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		<title>American Leaks More Details on Its New 777 Interiors</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When American announced it would roll out a slew of new features on its new 777-300ER aircraft in December, I was left with more questions than answers. Now, just a bit more info has been released, and we have some answers but not all. Oh, and we have pictures. A picture of the new First [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When American announced it would roll out a slew of <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/12/08/american-too-quietly-announces-premium-economy-flat-beds-and-more-awesomeness/">new features on its new 777-300ER aircraft</a> in December, I was left with more questions than answers.  Now, just a bit more info has been released, and <a href="http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsroom/fp_777_300er_interior.jsp">we have some answers</a> but not all.  Oh, and we have pictures.</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6780184957/" title="American 777-300ER First Class by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6780184957_2e73e78b9b.jpg" width="500" height="281" alt="American 777-300ER First Class"></a></div>
<p>A picture of the new First Class cabin shows that it&#8217;s not much different than what&#8217;s out there today.  It&#8217;s just cleaned up, new fabric, etc.  That&#8217;s ok, because much of a change wasn&#8217;t necessary.  In Business Class, however, it&#8217;s a different story.</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6780183865/" title="American 777-300ER Biz Class by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7163/6780183865_8dce1b917f.jpg" width="500" height="304" alt="American 777-300ER Biz Class"></a></div>
<p>As you can see, American is using the same reverse-herringbone style of seat that US Airways has on its airplanes.  (Calm down, conspiracy theorists.  This has nothing to do with a potential merger between the two.)  We can now be sure that the &#8220;fully lie flat&#8221; seats are going to be flat beds.  Whew.</p>
<p>There are also a few things we can glean from the new coach seats.</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6780183681/" title="American 777-300ER Coach Class by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6780183681_2fa7da9e8e.jpg" width="500" height="383" alt="American 777-300ER Coach Class"></a></div>
<p>The above picture shows coach seating, and American confirms that there will be a premium economy section with the exact same seats but more legroom.  It&#8217;s like American is bringing back &#8220;<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-10-20-more-seats_x.htm">More Room Throughout Coach</a>,&#8221; but not actually throughout coach.  </p>
<p>In this picture, there are at least 4 seats uninterrupted by an aisle.  That can mean one of two things.  It could mean that American is sticking with the 2-5-2 configuration that it has on its 777-200s, but that would be surprising.  Most airlines have moved away from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 instead because it requires fewer video power units and it allows for standardized seat sets.  (United has switched to 3-3-3 as it renovates its 777 fleet.)</p>
<p>But this can&#8217;t be 3-3-3 because there are four together.  That would most likely mean that American is moving to the increasingly popular 3-4-3 layout.  I say  &#8220;increasingly popular,&#8221; but I mean that only on the airline side.  Passengers hate it because, naturally, it means narrower seats.  That hasn&#8217;t stopped several airlines from going this route, so it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to see American do the same.</p>
<p>We could try to do some math to figure out the number of seats across if American would release its planned configuration on the airplane, but it won&#8217;t.  My requests were met with the response that no further information is being given at this time.  What&#8217;s with all the secrecy?  I don&#8217;t understand why they want to keep pushing out dribs and drabs of info.</p>
<p>Anything else we know?  Yep.  American had been saying that London would be the first to get the new 777-300ER, but now that&#8217;s not happening.  The first market will now be Dallas/Ft Worth to Sao Paulo.  This market is apparently doing so well for American that it&#8217;s throwing a ton of capacity into it.  In June, the market goes from a daily flight to 12 weekly.  And then in December, the 777-300ER will go on to the route, bringing even more capacity to the market.</p>
<p>I suppose we shouldn&#8217;t be surprised that Latin America gets it first.  After all, that&#8217;s really where American excels.  It&#8217;s almost non-existent in Asia, it&#8217;s pretty weak in Europe, but it is the king of Latin.  Stick to your strengths, right?
