTPA Avatar
      CraigTPA

      Some other reports on this story had the planes as A320s or didn’t specify the airplane type. The “737” part may have just been clueless reporters who can’t tell an A380 from a DHC-6, or presumed 737s because of the coverage around the Avelo contract (even though GlobalX is providing A320s as well.)

      Until the end of September, Spirit did have some older A320s on the balance sheet as “assets for sale”. These are owned, have engines, and there was a tentative agreement to sell them in place. The agreement expired without taking place, so Spirit has reclassified them back to “held and used”.

      So it’s possible that somewhere in there, DHS did actively look at planes that were actually available for sale. The stories broke last week but the ones I read said the idea was “recently” brought up, so it’s possible the planes were available for quick purchase when the idea was first floated. Or DHS was operating on stale information. Or the planes were actually offered up by the leasing company. Or, in fact, DHS is that stupid.

      Don’t get me wrong, Noem and Lewandowski are incredibly ignorant – I’d even say willfully stupid – people. But I suspect the reporting on this story is getting facts – or at least the timeline – mangled as well.

  8. Outer Space Guy Avatar
    Outer Space Guy

    I do have such fond memories of good ole Midwest Express Airlines, and their entirely first class 2×2 layout with meals and baked on board cookies….

  9. CLT Flyer Avatar
    CLT Flyer

    And how did y’all miss the open door to rephrase “Air France’s new La Premiere debuted Monday on a flight from Paris to Miami.” to “Air France’s new La Premiere PREMIERED Monday on a flight from Paris to Miami.”

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