Cranky on the Web: American’s Fancy New 787


American’s inaugural flight on its new 787-9, internally called the 787-9P, was from Chicago to Los Angeles this week. While the airplane was on the ground at LAX on its turn, I was invited to come and take a look.

I put together two threads on Bluesky with the photos I took. First, here’s a look at all the cabins onboard. Click in to see the rest of the photos in the replies.

It was a quick turn but I was able to spend some quality time on the new American 787-9. I think the star is the new premium economy with foot and legrests plus a very generous recline

Brett Snyder (@crankyflier.com) 2025-06-05T19:26:18.508Z

What did I think? I think my first pic says it all. The new premium economy is really good. It’s a big improvement with great recline and both legrests and armrests at every seat. We’re finally getting back toward that cradle seat design that I used to love so much. I could sit in that for a long time. Everything looked good overall, but there was nothing that looks to have improved nearly as much as premium economy.

I also took a few photos of what’s going on at LAX Terrminal 4.

Greetings from LAX where I'm going to walk through American's new fancy 787. But first, construction on Terminal 4 is pretty interesting from up here on the garage

Brett Snyder (@crankyflier.com) 2025-06-05T18:07:10.946Z

It is extremely disorienting. The new ticket counters are more toward Terminal 5 than before in the new “core” that will connect to the people mover. The new security checkpoint is in between T4 and T5 and then you walk down into Terminal 4. The old security checkpoint at the head of the concourse is now gone and boarded off. Meanwhile, the middle of T4 is under construction, but the newly-built gates at the far end are open. So you have to walk back toward security, go downstairs to the arrival level tunnel, and swim upstream before you pop back up down there. I look forward to this phase of the work being completed.

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10 responses to “Cranky on the Web: American’s Fancy New 787”

  1. TooTallDaveFromDC Avatar
    TooTallDaveFromDC

    Thank you for sharing this!

    Any idea what the seat pitch will be in worst economy? What kind of routes will be served by this class of plane?

    1. MarkinCal Avatar
      MarkinCal

      I read LHR routes from ORD and maybe PHL and DFW-BNE.

    2. CF Avatar

      Pitch in the back is I think about the same as what is there today. Just fewer seats onboard.

      The routes initially are focusing on London with Chicago first up followed by Philly. Then Philly to Zurich. In the fall it goes on DFW Brisbane and I think Auckland. Eventually this will also be a Haneda airplane. This is going to follow where premium demand is highest.

      1. TooTallDaveFromDC Avatar
        TooTallDaveFromDC

        Thank you. I just saw elsewhere that worst econ pitch is 31″ in this new plane.

      2. Christian Avatar
        Christian

        AA’s app doesn’t show the new configuration to/from Zurich in November.

  2. Matt D Avatar
    Matt D

    Is LAX ever NOT going to be under construction somewhere? Or is it a sort of permanent project? As for shilling for Economy, just one question. How many people do you think will or do ever pay for something like out of pocket? Don’t almost all of those travelers either fly on someone elses expense account or redeem FF miles or credit card points or whatever? I know that’s not a distinction the airlines probably care about. But still, I’d be curious. Just think of how many airlines that are now dead might still be with us today if they had known about those ways to make money. Would it be fair to say that actual flying is now something of a loss-leader for the airlines here in 2025?

    1. TooTallDaveFromDC Avatar
      TooTallDaveFromDC

      What do you mean when you say “shilling for Economy”? Southwest economy seats were bearable for me with their 32″ pitch. They are now reconfiguring their economy sections to 31″ so they can create new fancy sections with more legroom. I paid cash for virtually all my SW economy seats over the years. Now I will have to spend cash, points, or miles for more legroom. A permanent enshittification of my travel experience.

      In the late 90’s I created a economy legroom site ranking every transatlantic flight originating out of the DC area. I did that after suffering through a flight from Dulles to Heathrow sittting in their economy section behind a short fatty. I used Claris Home Page to create that site. It was written up by the business section of the local newspaper. I suggested to the reporter that I and other too-tall people would pay more for a little more legroom. They ran that by Bob Crandall of AA, who said that customers would not pay for that, they want the cheapest seat!

      Does anyone have an idea of what portion of the various classes of seats are paid for with points etc? I’m most interested in transatlantic and domestic USA!-USA!-USA!

      I’ll also note that points, miles, etc. are not really free. I can use my Fidelity cash-back card and effortlessly get back two percent on every purchase. Increasingly, I can pay cash and not pay a 3% markup at retailers whou are not building the card processing fee into their purchase price.

  3. lavanderialarry Avatar
    lavanderialarry

    The new cabins featured on the 787-9P are a huge step up for American and for any US carrier. My only problem is the color palette. My sense is these won’t age well. Surprisingly, some folks have reported wear and tear on the Flagship seat already.

  4. AA-Platinum Avatar
    AA-Platinum

    What is the expected timing on the Terminal 4 construction (I have to fly through there in August and wondering what I’m going to be facing)?

    1. CF Avatar

      AA-Plat – I don’t actually know when this middle of T4 mess will be completed, but I would imagine that by Aug you will still be dealing with it.

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