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		<title>The Emirates 777 and A380 Head to Head (Trip Report) (Guest Post)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I decided to hold the last Emirates post from Nate until I was on paternity leave. You can see his report on the flight out to Dubai, Dubai Airport, and the flight back if you haven&#8217;t seen them. &#8211; Probably the best thing about my trip to Dubai was building an itinerary that put me [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I decided to hold the last Emirates post from Nate until I was on paternity leave.  You can see his report on the <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/11/09/flying-up-front-on-emirates-to-dubai-trip-report/">flight out to Dubai</a>, <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/11/16/wandering-dubai-airport-trip-report/">Dubai Airport</a>, and the <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/11/23/business-class-on-the-emirates-a380-back-to-the-us-trip-report/">flight back</a> if you haven&#8217;t seen them.</em><br />
&#8211;<br />
Probably the best thing about my trip to Dubai was building an itinerary that put me on the Boeing 777-300ER one way and the Airbus A380 the other.  Not many travelers have a keen sense of their surroundings when they fly, so this presented a great opportunity to discuss the differences in the two aircraft as Emirates expands and offers both types on routes.  I <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/11/09/flying-up-front-on-emirates-to-dubai-trip-report/">flew the 777 out of San Francisco for 15 hours to Dubai</a> in Business and First Class, and then <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2011/11/23/business-class-on-the-emirates-a380-back-to-the-us-trip-report/">returned to New York JFK from Dubai on the A380</a> in Business Class.  I found some fairly interesting differences in the two planes the way Emirates configures them.</p>
<p><strong>Seating layout/arrangements</strong><br />
The 777 was in a typical 2-3-2 layout while the A380 had a very interested staggered layout of 1-2-1.  Some rows had window seats with a small walkway to the aisle and others had an aisle with no seat in the window.  The middle section either had two seats next to each other or two sitting on the aisle separated.  The seats then rotate their position, giving each customer access to the aisle.  This was a very nice feature as the A380 gives customers much more overall &#8220;area&#8221; for their individual seat, whereas the 777 you still had a neighbor – and the privacy screen really didn&#8217;t block much.  </p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6575833871/" title="Emirates A380 vs 777 Business Class Seats by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6575833871_d4139a62b6.jpg" width="500" height="241" alt="Emirates A380 vs 777 Business Class Seats"></a></div>
<p>I could still watch my neighbor&#8217;s TV for most of my flight.  I did select the bulkhead on the 777 and I had more wiggle room to get in and out, but the A380 still wins hands down.  The 777&#8242;s &#8220;traditional&#8221; layout is much better if you are traveling with a group of friends or family, as the A380 seems to be designed more for the solo traveler.  The other downside to BOTH aircraft is the aisle seats – there is still traffic up and down the aisle, so there&#8217;s a risk of getting interrupted while trying to sleep.  </p>
<p><strong>Service</strong><br />
One problem Emirates faces with the A380 is that there are a LOT of flight attendants . . . 26 to be exact.  The Business Class galley is located in the back of the cabin, so you get a lot of foot traffic.  While that can be nice (always someone going by that can you something) it did take time to do a full service for the 55 passengers (out of 76) in my cabin.  I also can’t tell you the name of the flight attendant assigned to my section.  The 777 provided excellent service as only 2 or 3 flight attendants worked my side of the airplane and I can remember their names.  Overall, the 777 service seemed much more efficient.</p>
<p><strong>Boarding/Deplaning</strong><br />
One would think boarding 500 people on an A380 would take awhile, but Emirates seemed to have this one down pat.  Most of us in Business Class were in the lounge up until about 30 minutes before departure and found a short line for the premium cabins versus economy.  In the A380, I didn&#8217;t see a single economy class customer.  On the 777, while we had separate lines, we boarded through the same jet bridge.  There was a lot of foot traffic through the 777 cabin while boarding, but the flight attendants kept the economy customers moving through, and were able to serve a pre-departure champagne service without any issues.  Deplaning was equally fast, as Emirates holds back each respective cabin until those passengers are clear, and in New York we deplaned by the 2nd level.  Its hard to pick the 777 or the A380 has both were very efficient.</p>
<p><strong>Sleep</strong><br />
