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		<title>Cranky on the Web (May 7 &#8211; 11)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 10:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Preview of EVA Air&#8217;s New Flat-Bed Business Class Seats &#8211; Conde Nast Traveler Here&#8217;s a look at some pics of EVA&#8217;s new flat beds in business class. Outrage over $100 carry-on bag fee &#8211; CNN I was on CNN to talk about Spirit&#8217;s $100 carry on fee, a fee which is so incredibly misunderstood [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2012/05/eva-seats-business-class-lie-flat-beds-050812">A Preview of EVA Air&#8217;s New Flat-Bed Business Class Seats</a> &#8211; <em>Conde Nast Traveler</em><br />
Here&#8217;s a look at some pics of EVA&#8217;s new flat beds in business class.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/bestoftv/2012/05/10/tsr-pkg-snow-spirit-baggage-fees.cnn">Outrage over $100 carry-on bag fee</a> &#8211; <em>CNN</em><br />
I was on CNN to talk about Spirit&#8217;s $100 carry on fee, a fee which is so incredibly misunderstood that I&#8217;m going to write about it next week.  But they made me pull off my glasses (too much glare), and then made some interesting editing choices.  Watch it here:</p>
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		<title>Topic of the Week: First Class Disappearing</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2012/04/27/topic-of-the-week-first-class-disappearing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lufthansa has said it will pull First Class off all A340s and a handful of 747s. This isn&#8217;t the first time an airline has ditched First Class. It&#8217;s happened over and over again. But when does it stop? Will first Class disappear completely? Should it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lufthansa has said it will pull First Class off all A340s and a handful of 747s.  This isn&#8217;t the first time an airline has ditched First Class.  It&#8217;s happened over and over again.  But when does it stop?  Will first Class disappear completely?  Should it?
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		<title>Thinking About Lufthansa&#8217;s New Business Class</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2012/04/19/thinking-about-lufthansas-new-business-class/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#8217;t write about Lufthansa&#8217;s new business class when it first came out, because I just wasn&#8217;t sure what to make of it. But I&#8217;ve been talking to a few people, and I think it might be a good time to discuss. I really can&#8217;t make up my mind. I think I&#8217;m going to have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t write about <a href="http://konzern.lufthansa.com/en/themen/new-business-class.html">Lufthansa&#8217;s new business class</a> when it first came out, because I just wasn&#8217;t sure what to make of it.  But I&#8217;ve been talking to a few people, and I think it might be a good time to discuss.  I really can&#8217;t make up my mind.  I think I&#8217;m going to have to wait until I can sit in the seat myself to see if it&#8217;s good or if it&#8217;s bad.</p>
<p>Without question, it has to be better than what Lufthansa has today.  This is the Lufthansa business class seat at its best today.  I say &#8220;at its best&#8221; because this is how it is on the A380, which has nicer seat coverings and amenities than the rest of the fleet:</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/5712317608/" title="Business Class Seats A380 by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3519/5712317608_31fb2ef20f.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Business Class Seats A380"></a></div>
<p>The seat is an angled lie flat bed, and while I found it pretty comfy for reclining during daylight hours, sleeping was impossible.  I was in row 1 on my overnight flight last year and somehow found myself on my stomach, all the way down with my legs kicked up on the bulkhead in the middle of the night.  It wasn&#8217;t a pretty sight.  And that&#8217;s why everyone is going away from the angled flat beds now: they suck. </p>
<p>Lufthansa told us last year it would do the same, but it wouldn&#8217;t make the change until the 747-8 came out.  With that airplane going into service very soon, Lufthansa last month decided to unwrap the details on the new business class.  Here&#8217;s the new offering:</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6945014564/" title="New Lufthansa Business Class by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5231/6945014564_51e4dedb58.jpg" width="500" height="253" alt="New Lufthansa Business Class"></a></div>
