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		<title>By: airline complaint</title>
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		<dc:creator>airline complaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DrKoob,

what are your thoughts then on the ideal charge? i believe for first class fliers it should be free. for the rest, it should go by hour because flights vary in length you are allowed to use computers. i do not like the $7.99 / $9.99 boingo type arrangements. in fact airports should reconsider this as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DrKoob,</p>
<p>what are your thoughts then on the ideal charge? i believe for first class fliers it should be free. for the rest, it should go by hour because flights vary in length you are allowed to use computers. i do not like the $7.99 / $9.99 boingo type arrangements. in fact airports should reconsider this as well</p>
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		<title>By: DrKoob</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrKoob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was on Alaska Air 737 two weeks ago and had WiFi. Outstanding coverage. $3.95 for the flight. Was a survey about WiFi that was pretty thorough that they sent me when I got home. Nice WiFi. I thought that was a great price. One of the options they asked about on the survey was how much would I pay in the future and how the fee structure should be set up. Pay by 24 hour day (great for me that day as I was flying twice), by the flight, by a longer period (great if you are flying a bunch in a given time.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was on Alaska Air 737 two weeks ago and had WiFi. Outstanding coverage. $3.95 for the flight. Was a survey about WiFi that was pretty thorough that they sent me when I got home. Nice WiFi. I thought that was a great price. One of the options they asked about on the survey was how much would I pay in the future and how the fee structure should be set up. Pay by 24 hour day (great for me that day as I was flying twice), by the flight, by a longer period (great if you are flying a bunch in a given time.)</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-82445&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CF&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:


Here&#039;s what I found online:

