Topic of the Week: Frontier to Provo, Knoxville, and More

Frontier announced its summer plans this week, and we have some interesting surprises as well as a big disappointment. The bad news (for me) is that Frontier is pulling out of Long Beach. Bummer. But there are some interesting new routes coming instead.

  • Provo (50 miles south of Salt Lake City) will be served once daily from Denver with an Embraer 190
  • Knoxville will be served four times a week from Denver with an Airbus A319
  • Sioux Falls will be served once daily from Denver with an Embraer 190
  • Minneapolis will be served twice daily (once on Sunday) from Kansas City with an Embraer 170 and 190
  • San Antonio will be served five times a week from Kansas City with an Embraer 190

What do you think?

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Elizabeth
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I was told that there was a baggage claim center that you can purchase lost baggage from. Is that true?

Dan
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Yes, but what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

Tim
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Are those LGB slots going to free up for someone else now?

Jason Steele
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I think F9 is staking out the leisure market with sub-daily frequencies to secondary airports and very small markets a la Allegiant. While I travel mostly for leisure, you pretty much have to be a retiree to work a vacation around a 4x weekly flight schedule that they are doing to some of these smaller destinations. Good luck to them.

Zack Rules
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Maybe B6 will pick them up. Those two slots would be perfect for Hawaii flights, one red each to Honolulu and Kahului although I think they would need an extra fuel tank.

Red
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Maybe Hawaiian Will pick them up yes they would have some issues but they could do it right?

Tim
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I think the biggest problem with Hawaiian would be getting a 767/A330 full of people through TSA and into a terminal without the fire marshal shutting them down.

Now Alaska LGB-Hawaii would be a dream come true. Look at fares this summer LAX-Hawaii, that would have to be a profitable route.

James Burke
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An E90 struck me as a pretty large plane for a route like Provo-Denver. I am wondering if the fuel economy of the E90 makes this a better choice than say using a ERJ-145. Since Republic kept some of the Q400s I thought I would see that used as well…

David SF eastbay
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With one flight a day or 4x a week they won’t get much of the business people who want lots of daily options. Provo will only work if they can get a lot of leisure people heading east or who don’t want/can’t drive to SLC.

But at least they are trying different things trying to find something that works for them.

SubwayNut
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Well if you want to fly non-stop from Long Beach to Colorado you still can on Allegiant to Colorado Springs (Denver’s alternate airport). Wonder why that flight works and not one to much larger Denver?

Sam
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Probably because Allegiant is 2x weekly (Sun/Thurs) whereas Frontier flies over 7x weekly [want to say 10x, but not positive]. If I were Frontier, I don’t think I’d give up on LGB, but maybe reduce the frequency to 4-6x weekly.

As for Provo, I’d be interested to see how that route does. Is this a subsidized route?

Hunter
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I do believe the city secured some funding to offer them a subsidy on the service.

Sam
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Figured I’d follow up on my question. This is from the 2010 Small Community Air Service Development Grant Awards:

Provo City Municipal Airport request grant amount of $500,000 with airport and community cash and in-kind contributions for $150,000 for marketing and incentive package for proposed twice daily ERJ-145 flights to Denver on Frontier with convenient beyond connections to Las Vegas, Los Angeles and San Francisco which are primary traffic drivers for the region.

Davywavy
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I think Provo is up among the interesting things the airline has done. It’s a catchment area of over half a million and – if it works – will be a valid alternative to SLC.

It’s a risk, sure, but Frontier has always been at its best when it thinks different, and at its least successful when it acts like the others.

Nobody gave tuppence for Branson – BKG – last year and that’s been gang-busters, as have several other unlikely choices.

Ian L
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Re: ERJs on F9 in DEN, I haven’t seen any. I’ve flown E70s to San Antonio and from Austin, but nothing smaller.

Also, I hear some people (not here) complaining aout EJet ervice btween point A and point B. I’m not quite sure what their issue is…as long as you aren’t deaing with slimline leather (aka Midwest uncomfortable) E70 seats (vs. more comfortable leather E70 seats) the jets are fine, an certainly better than CRJs that United may fly on the same routes. You also get Aircell WiFi, coming soonish. That’s a bigger draw for me than TV.