<p>At first glance, it certainly looks nice.  I like the colors and the wood paneling.  I&#8217;m also very happy to know that it&#8217;s a fully flat bed, as expected.  But there are a couple of things that stand out.  First is that it&#8217;s not a very private offering.  I&#8217;m actually ok with that, but it&#8217;s very different than what you&#8217;ll find on some other airlines out there.  Second, you have to climb over someone if you&#8217;re in the window.  Many airlines have gone out of their way to give direct aisle access while Lufthansa apparently has decided that isn&#8217;t necessary.</p>
<p>Third is the angled nature of the seat.  No, the bed isn&#8217;t angled toward the floor, but you can see that the seats angle in toward the middle.  So the aisle seat is pointed toward the window while the window seat is pointed toward the aisle.  It doesn&#8217;t look like it&#8217;s so angled that you&#8217;ll have a stare down with your neighbor, but it&#8217;s still odd.  I get why they did this &#8211; it gives you more space around your shoulders where you notice it the most.  That&#8217;s good, but it has a consequence.</p>
<p>The strangest part about it is where your feet go.  Look at this picture:</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/7091082661/" title="New Lufthansa Business Class Looking Forward by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5448/7091082661_877cd4ddeb.jpg" width="500" height="354" alt="New Lufthansa Business Class Looking Forward"></a></div>
<p>When the bed is fully extended, you&#8217;re just a thin piece of plastic away from playing footsie with your neighbor.  That&#8217;s pretty close, but is it going to be annoying?  I&#8217;m just not sure without having been in the seat itself.</p>
<p>I tend to think the most annoying part would be having the person in the window seat trying to get out by doing airplane gymnastics over the aisle seat.  But I&#8217;m also concerned about the amount of private space.</p>
<p>You can <a href="http://presse.lufthansa.com/en/media-library/photo-library.html">see more new business class photos on the Lufthansa site</a> (where I pulled these from).  I just don&#8217;t know about this one.  But I do hear the 747-8 will be coming to LAX as one of the first three markets, so hopefully I&#8217;ll have a chance to sneak onboard while it&#8217;s on a layover and check it out.
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		<title>American Rolls Out Its Version of Economy Plus, er Economy Comfort, er  . . .</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2012/03/06/american-rolls-out-its-version-of-economy-plus-er-economy-comfort-er/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When it first started talking about the interiors of its new 777-300ER aircraft, American said it would have a premium economy section. I secretly hoped that it would be the first true premium economy cabin in the US, but we later learned that it would be a coach section with more legroom just like Delta&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it first started talking about the interiors of its new 777-300ER aircraft, American said it would have a premium economy section.  I secretly <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6957603433/" title="More Room In Parts of Coach by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img style="margin: 5px 0 5px 5px; float:right;" src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7188/6957603433_62f5b06b07_m.jpg" width="207" height="135" alt="More Room In Parts of Coach"></a>hoped that it would be the first true premium economy cabin in the US, but we later learned that it would be a coach section with more legroom just like Delta&#8217;s and United&#8217;s.  Now, we have more details on the product, and there&#8217;s really nothing too exciting and different here.  It&#8217;s all rather expected.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsroom/fp_main_cabin_extra.jsp?anchorLocation=NewsroomHomeBanner1&#038;reportedTitle=AMERICAN%20AIRLINES%20CONTINUES%20FLEET%20MODERNIZATION%20WITH%20PLANS%20FOR%20MAIN%20CABIN%20EXTRA&#038;reportedPosition=0&#038;url=undefined&#038;_locale=en_US&#038;repositoryName=undefined&#038;repositoryId=undefined">American will introduce Main Cabin Extra</a> this year, and it will be basically be the same thing as United&#8217;s Economy Plus and Delta&#8217;s Economy Comfort.  The seats will simply be coach seats with four to six inches more legroom.  So is this news?  Well, sort of.  I mean, it&#8217;s news that American is doing it, but there&#8217;s nothing really new here.  </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a carbon copy of the United and Delta programs.  There are a few subtle differences.</p>
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<th>American
<th>Delta
<th>United</p>
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<td>Free with Full Fare Coach?
<td>Yes
<td>Yes (Y/B/M)
<td>No</p>
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<td>Free for top tier elites?
