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		<title>Large and In Charge (and Cramped)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It probably won&#8217;t come as a shock to anyone that people have grown wider in the last 50 years. Now there&#8217;s research to prove it, but is it really that big of a deal for the airline industry? SizeUK performed the survey on behalf of First Choice, a UK based tour operator. The results are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/69857414@N00/336643661/" title="Photo Sharing"><img style="border: 0pt none ; margin: 0pt 5px; float: left;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/139/336643661_719e469922_o.jpg" alt="fat" height="151" width="199" /></a>It probably won&#8217;t come as a shock to anyone that people have grown wider in the last 50 years. Now there&#8217;s research to prove it, but is it really that big of a deal for the airline industry?</p>
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<div><a href="http://www.size.org/">SizeUK</a> performed the survey on behalf of First Choice, a UK based tour operator. The results are reported in this Telegraph article, complete with the extremely embarrassing and totally unnecessary picture on the left.</p>
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<div>Now before we get into details, keep in mind that First Choice offers what they consider to be a healthy 17.8&#8243; of width on 3/4 of its aircraft, so this study could have been biased to make them look good.</p>
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<div>In short, it says that the average man today is 16.5&#8243; in width at his shoulders while the average woman is 14.5&#8243; at the shoulders. This means that 2/3 of all men are wider at the shoulders than the average airline coach seat width of 16&#8243;.</p>
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<div>Whoa &#8211; hold on there. There aren&#8217;t too many airline coach seats at 16&#8243; wide that I know of. Maybe in the UK charter world that&#8217;s standard, but in our database at PriceGrabber on seat dimensions, I show very few with seat width of less than 17&#8243; at all. In fact, just a couple of small props, a few seats on some US Airways aircraft, and most of ANA&#8217;s fleet fall below 17&#8243;. The average is somewhere between 17 and 18&#8243; as far as I can tell.</p>
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<div>I would actually be surprised if 16&#8243; was standard anywhere, because cabin width is determined by aircraft manufacturers and that is mostly what drive seat width. Think about it &#8211; have you ever seen seven seats across on a 737? No, because the seats would fall well below the range of comfort. It&#8217;s not like you could go from 17&#8243; to 16&#8243; and fit an extra seat &#8211; you&#8217;d have to go much narrower than that, and it just won&#8217;t happen. Sure, you could put five across, but then you lose so many seats that fares would have to go up dramatically. You&#8217;re better off just making people who can&#8217;t fit in one seat take two instead.</p>
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<div>Oh, and even if the average seat width was 16&#8243;, that certainly doesn&#8217;t mean that a person with 16.5&#8243; shoulders couldn&#8217;t fit. There is generally more shoulder width available while you&#8217;re there.</div>
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<div>Women do have a tougher time according to the study because their hips have grown 1.5&#8243; in the last 50 years and now 1/5 of all women are uncomfortable in a 16&#8243; seat. Well, again, we don&#8217;t see too many 16&#8243; seats so it&#8217;s a much smaller percentage of people who are affected here.</p>
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<div>If people continue to get larger, this could be problematic, but for now, it just isn&#8217;t news. The idea of widening seats for a small handful of people just doesn&#8217;t make sense, especially when most seats are at least 17&#8243; wide.</p>
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<div>For those who truly cannot fit in a seat, there are options. (And no &#8211; squeezing yourself into a narrow seat and making you and the person sitting next to you uncomfortable is NOT one of them.)</p>
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<div>Most airlines in the US will allow you to take up two seats for free as long as the plane isn&#8217;t full. If the plane is full, you would have to buy a second seat or standby until there&#8217;s a flight with an extra seat available. Or, if money isn&#8217;t an issue, there&#8217;s always first class . . . .</div>
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