The A380 has a fully flat bed while it&#8217;s an angled lie flat bed on the 777.  Both seats appear to be the same design and configuration except for the footrest on the A380.  On the 777, your seat drops then extends out, and at 6&#8217;1&#8243; I slept like a baby.  I also really enjoyed the storage space/cut outs in the seat that also meant I had shoulder room.  The A380 had a cubby hole for feet which probably helped keep rusty-sock smell from the cabin.  But on the 777, it was hard to tell you weren&#8217;t lying completely flat.  I&#8217;d also like to point out that I departed San Francisco at 5p and arrived in Dubai at 7p (next day) and did not feel jetlagged.  I only preferred the A380 seat over the 777 because I didn’t have someone directly beside me.</p>
<p><strong>Economy Class</strong><br />
Here&#8217;s where it can get painful.  </p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/6575833781/" title="Emirates A380 vs 777 Coach Legroom by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6575833781_9ac5e9204d.jpg" width="500" height="188" alt="Emirates A380 vs 777 Coach Legroom"></a></div>
<p>The 777 was originally designed for 9 seats across the cabin, but Emirates has 10.  So your butt and shoulders may be making contact with your seatmate for the next 13 hours.  At least your knees and feet will be comfortable, as Emirates provides a few more inches of legroom.  The A380 has standard seat width, but the legroom isn&#8217;t nearly as good as on the 777.  In the row I tried out on the A380, the window felt a little more cramped.   Both Economy cabins offer in seat video and universal and USB power ports, so even if you are stuck in the 777 in coach, you will still have plenty to keep you busy.</p>
<p>Here are some more pieces for comparison.</p>
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<th>A380
<th>777</p>
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<td>Tray table
<td>Fixed position, comes from under work area, or you can use the side table by the in-seat bar.  I didn&#8217;t like the tray table so I kept it retracted.
<td>Slides up from side, can adjust position to you (can slide up to a foot from the base) which is nice if you are &#8220;larger&#8221; or want to recline while you eat.  I was able to function a lot easier with the movable tray.</p>
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<td>Windows
<td>Not the easiest to look out, had lots of space due to angled upper deck, unlike the 747-400, larger window.
<td>standard 777 windows – had 3 of them – and electronic window shades, very nice.  Windows also had side faux wood trim around each.</p>
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<td>Storage
<td>2 side compartments that could fit a backpack, and storage area above your personal bar. I also found the cut-out in front of my seat as a great place to put my tablet and phone while charging (USB ports/power port are below TV). Ample overhead bin space.  I found the side units hard to keep closed; provided a nice area to store my pillow/blanket if/when not using.
<td>None for larger items, but had small compartments for items like phones, tablets/laptops, etc.  Powerports convenient when charging items as they are in one of the storage areas.  Storage areas double as &#8220;cut outs&#8221; for shoulders when sleeping.  Ample overhead bin space.  Flight attendants put pillows and sleeping pads behind your seat in the &#8220;pod.&#8221;</p>
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<td>Inflight amenities
<td>Large bar in back of plane, 2 3-seat sofas (with seat belts) and multiple areas to stand and socialize, including small tables put over doors now, giving it a &#8220;pub&#8221; feel; large screen TV, munchies placed out, but not a consistent &#8220;bartender,&#8221; it happens to be whoever is walking by.  Doesn&#8217;t seem to be a set schedule.  Made to order drinks.  Also a mini-bar in your seat with a variety of choices
<td>No social area, but flight attendants didn&#8217;t kick you out of the galley area/doors if you were standing up and stretching. The First class &#8220;bar&#8221; is more of a wall display containing liquor, no seats, and you are pretty much in the First class galley.</p>
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<td>Lavatories
<td>2 in the rear have windows.  Size was about the same as the 777.  Faux wood trim and flowers.  Inside 2 lavs can have the wall removed for handicap passengers.
<td>No windows, but felt larger than lavatories on US domestic fleet.  Had fresh flowers, toothpaste/brush and shaving kits, along with aftershave and perfume/cologne</p>
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<td>Inflight Entertainment Differences
<td>Camera in tail in addition to nose/down
<td>Could push a button on remote and it will put the show/tv/movie your seat mate is watching on your screen.</p>
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<td>Power ports
<td>Below TV, and I could put my toys on the cabinet on the bulkhead while they charge, so they were all out of my way.