<td>Yes
<td>Yes
<td>Yes</p>
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<td>Free for entry tier elites?
<td>For Gold until end of 2013
<td>25 to 50% discount for Gold/Silver
<td>For Silver free at check-in only</p>
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<td>Additional recline?
<td>Not stated
<td>On international aircraft
<td>No</p>
<tr>
<td>Priority boarding?
<td>Yes
<td>Yes
<td>No</p>
<tr>
<td>Free drink?
<td>No (but already free for long haul coach)
<td>On international flights
<td>No<br />
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<p>The onboard product is really just more legroom on all three airlines.  In a way, I&#8217;m glad to see that American is finally deciding to join the ranks of the other legacy carriers in the US with a premium economy section, but on the other hand, I&#8217;m kind of bummed they didn&#8217;t try to do something more.  International airlines have worked hard to create a true premium economy cabin &#8211; different seats, meals, etc.  No US-based airline has done that, and I had hoped that American might leap ahead of the rest.  It didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It is kind of funny to think about this.  American was ahead of the curve when it rolled out <em>More Room Throughout Coach</em> many years ago.  In that plan, everyone got extra legroom.  United opted for Economy Plus where it was just a small cabin, and that turned out to be the right way to go.  American led with a bold plan that was ultimately a failure because you&#8217;ll never get everyone onboard to pay more for extra legroom.  But at least it led.  Now, it&#8217;s the last of the big three to add this offering and it&#8217;s not leading in any way.</p>
<p>I shouldn&#8217;t get down on American for this.  It&#8217;s better to have this type of cabin than nothing at all, and it does give American the ability to sell this type of offering on its flights while British Airways sells a true premium economy product.  But I can&#8217;t help it.  American keeps talking about how it&#8217;s going to really invest in its product and do something amazing when really it&#8217;s just continuing to play catch-up.</p>
<p>For those who are looking forward to taking advantage of these seats, you&#8217;ll have to wait awhile in most cases.  The 777-300ERs will have the extra legroom section upon delivery.  New aircraft deliveries of 737s starting this fall will also have it, but the rest of the fleet will take a long 18 months before it&#8217;s outfitted.  No other timeline was given regarding when certain fleets would be done, but hopefully more info will be shared eventually.
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		<title>Cranky on the Web (January 30 &#8211; February 3)</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2012/02/04/cranky-on-the-web-january-30-february-3/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why Spirit Airlines Is Right &#8211; Conde Nast Daily Traveler Admittedly, this post was meant to stir the pot up a little. I do see merit in what Spirit is doing in fighting the feds on one hand, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I think the rule should necessarily disappear. Still, fun to look at it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2012/01/spirit-airlines-right-about-government-regulations-hidden-taxes">Why Spirit Airlines Is Right</a> &#8211; <em>Conde Nast Daily Traveler</em><br />
Admittedly, this post was meant to stir the pot up a little.  I do see merit in what Spirit is doing in fighting the feds on one hand, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I think the rule should necessarily disappear.  Still, fun to look at it from Spirit&#8217;s side.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2012/01/american-airlines-new-business-class-first-class-photos">The Pros and Cons of American Airlines&#8217;s New First Class and Business Class</a> &#8211; <em>Conde Nast Daily Traveler</em><br />
Just a little piece on American&#8217;s new 777 interiors.  Not much more than what I wrote about here.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.cheapflights.com/waiting-to-board-with-brett-snyder/">Waiting to board with Brett Snyder</a> &#8211; <em>Cheapflights.com Waiting to Board</em><br />
I did an interview with Cheapflights talking about the blog and some travel tips.