Neither company would release the exact cost of turning airplanes into Wi-Fi hot spots. But Blumenstein said Aircell managed to equip a plane for &quot;substantially&quot; less than $100,000. Row 44, which bills itself as the &quot;industrial-strength solution&quot; to airplane connectivity, costs hundreds of thousands of dollars per plane, Guidon said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ <a href="#comment-82445" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">CF</a></b>:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I found online:</p>
<p>Neither company would release the exact cost of turning airplanes into Wi-Fi hot spots. But Blumenstein said Aircell managed to equip a plane for &#8220;substantially&#8221; less than $100,000. Row 44, which bills itself as the &#8220;industrial-strength solution&#8221; to airplane connectivity, costs hundreds of thousands of dollars per plane, Guidon said.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-82370&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;frank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
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Thanks.  I had not heard that advertisers were willing to pay for the service, thus, allowing the airlines to add value to flying but not charging the passenger for the service.  Revenue from advertisers would cover the cost of installing it, how interesting, since it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars PER PLANE.
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Well, I&#039;m not so convinced that most of these airlines are paying much to have it installed.  My guess is that they&#039;re getting some sweetheart deals from the companies that want to get their equipment onboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-82370" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">frank</a></b> wrote:</p>
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Thanks.  I had not heard that advertisers were willing to pay for the service, thus, allowing the airlines to add value to flying but not charging the passenger for the service.  Revenue from advertisers would cover the cost of installing it, how interesting, since it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars PER PLANE.
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<p>Well, I&#8217;m not so convinced that most of these airlines are paying much to have it installed.  My guess is that they&#8217;re getting some sweetheart deals from the companies that want to get their equipment onboard.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CF
 November 4th, 2009 at 7:51 am 
No, some airlines did offer it free during testing, but we’re beyond that point now. These guys are just getting advertisers to pay for it instead of passengers.
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Thanks.  I had not heard that advertisers were willing to pay for the service, thus, allowing the airlines to add value to flying but not charging the passenger for the service.  Revenue from advertisers would cover the cost of installing it, how interesting, since it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars PER PLANE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CF<br />
 November 4th, 2009 at 7:51 am<br />
No, some airlines did offer it free during testing, but we’re beyond that point now. These guys are just getting advertisers to pay for it instead of passengers.<br />
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<p>Thanks.  I had not heard that advertisers were willing to pay for the service, thus, allowing the airlines to add value to flying but not charging the passenger for the service.  Revenue from advertisers would cover the cost of installing it, how interesting, since it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars PER PLANE.</p>
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		<title>By: airline complaints</title>
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		<dc:creator>airline complaints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i recently had the chance to try this out, both paid and non paid. i paid for wifi on a trip from dallas to detroit to watch the red wings play hockey.  o the other hand, i had a first class seat on a flight to europe, during which they provided wifi for free!  it makes time fly soooo fast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently had the chance to try this out, both paid and non paid. i paid for wifi on a trip from dallas to detroit to watch the red wings play hockey.  o the other hand, i had a first class seat on a flight to europe, during which they provided wifi for free!  it makes time fly soooo fast!</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81950&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;frank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
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Wasnt this temporary free offer really a grace period for these airlines to install it and work out any bugs that might happen.  So, they wouldnt incur any customer service complains, while FREE?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, some airlines did offer it free during testing, but we&#039;re beyond that point now.  These guys are just getting advertisers to pay for it instead of passengers.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81957&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Phil Vincent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, this assumes that one can actually use one’s computer.  I am 6?-1?, 240 lb and my weapon of choice is a Latitude D800.  Good luck using that on AirTran (I have tried). Or American.  Or Delta, Or whichever.
I’ll stick to paperbacks, thanks.
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Yeah, using a laptop on an AirTran 717 is something that is likely to cause severe pain and cramping.  The 737 is somewhat better on them.  But, remember that you can use your iPhone, BlackBerry, etc if you have wifi.  That&#039;s cheaper to use and it doesn&#039;t require gymnastics to actually use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-81950" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">frank</a></b> wrote:</p>
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Wasnt this temporary free offer really a grace period for these airlines to install it and work out any bugs that might happen.  So, they wouldnt incur any customer service complains, while FREE?
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<p>No, some airlines did offer it free during testing, but we&#8217;re beyond that point now.  These guys are just getting advertisers to pay for it instead of passengers.</p>
<p><b><a href="#comment-81957" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Phil Vincent</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Well, this assumes that one can actually use one’s computer.  I am 6?-1?, 240 lb and my weapon of choice is a Latitude D800.  Good luck using that on AirTran (I have tried). Or American.  Or Delta, Or whichever.<br />
I’ll stick to paperbacks, thanks.
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<p>Yeah, using a laptop on an AirTran 717 is something that is likely to cause severe pain and cramping.  The 737 is somewhat better on them.  But, remember that you can use your iPhone, BlackBerry, etc if you have wifi.  That&#8217;s cheaper to use and it doesn&#8217;t require gymnastics to actually use it.</p>
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		<title>By: ATLguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ATLguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it is free on AirTran thru the end of the year. When you log in, it comes up with a promo code to try it once for free AIRTRANTRYGOGO I believe, right there on the purchase page. They also have Go-Go folks in green shirts canvassing the gate areas of ATL handing out free promo codes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it is free on AirTran thru the end of the year. When you log in, it comes up with a promo code to try it once for free AIRTRANTRYGOGO I believe, right there on the purchase page. They also have Go-Go folks in green shirts canvassing the gate areas of ATL handing out free promo codes.</p>
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		<title>By: ndelregno</title>
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		<dc:creator>ndelregno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, use the AATRYGOGO code for one time free.  It worked several times for several people, but AirCell has fixed that loophole and it is now a one-time only (new-user) free code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, use the AATRYGOGO code for one time free.  It worked several times for several people, but AirCell has fixed that loophole and it is now a one-time only (new-user) free code.</p>
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		<title>By: DeltaDon</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeltaDon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have Delta return to the former passenger service they provided in the past instead of the way they treat their customers now and maybe they will return to profitability sooner instead of gouging passenger with baggaage charges,standby charges etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have Delta return to the former passenger service they provided in the past instead of the way they treat their customers now and maybe they will return to profitability sooner instead of gouging passenger with baggaage charges,standby charges etc.</p>
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