<td>On the side of the seat along with a storage area for phones/laptop/tablets/iPads.  I also had to play a balancing act with my tablet between the two seat remotes while it was charging.<br />
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<p><strong>The Winner</strong><br />
Interestingly enough, I really enjoyed the 777 flight over the A380 flight.  The A380 bar really stands out, but the service was much more consistent on the 777.  The foot traffic on the A380 can (and does) stand out, so if you want to avoid it, then try to sit in the forward section of business class.  Anyone who pays for Business Class (or upgrades) will not be disappointed.  This airline does an amazing job and if I had the budget, I&#8217;d gladly fork out $12,000 for this type of service.
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		<title>United Delays Premium Cabin Refurbishment Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh oh. It looks like United has decided to delay its refurbishment of the premium cabins on the 777 once again. Now they won&#8217;t even start until February 2010, so the problem of dramatically different premium cabin experiences is bound to continue for quite some time. The 767s are complete, and the 747s are almost [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh.  It looks like United has decided to delay its refurbishment of the premium cabins on the 777 once again.  Now they won&#8217;t even start until February 2010, so the problem of dramatically different premium cabin experiences is bound to continue for quite some time.</p>
<p>The 767s are complete, and the 747s are almost there.  They say 18 out of 24 aircraft are done with the full 747 fleet being finished by October this year.  But those 777s, well, they&#8217;ll continue to limp along with the old product.  Here&#8217;s how things will look when the 747s are done in a couple months.</p>
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<p>So what&#8217;s the excuse this time?  Money.  In an internal memo, they blame two things, but I&#8217;m not buying the first.</p>
<blockquote><p>While our International Premium Travel Experience (IPTE) aircraft continue to double our customer satisfaction scores, and the modifications continue to progress well, the B777 program is more complex than the B767 and B747 programs, given the three different B777 sub-fleets. In addition,<br />
we are facing a challenging year due to the global recession, changing market demand and increasing fuel prices.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh huh.  This thing has been delayed so many times that I find it hard to believe that the complexity is still causing the problem here.  Instead, I&#8217;ll put my bet on the little blurb that followed:</p>
<blockquote><p>The decision to postpone the start of the work also allows us to better control our costs in 2009, helping us maintain a stronger cash flow through the historical trough period of the fourth quarter.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ding!  Ding!  Ding!  We have a winner!  They say you have to spend money to make money, but how does that work when you don&#8217;t have money to spend?  Sadly, the 777s make up a bit more than half the fleet, so the cost savings here are likely to turn into revenue pain as people look toward other airlines with better options.
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		<title>Delta Adds Standby Functionality to Website, Makes Progress on Wifi Installation</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/18/delta-adds-standby-functionality-to-website-makes-progress-on-wifi-installation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve seen many people criticize Delta for what it puts on its blog, but they&#8217;ve been putting more and more useful information on there lately. I&#8217;d encourage those interested in Delta to go back and give it another chance. My favorite posts are those from Marie Force, Delta&#8217;s archive manager. But in the last couple [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen many people criticize Delta for what it puts on <a href="http://blog.delta.com/">its blog</a>, but they&#8217;ve been putting more and more useful information on there lately.  I&#8217;d encourage those interested in Delta to go back and give it another chance.  My favorite posts are those from <a href="http://blog.delta.com/category/history/">Marie Force, Delta&#8217;s archive manager</a>.  But in the last couple days, there have been a couple of posts with some current developments that are worth noting.</p>
<p><strong>1)  <a href="http://blog.delta.com/2009/03/16/upgrade-standby-list-on-deltacom/">Upgrade and Standby lists on Delta.com and Soon, Mobile</a></strong></p>
<p>Delta was the first that I can recall to invest in flat screen monitors to make all sorts of information available to the people waiting around at the gate.  Included in that was the standby list.  Did you make it on the earlier flight?  Had they even cleared the list yet?  What about the upgrade to First Class?  The screen had all the info.  It has taken them several years, but they&#8217;ve finally brought this functionality to the website.</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/3363955552/" title="Delta's Online Standby List by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3630/3363955552_b8415828c8.jpg" width="500" height="345" alt="Delta's Online Standby List" /></a></div>