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		<title>American (Too) Quietly Announces Premium Economy, Flat Beds, and More Awesomeness</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week, all the talk was about American filing for bankruptcy. That announcement mostly buried what should have been a much bigger and more exciting announcement than it was. American is doing some great things on its new 777s, but it&#8217;s barely talking about it. The silence makes you wonder if the airline just started [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, all the talk was about <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/11/30/americans-decade-of-fail-culminates-in-bankruptcy/">American filing for bankruptcy</a>.  That announcement mostly buried what should have been a much bigger and more exciting announcement than it was.  <a href="http://aa.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&#038;item=3401">American is doing some great things on its new 777s</a>, but it&#8217;s barely talking about it.  The silence makes you wonder if the airline just started talking about to in order to counter the bad news and not because it was ready.</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6474666233/" title="American's New 777-300 Stays Under Wraps by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6474666233_ea70c71159.jpg" width="500" height="329" alt="American's New 777-300 Stays Under Wraps"></a></div>
<p>American started by ordering a couple of the 777-300ER aircraft awhile back, but it has now grown the order to include 10 airplanes.  This will be the new flagship of the international fleet, which currently comprises 777-200s, 767-300s, and some 757-200s.  Service starts next year to London, but that&#8217;s all we know.  What&#8217;s so special about this airplane, which will have the most seats and longest range in the fleet?</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Wi-Fi capability to keep customers connected while traveling internationally&#8221;</strong><br />
American has domestic wifi, but it hasn&#8217;t talked about international wi-fi at all up until now.  American wouldn&#8217;t comment on who would provide wifi.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;walk-up bar stocked with snacks and refreshments in the premium cabin will be a first for any U.S. airline &#8220;</strong><br />
Most US airlines haven&#8217;t been able to justify using space for a bar instead of just having more seats, but apparently American now feels otherwise.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Entertainment options including up to 120 movies, more than 150 TV programs and more than 350 audio selections&#8221;</strong><br />
You can get audio/video on demand in the premium cabins, but the 767s and 757s still have overhead screens in coach.  The 777s have looping movies in-seat, which is slightly better, but it&#8217;s nothing compared to what the new 777-300s will have.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;every seat will feature individual 110 volt AC power outlets and USB jacks&#8221;</strong><br />
Today, most of American&#8217;s international fleet has those cigarette lighter power ports that require adapters in the premium cabin.  In coach, some airplanes have random seats with scattered access to power, but most have nothing.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;feature an updated and enhanced version of the customer-favorite Flagship Suite seat that transforms into a fully lie flat six-foot, eight-inch bed with drop-down armrests that allow for easier access and more sleeping space&#8221;</strong><br />
The 757s and 767s don&#8217;t have First Class, but the 777s do.  This will just be an updated and improved version of that.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Business Class cabin will also be outfitted with fully lie flat seats – all with aisle access&#8221;</strong><br />
Today, American offers that uncomfortable angled lie-flat seat that was obsolete the day it was announced.  The airline is finally going to go to what I assume to be a truly flat bed.  I say that I assume it&#8217;s flat, because the terminology used (&#8220;fully lie flat&#8221;) is a mix of the traditional &#8220;lie flat&#8221; (which means angled) and &#8220;fully flat&#8221; (which means fully flat).  I couldn&#8217;t get any other information.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;monitor positioned in each Business Class suite&#8221;</strong><br />
The angled lie flat beds the airline has today uses a portable unit that&#8217;s fitted into a bracket on the seat.  So American is getting rid of that and going back to an embedded system.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Seats throughout Economy Class will have a higher recline pivot, providing increased knee room. The seat bottom will articulate&#8221;</strong><br />