<p>Now when you&#8217;re flying, you can go online and make sure you&#8217;re on the standby/upgrade list.  More importantly, you can see how many seats are available, and you can learn where you are on that list.  Nice, huh?</p>
<p>This is only on the website right now, but they say it will be on the mobile version &#8220;shortly.&#8221;  Then it will become much more valuable.</p>
<p><strong>2)  <a href="http://blog.delta.com/2009/03/18/the-latest-wings-with-wi-fi-part-v/">Wifi Progress</a></strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re one of those people rejoicing at having wireless internet onboard, you&#8217;ll be happy to know that Delta has made some real progress.  Just yesterday, they said 44 aircraft were outfitted, but this morning they said it was up to 59.  As of today, 53 of the MD-88 aircraft (out of 113), 5 757s (out of 128), and the very first MD-90 (out of 16) have been outfitted with wireless internet.  One more MD-88 and one MD-90 go in tonight.  </p>
<p>If you include all 78 737s, all MD-88s, all MD-90s, and all 757s in the calcuation, that means that 17.6% of the domestic fleet is outfitted.  Some of those 757s, however, are part of the international fleet, and some of the 767s are part of the domestic fleet, so it&#8217;s not exact.  Of course, this doesn&#8217;t (and won&#8217;t) include regional aircraft.</p>
<p>Still, if you&#8217;re on an MD-88, you now have a 47% chance of getting a wireless-enabled aircraft.  That&#8217;s very good, and it&#8217;s progressing quickly.</p>
<p><strong>3)  <a href="http://blog.delta.com/2009/03/17/mod-blog-deltas-third-lr-takes-flight/">More Room for Crap on 757s</a></strong></p>
<p>The rest of the updates weren&#8217;t exactly earth-shattering, but they&#8217;re still kind of interesting.  And the blogger who wrote about them writes in pretty technical language, so I thought I could serve as a translator.</p>
<p>One update was on the &#8220;75E&#8221; aircraft.  That&#8217;s actually just their internal code for the 757s that fly over the Atlantic.  So what did they do?  They added larger lav tanks.  Apparently, people were cooped up a little too long on those 757s and they must have been running out of room in the lav tanks.  Yuck.  The modifications will be done on all the international 757s by June 1.  Might want to avoid drinking too much water on those planes until then.</p>
<p>Other good news:  they put headrests on the coach seats while this was going on.</p>
<p><strong>4)  <a href="http://blog.delta.com/2009/03/17/mod-blog-deltas-third-lr-takes-flight/">More Business Class on 777-200LR</a></strong></p>
<p>Delta&#8217;s longest haul aircraft, the 777-200LR, is slowly entering the fleet.  The third aircraft was just delivered, and they&#8217;ve apparently found a way to squeeze in another two business class seats.  So instead of 43, there will now be 45 onboard.  The first two aircraft will be modified to have two more business class seats in the next couple months as well.
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		<title>NTSB Tells Rolls-Royce to Redesign 777 Engine Parts</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/16/ntsb-tells-rolls-royce-to-redesign-777-engine-parts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last month, I talked about how the British Airways 777 accident and the Delta 777 incident had been connected by an interim report from the UK. The NTSB has, after review, agreed with these findings and is now requiring &#8220;urgent&#8221; action. But &#8220;urgent&#8221; is not as dire as it sounds. It does not require aircraft [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month, I talked about how the <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2009/02/05/british-airways-777-accident-at-heathrow-linked-to-delta-incident/">British Airways 777 accident and the Delta 777 incident had been connected</a> by an interim report from the UK.  The NTSB has, after review, agreed with these findings and is now <a href="http://ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2009/090311.html">requiring &#8220;urgent&#8221; action</a>.  But &#8220;urgent&#8221; is not as dire as it sounds.  It does not require aircraft to be grounded, and it will take at least a year, most likely, before the work is complete.</p>
<p>The NTSB has told Rolls-Royce that it needs to redesign the Fuel Oil Heat Exchanger (where cold fuel passes hot oil and they cool/warm each other to proper temperatures) to prevent ice <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/3352019442/" title="Frozen Engine by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img style="margin: 0 5px; float:left;" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/3352019442_4ae4056faa_m.jpg" width="193" height="240" alt="Frozen Engine" /></a>accumulation and subsequent blockage of the the fuel lines.  You may remember that the hot oil wasn&#8217;t properly warming the cold fuel and ice was forming.  This has, so far, only been a problem on the Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines, though <a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/03/12/323794/rolls-royce-trent-800-fix-only-part-of-broader-icing.html">Rolls believes that this could ultimately have a larger impact</a> after further research is done on icing for long flights at very cold temperatures.  But that&#8217;s another story.</p>