This could go one of two ways.  Cathay Pacific went with the seat that reclines into itself, and, well, <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2010/10/15/cathay-pacific-expected-to-replace-pain-inducing-coach-seats/">people hate it with a passion</a>.  But the idea isn&#8217;t a bad one, if it&#8217;s done right.  Will this be done right?</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;American will also offer an Economy Class premium seat product, which will include additional legroom for seats in the forward portion of the cabin&#8221;</strong><br />
With United having Economy Plus and Delta having a similar Economy Comfort offering, it&#8217;s not a surprise that American is trying this.  But will the seat be any different?  Will the service be any different?  Beats me.  No other info was given, though it sounds like it will probably be the same seat.</p>
<p>Reading this, you probably have the same first question I did . . . .  Will American roll this out to the rest of the fleet?  No clue.  I also found out there are no pictures available, and there are really no other details to be had.  This announcement, full of tremendously interesting yet incomplete news, has to stand on its own for now.  Bummer.</p>
<p>Other than the press release, I did see an email was sent to AAdvantage members, but there hasn&#8217;t been much media coverage.  Why?  No pictures and not a ton of details.  Why would you announce such major enhancements like that if you&#8217;re American?  This is a big deal, and it makes American at least competitive and at best a true leader when compared to its other US competitors.  The lack of additional information just seems so strange.</p>
<p>Anyone else have any info about this?  Because it sounds fantastic, assuming it happens.</p>
<p>[<em>Hangar photo via Flickr user <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pagedooley/4391434321/">kevin dooley</a>/<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en">CC 2.0</a></em>]
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		<title>Cranky on the Web (November 21 &#8211; 25)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taking First-Class Coddling Above and Beyond &#8211; The New York Times I was quoted in a front page article talking about First Class on long haul flights. More importantly, Geoff Fischer was interviewed about his write-up on Cranky of his Cathay Pacific experience. Air travel tax could pinch small cities &#8211; CNN Out of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/21/business/taking-first-class-coddling-above-and-beyond.html">Taking First-Class Coddling Above and Beyond</a> &#8211; <em>The New York Times</em><br />
I was quoted in a front page article talking about First Class on long haul flights.  More importantly, Geoff Fischer was interviewed about his <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/10/26/best-flight-ever-first-class-on-the-cathay-pacific-777-300-guest-trip-report/">write-up on Cranky of his Cathay Pacific experience</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/21/travel/air-travel-taxes/index.html">Air travel tax could pinch small cities</a> &#8211; <em>CNN Out of the Office</em><br />
I wrote about this on Cranky fairly recently, but I wrote another one about the air travel tax proposal.  I believe this is dead for now since the Super Committee failed to reach any agreement this week, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it won&#8217;t come back.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RUgfLQNbok">The Qantas Labor Issue</a> &#8211; <em>CNN International World Report</em><br />
CNN International had me on to talk about the Qantas labor fight, and I was off my game.  Definitely take note of the hilarious stone-faced response from the anchor after my phone accidentally goes off.  (Thanks for the call, Justin . . . punk.)</p>
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<p><a href="http://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2011-11-22/friendlier-skies-airline-passenger-rights">Friendlier Skies? Airline Passenger Rights</a> &#8211; <em>The Kojo Nnamdi Show</em><br />
If you have some time, take a listen to this hour-long segment from the Kojo Show on DC public radio.  We get into some good discussion about passenger rights.  The one thing I wish I had been able to respond to was Charlie&#8217;s mention that airlines won&#8217;t give travel agencies and online travel agents access to their fees.  That&#8217;s not true.  Fees are readily available.  If <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Flights">TripAdvisor</a> can integrate fee information, why can&#8217;t others?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2011/11/Free-Checked-Bag-Legislation-is-Stupid">Free Checked Bag Legislation is Stupid</a> &#8211; <em>Conde Nast Daily Traveler</em><br />
I love when my editor gets to the point with titles.  The latest proposal from Senator Landrieu (D-LA) to require a free checked bag is just so wrong.