<p>Rolls is working on the fix already and expects to have it ready within a year.  Once the redesign is complete, airlines will have no more than six months to implement the fix.  So if this is so &#8220;urgent,&#8221; why aren&#8217;t the planes being grounded?  Well, procedures have already been put into place to help avoid these types of incidents, but the NTSB doesn&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a good long term solution.  In the NTSB&#8217;s words:</p>
<blockquote><p>While the procedures may reduce the risk of a rollback in one or both engines due to [Fuel Oil Heat Exchanger] ice blockage, they add complexity to flight crew operations, and the level of risk reduction is not well established.  And because the recovery procedure requires a descent, the aircraft may be exposed to other risks such as rising terrain or hazardous weather, or the inability to achieve maximum thrust during a critical phase of flight, such as during a missed approach.</p></blockquote>
<p>So while the fix they&#8217;re using right now does work, it&#8217;s not satisfactory in the long term.  So should we worry about stepping on a Rolls-Royce powered 777?  I wouldn&#8217;t.  But it is clear that there are problems and it&#8217;s good to see them being addressed sooner rather than later.
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		<title>United 777 Premium Reconfiguration Requiring Changes in Coach?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ever wonder why United is (finally) working hard to upgrade the 767 and 747 aircraft with the new premium cabin seats, but the 777 is left behind? It appears, that of all things, it&#8217;s a problem in coach that&#8217;s keeping them from getting it done. The fix is going to end up changing the coach [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever wonder why United is (finally) working hard to upgrade the 767 and 747 aircraft with the new premium cabin seats, but the 777 is left behind?  It appears, that of all things, it&#8217;s a problem in coach that&#8217;s keeping them from getting it done.  The fix is going to end up changing the coach configuration on the airplane, and while it will cost the airline a fair chunk of change, it won&#8217;t really benefit coach passengers much at all.<BR><br />
According to sources, the new inflight entertainment system that&#8217;s being installed as part of the premium cabin makeover is incompatible with the old screens in coach.  This obviously wouldn&#8217;t impact the 747 since it has no screens in coach, but it apparently doesn&#8217;t impact the 767 either.  So, United now needs to fix the coach screens on the 777, and that apparently requires new seats.  That obviously means it will cost money, so it&#8217;s no surprise that United is de-emphasizing the 777 project in favor of the 767 and 747 one right now.<BR><br />
As part of this project, I&#8217;m told that United will actually be changing the configuration in coach on the 777s from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3.  I&#8217;m not sure why this change is happening, but I wonder if it has to do with how many screens each box can power.  If each box can power 3 screens, then a 3-3-3 configuration would need 3 boxes per row while 2-5-2 would need 4 boxes (assuming they can&#8217;t reach across the aisle).  This would certainly make the configuration change worthwhile.</p>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/3172687444/" title="United 777 Config by brettsnyder, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1191/3172687444_bcaa151ff4_o.jpg" width="316" height="120" alt="United 777 Config" /></a></div>
<p>But that&#8217;s speculation.  If anyone knows why this change is being done, please let me know.  Assuming this information is accurate, it&#8217;s going to once again mean a painful transition for United customers in coach.  I assume it&#8217;s a safe bet that they won&#8217;t dedicate certain configurations to a single route.  (Though they&#8217;re trying to do it now, it&#8217;s far from a guarantee.)  So while the change is happening, if you booked a B seat on one plane thinking you had an aisle, you might end up with a middle seat.  On the other hand, if you booked a D seat thinking you have a middle, you might be rewarded with an aisle.<BR><br />
On top of all this, I think it&#8217;s safe to assume that the domestic 777 fleet which has no international premium product or in seat video, probably won&#8217;t change at all.  If those are all isolated to the Hawai&#8217;i and domestic routes they&#8217;re intended to fly, it&#8217;s not a huge problem but it still adds to the confusion.<BR><br />
What&#8217;s the worst part of all this?  There won&#8217;t be any material changes for coach passengers, as far as I can see.  This won&#8217;t bring video on demand or anything like that into coach.  It will simply be a costly infrastructure upgrade to allow for video on demand up front.<BR><br />
If anyone has further information about this, hit the comments.<BR><br />
[There is now an <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/07/followup-on-uniteds-777-reconfiguration/">updated post</a> with info that United will have on demand in coach.]