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		<title>My Imaginary Discussion on Delta&#8217;s New Domestic Economy Comfort Class</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week, Delta announced that it would bring its version of United&#8217;s Economy Plus, Economy Comfort to most of its fleet. This sounds like great news, and it is for just about everyone. When something like this happens, it can&#8217;t be completely good, however. So, who would look at this with the harshest eye? Potentially [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, Delta announced that it would bring its version of United&#8217;s Economy Plus, <a href="http://blog.delta.com/2011/10/20/more-economy-comfort-means-more-room-to-relax/">Economy Comfort to most of its fleet</a>.  This sounds like great news, and it is for just about everyone.  When something like this happens, it can&#8217;t be completely good, however.  </p>
<p>So, who would look at this with the harshest eye?  Potentially an entry level Delta elite frequent flier out of Atlanta.  I&#8217;m not sure why, but I have this enduring image of a stereotypical Delta elite who looks like Colonel Sanders and sounds like Foghorn Leghorn.  Ridiculous?  Sure.  But then I started playing out an interview with Colonel Leghorn in my warped little mind on Economy Comfort.  Here it is.</p>
<p><strong>Colonel Leghorn</strong>  I say, I say, what&#8217;s happenin&#8217; here?<br />
<strong>Cranky:</strong>  Well, last summer, <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/02/08/delta-rolls-out-premium-economy-on-long-haul-flights/">Delta decided to introduce <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6278353252/" title="The Ultimate Delta Frequent Flier by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img style="margin: 5px 0 5px 5px; float:right;" src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6224/6278353252_14376987e4_m.jpg" width="179" height="240" alt="The Ultimate Delta Frequent Flier"></a>Economy Comfort seats to international flights</a>.  Like United&#8217;s Economy Plus, it mostly meant a few extra inches of legroom in the same exact seat as you&#8217;d find in regular coach.  But it also came with extra recline, priority boarding, and free drinks.  Not a bad proposition, and apparently it worked well.  Now, Delta will bring the offering to its domestic fleet &#8211; <a href="http://blog.delta.com/2011/10/20/more-economy-comfort-means-more-room-to-relax/">any jet with more than 50 seats on it will have Economy Comfort</a>.  This will be in place for travel beginning next summer (though you might get lucky and snag some legroom before then on a converted airplane).</p>
<p><strong>The Colonel:</strong>  Internat&#8217;nal Economy Comfort ain&#8217;t bad, I guess, since I&#8217;ll never spring for an M fare to upgrade to Business Class.  Is this the same thing?<br />
<strong>Cranky:</strong>  Not quite.  If you purchase a domestic Economy Comfort seat, you&#8217;ll get more legroom.  You&#8217;ll also get priority boarding.  Neither of those change.  But you won&#8217;t get any more recline (Delta says it&#8217;s because on shorter flights, people need to work while on longer flights they need to sleep) and you won&#8217;t get free drinks.</p>
<p><strong>The Colonel:</strong>  I&#8217;m a drunk, so that&#8217;s just downright unpleasant.  But I say, I still love my legroom.  How do I get it?<br />
<strong>Cranky:</strong>  If you were a Diamond, Platinum, or Gold Medallion member, you&#8217;d get it for free.  But since you&#8217;re just a Silver Medallion, you get a 50 percent discount if you buy in advance or you get it free at the time of check-in (if available).  Full fare passengers get it included as well (something that United took away years ago).  Everyone else can just pay up if they want it.  It&#8217;s $19 to $99 each way.</p>
<p><strong>The Colonel:</strong>  What in tarnation?!  I deserve to get for free, I say.  So my Kentucky Fried Travel Agent can just reserve it for me, right?<br />
<strong>Cranky:</strong>  Not so much.  It can only be done directly through Delta, whether online, at a kiosk, or over the phone.</p>
<p><strong>The Colonel:</strong>  I&#8217;m not thrilled, son, but I only plan on reserving those seats if my much-deserved and never paid-for upgrade fails to come through.  Wait, they aren&#8217;t cuttin&#8217; First Class, are they?<br />
<strong>Cranky:</strong>  On most airplanes, the number of First Class seats won&#8217;t change, but that&#8217;s not the case everywhere.  You elites who love your upgrades won&#8217;t be thrilled if you&#8217;re on an A320.  According to Delta spokesperson Chris Kelly, A320s will lose &#8220;a few&#8221; First Class seats.  I take that to mean 4 of the 16 seats will disappear.  Any more than that and there will be mutiny.  If you saw the <a href="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-skymiles/1271143-delta-expands-popular-economy-comfort-brand-3.html">post on FlyerTalk with the proposed configurations</a>, ignore it.  They aren&#8217;t right, and the MD-90 will not be losing First Class seats as noted there.</p>