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		<title>British Airways 777 Accident at Heathrow Likely Caused by Ice Buildup</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/05/british-airways-777-accident-at-heathrow-likely-caused-by-ice-buildup/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We finally have an &#8220;Interim Report&#8221; on what happened to the BA 777 that lost power and crash-landed at London/Heathrow in January of this year. According to the UK&#8217;s Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB), it was probably due to the buildup of ice in the fuel system that blocked the flow of fuel, but that&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We finally have an &#8220;Interim Report&#8221; on what happened to the BA 777 that lost power and crash-landed at London/Heathrow in January of this year.  According to the UK&#8217;s Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB), it was probably due to the buildup of ice in the fuel system that blocked the flow of fuel, but that&#8217;s not exactly certain.  The <a href="http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/sites/aaib/cms_resources/G-YMMM%20Interim%20Report.pdf">AAIB report on aircraft G-YMMM (21 pages, PDF)</a> provides some extremely interesting reading.  I&#8217;d recommend curling up with it this weekend if you have the time.</p>
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<p>In short, here&#8217;s what they think happened:</p>
<blockquote><p>The investigation has shown that the fuel flow to both engines was restricted; most probably due to ice within the fuel feed system.  The ice is likely to have formed from water that occurred naturally in the fuel whilst the aircraft operated for a long period, with low fuel flows, in an unusually cold environment; although, G-YMMM was operated within the certified operational envelope at all times.</p></blockquote>
<p>The interesting thing here is that they really aren&#8217;t sure what happened, but they&#8217;ve reached this conclusion through a process of elimination.  Everything appeared to function as expected, but there was reduced fuel flow.  What caused it?  That&#8217;s where the speculation begins.<BR><br />
They do know that the aircraft was flying in unusually cold conditions but not cold enough to cause &#8220;fuel waxing&#8221; which is when fuel would freeze.  They know that there is naturally-occurring water that builds up in fuel over time, and this would freeze at those temps, but they didn&#8217;t find anything excessive.  What could have happened is that small bits of ice built up over time and were jarred into the unfortunate position of blocking the fuel flow.  What would have jarred them?<BR><br />
Well, when the airplane was descending, it had to power up a couple times for holding and to speed up to remain lined up with the runway.  This of course, happens all the time, but it was also just the type of event that could have knocked ice crystals into a bad spot.  It sounds like it was truly an amazing coincidence that these events resulted in an aircraft landing short of the runway and being written off.<BR><br />
The AAIB examined 13,000 777 flights powered by Rolls-Royce engines and found the following:</p>
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<li>Of the 13,000 flights, only 118 had takeoff fuel temps below the 28 degrees F found on this flight</li>
<li>On the approach, only 70 flights had fuel at or below the -8 degrees F found on this flight</li>
<li>Only 10% of the flights examined had fuel flows of less than 10,000 pound of fuel per hour (pph) for the step climbs after departure (this flight never exceeded 8,896 pph)</li>
<li>Only 10% of the flights examined had fuel flows of more than 10,000 pph during the approach phase (this one was more than 12,000 pph)</li>
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<p>So as you can see, the combination of low fuel temps, low fuel flow early in the flight and high fuel flow toward the end may have doomed this aircraft.  Had it happened in any other phase of flight, the ice would have disappeared quickly enough that it would have been easy to recover.  This was, as usual, a series of things going wrong that combined to create a nasty accident.<BR><br />
The AAIB recommends requiring airlines use measures to reduce the risk of ice formation.  This could include things like using fuel additives that lower the freezing point, but it didn&#8217;t actually specify what should happen as of yet, as far as I can tell.  Initially these recommendations are only for Rolls-Royce powered aircraft, but they&#8217;re going to review other engines and aircraft types to see if it might be necessary elsewhere.<BR><br />
As I said above, <a href="http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/sites/aaib/publications/interim_reports/boeing_777_236er__g_ymmm.cfm">this is really a fascinating read</a>.  I&#8217;d recommend taking it home with you this weekend.
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		<title>Probably Not a Good Day to Fly To Heathrow</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;re traveling through London/Heathrow today, you might want to call your airline and see if things are running on time. They haven&#8217;t exactly had the best of luck there these last couple of days. See, yesterday a British Airways 777 landed on the grass before it got to the concrete, skidded, and ended up [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re traveling through London/Heathrow today, you might want to call your airline and see if things are running on time.  They haven&#8217;t exactly had the best of luck there these last couple of days.<BR><br />
See, yesterday a British Airways 777 landed on the grass before it got to the concrete, skidded, and ended up stopping right at the threshold to one of Heathrow&#8217;s two runways, as you can see below.</p>
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<p>Everyone got off ok, and that&#8217;s pretty amazing.  I spent the day yesterday going back and forth with a bunch of airline dork friends discussing what could have possibly caused this to happen.  The weather was good and there weren&#8217;t any visibility issues, so that&#8217;s unlikely to have been the problem.  There were reports that the engines failed, so what would have caused it?  Did it run out of fuel?  Maybe, though unlikely.  It didn&#8217;t catch on fire, so that&#8217;s always possible.<BR><br />
I know, I should really keep out of this whole speculation game.  Remember that potential <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2008/01/16/air-canada-severe-turbulence-undular-bore/">&#8220;undular bore&#8221;</a> that the Air Canada plane may have hit?  Well, there are now reports that it could have been wake turbulence from a 747 passing in front of it.  Not nearly as interesting, but certainly plausible.  So, it makes me want to reserve judgment on this accident even though it&#8217;s so interesting.<BR><br />
<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=508839&amp;in_page_id=1770&amp;ct=5">The Daily Mail</a>, however, has no problem speculating that it may have been a bird strike that shut down both engines simultaneously just a minute before landing.  They have a bunch of incredible pictures and more details on the site.  The odds of that seem so unbelievably small.  It made me wonder which was more unlikely:  that scenario or Randy Johnson <a href="http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2001/0325/1161522.html">hitting a bird</a> over home plate with his fastball a few years back.<BR><br />
Well, it doesn&#8217;t matter.  They&#8217;ll figure it out soon enough, I&#8217;m sure.  It&#8217;s interesting to note that this is the first major accident I can think of involving a 777.  That&#8217;s a very long and impressive safety record.<BR><br />
But back to my original point.  That plane is still sitting at the threshold to the runway, so it may cause delays.  Right now, I believe the runway is open to departing flights.  (&#8220;And please don&#8217;t look to your right, ladies and gentlemen.&#8221;)  Yesterday, when the runway was closed, most short haul flights were canceled or diverted so that long hauls could run.  I imagine that the runway may need to close on and off for investigation and removal, so short haul flights may be affected again.
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		<title>How Much Stress Can a Wing Take?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve had friends come back from vacations with harrowing stories about turbulence so bad they thought the wings were going to fall off. Of course, it didn&#8217;t happen, and it&#8217;s extremely unlikely that it could happen. I came across this video this morning which is a 3:35 piece of the PBS series &#8220;21st Century Jet&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had friends come back from vacations with harrowing stories about turbulence so bad they thought the wings were going to fall off. Of course, it didn&#8217;t happen, and it&#8217;s extremely unlikely that it could happen.</p>
<p>I came across this video this morning which is a 3:35 piece of the PBS series &#8220;21st Century Jet&#8221; about the 777 showing what kind of testing they did on the 777 wing.</p>
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<p>As you can see, they bent that wing up more than 24 feet from level and only then did it break, at more than 150% of the strongest force that could expected in flight.</p>
<p>And this isn&#8217;t the only wing testing they do.  They also flex the wings up and down for long periods of time to simulate sustained periods of turbulence.
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