<p><strong>The Colonel:</strong>  Son of a biscuit.  Guess I won&#8217;t be flying A320s anymore.  But what if there are too many higher elites and my upgrade fails to come through?  Are there are a lot of these Comfort seats for me to sit in?<br />
<strong>Cranky:</strong>  Delta says the first 3 to 5 rows of coach will be Economy Comfort.  That means 12 to 20 on a big regional jet, 15 to 25 on an MD-80/90, and 18 to 30 on an A319/A320/737/757 aircraft.  That&#8217;s less than United, which has 50 seats on a 757 and even 28 on the big regional jet.  But it&#8217;s better than nothing.</p>
<p><strong>The Colonel:</strong>  That ain&#8217;t good, especially if them other elites get &#8216;em first.  But what if the worst thing I could possibly imagine happens, and I get stuck in Economy Discomfort with the rest of the chickens?  I will, I say, yell at the nearest gate agent and remind him how important I am.<br />
<strong>Cranky:</strong>  It shouldn&#8217;t be much different than today, though we&#8217;ll see exactly what happens.  Delta says that regular coach seat pitch won&#8217;t change and that the legroom will come by &#8220;removing a negligible number of seats from the current cabin configuration.&#8221;  Not sure what a negligible number is, but hey, we&#8217;ll find out soon enough.  The airline can also move &#8220;monuments&#8221; around &#8211; galleys, lavs, etc &#8211; to try to squeeze out some more room.  Not sure if that&#8217;s the plan, but it would make some sense.  Lastly, if you <a href="http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&#038;item=1476">look at the press release</a>, it&#8217;s clearly stated that &#8220;Delta&#8217;s standard Economy Class seat pitch is currently 31 inches.&#8221;  According to <a href="http://www.seatguru.com">SeatGuru</a>, however, the A319 has 30-32&#8243; pitch, the 737s have 31-32&#8243; pitch, and 757s show 31-33&#8243; pitch.  Something tells me the days of 32 or 33&#8243; pitch may be gone as a way to make room.</p>
<p><strong>The Colonel:</strong>  I guess this sounds fine and dandy, but I&#8217;ll still tell Delta that I&#8217;m not getting rewarded enough for flying on really cheap tickets.  I&#8217;ll just threaten to leave and then forget, I say, forget to actually do it.  Besides, where will I go?  With AirTran goin&#8217; all-coach and cuttin&#8217; seat assignments when it gets eaten up by Southwest, that airline simply ain&#8217;t an option for this big bird.<br />
<strong>Cranky:</strong>  You said it, Colonel, not me.
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		<title>Topic of the Week: United Keeps First Class, At Least on Some Airplanes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds like the new United is keeping First Class, but maybe only on the airplanes that already have it. Bloomberg reports that United has decided to keep First Class on some of its fleet but not all. So, is this a good move? Do they just want to avoid reconfiguring airplanes? Does it make [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like the new <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-31/united-bucks-industry-in-keeping-first-class-cabins-after-merger.html">United is keeping First Class</a>, but maybe only on the airplanes that already have it.  Bloomberg reports that United has decided to keep First Class on some of its fleet but not all.  So, is this a good move?  Do they just want to avoid reconfiguring airplanes?  Does it make sense?  What do you think?
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		<title>Cranky on the Web (May 23 &#8211; 27)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 10:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The elusive hunt for legroom on planes &#8211; CNN Out of the Office This week, I take a look at legroom on airplanes and why seat pitch is a crappy measure. In the Trenches: Planning for Turnover &#8211; Intuit Small Business Blog I&#8217;m sadly losing one of my concierges in a couple weeks, and this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/05/23/snyder.plane.legroom/">The elusive hunt for legroom on planes</a> &#8211; <em>CNN Out of the Office</em><br />
This week, I take a look at legroom on airplanes and why seat pitch is a crappy measure.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.intuit.com/employees/in-the-trenches-planning-for-turnover/">In the Trenches: Planning for Turnover</a> &#8211; <em>Intuit Small Business Blog</em><br />
I&#8217;m sadly losing one of my concierges in a couple weeks, and this time I&#8217;m far better prepared.
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