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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there really charter flights with no lavs? You&#039;ve got to be kidding....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there really charter flights with no lavs? You&#8217;ve got to be kidding&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MO</title>
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		<dc:creator>MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 01:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to their website, the Phenom 100s have greater cabin width AND height than the Citation Bravo &amp; Encore, Learjet 31A &amp; 35A, CJ3 and Hawker 400XP. I don&#039;t know why they would say this if it was not the case. The jet is so sharp looking, but I have not seen the inside (aside from their youtube vids to confirm how roomy it is). I definitely would not recommend a long trip with this jet and I don&#039;t think the company really targets those itineraries anyway. With their new ridiculous $999 promos to Vegas and $1499 to the Bay, it is pretty unbeatable. That&#039;s my opinion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to their website, the Phenom 100s have greater cabin width AND height than the Citation Bravo &amp; Encore, Learjet 31A &amp; 35A, CJ3 and Hawker 400XP. I don&#8217;t know why they would say this if it was not the case. The jet is so sharp looking, but I have not seen the inside (aside from their youtube vids to confirm how roomy it is). I definitely would not recommend a long trip with this jet and I don&#8217;t think the company really targets those itineraries anyway. With their new ridiculous $999 promos to Vegas and $1499 to the Bay, it is pretty unbeatable. That&#8217;s my opinion!</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KB,

I own a charter company, Desert Jet.  I can tell you that the operators Paragon Airways, Global Exec Aviation, Komar Aviation Group and my company all offer Citations in the price ranges I&#039;ve quoted.  These operators are all based in the LA/OC areas and Desert Jet is in Palm Springs.  Desert Jet does not add fuel surcharges; I&#039;m not sure about the other companies I&#039;ve listed.  The Citation V and Encore cabins are significantly larger than the Phenom.  Just two weeks ago we had an former Jetsuite client fly with us on our Encore.  His comments were that he loved the Encore because of the larger cabin size and the ability for the cabin seats to swivel, track and fully recline.  He had a four hour flight on the Phenom that needed a fuel stop while our Encore did the flight nonstop.  His comments were that our seats on a four hour flight were more comfortable than two hours at a time in the Phenom seat.  Of course the Citation V and Encore have an enclosed private lavatory as well as XM radio, satellite phone and other nice amenities.

I think these days travelers are shying away from any travel program that requires them to place deposits or make commitments.  With on-demand charter, you simply pay as you fly with no commitments.  Plus, you&#039;ll likely always have the same flight crew and fly on the same aircraft.  Peace of mind when it comes to safety is very important.

I hope that helped answer your questions kb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KB,</p>
<p>I own a charter company, Desert Jet.  I can tell you that the operators Paragon Airways, Global Exec Aviation, Komar Aviation Group and my company all offer Citations in the price ranges I&#8217;ve quoted.  These operators are all based in the LA/OC areas and Desert Jet is in Palm Springs.  Desert Jet does not add fuel surcharges; I&#8217;m not sure about the other companies I&#8217;ve listed.  The Citation V and Encore cabins are significantly larger than the Phenom.  Just two weeks ago we had an former Jetsuite client fly with us on our Encore.  His comments were that he loved the Encore because of the larger cabin size and the ability for the cabin seats to swivel, track and fully recline.  He had a four hour flight on the Phenom that needed a fuel stop while our Encore did the flight nonstop.  His comments were that our seats on a four hour flight were more comfortable than two hours at a time in the Phenom seat.  Of course the Citation V and Encore have an enclosed private lavatory as well as XM radio, satellite phone and other nice amenities.</p>
<p>I think these days travelers are shying away from any travel program that requires them to place deposits or make commitments.  With on-demand charter, you simply pay as you fly with no commitments.  Plus, you&#8217;ll likely always have the same flight crew and fly on the same aircraft.  Peace of mind when it comes to safety is very important.</p>
<p>I hope that helped answer your questions kb.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Rosen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice jet, but what an ugly paint job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice jet, but what an ugly paint job.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the $2400 include fuel and tax? Deadhead cost? Typically with charter, if we stay for a couple days, we incur the deadhead cost so technically you have to take the per hour rate and times it by two, which makes it close to $5000/hour (as I originally suggested) not including fuel and tax. Phenom price through JetSuite still wins. We&#039;ve flown in a V and it is virtually the same size as Phenom, with the same size seats. Phenom has a private lav as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the $2400 include fuel and tax? Deadhead cost? Typically with charter, if we stay for a couple days, we incur the deadhead cost so technically you have to take the per hour rate and times it by two, which makes it close to $5000/hour (as I originally suggested) not including fuel and tax. Phenom price through JetSuite still wins. We&#8217;ve flown in a V and it is virtually the same size as Phenom, with the same size seats. Phenom has a private lav as well.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denise,

Which charter companies are chartering Citations for $1900 and the V for $2400/hour? I would really like to know. I have never encountered a quote that low and we&#039;ve flown with everyone. I know the going rate with Marquis on a Citation V Ultra was $5000/hr. The cheapest quote we&#039;ve ever received was from Clay for $2000 on a rinky dink Lear 35. Please let me know who you are using. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denise,</p>
<p>Which charter companies are chartering Citations for $1900 and the V for $2400/hour? I would really like to know. I have never encountered a quote that low and we&#8217;ve flown with everyone. I know the going rate with Marquis on a Citation V Ultra was $5000/hr. The cheapest quote we&#8217;ve ever received was from Clay for $2000 on a rinky dink Lear 35. Please let me know who you are using. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the going charter rate for a Citation that is the same size as the Phenom, in the Los Angeles area, is $1900 per hour.  For a larger Citation such as a Citation V or Encore with the range of 1800 NM, the going charter rate is $2400 per hour.  The seats and cabin size are significantly larger in a Citation V and Citation Encore, with a fully enclosed, private lavatory.  Think 7 seats with the ability to swivel and recline, rather than the Phenom&#039;s 4 or 5 seat offering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the going charter rate for a Citation that is the same size as the Phenom, in the Los Angeles area, is $1900 per hour.  For a larger Citation such as a Citation V or Encore with the range of 1800 NM, the going charter rate is $2400 per hour.  The seats and cabin size are significantly larger in a Citation V and Citation Encore, with a fully enclosed, private lavatory.  Think 7 seats with the ability to swivel and recline, rather than the Phenom&#8217;s 4 or 5 seat offering.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, 

Just to clarify, we&#039;ve chartered with Jetsuite. Their pricing for charter is definitely lower than any other operator out there and it&#039;s even cheaper when you buy into their membership program. I&#039;ve never seen a flight from them for $4500/hour. Not sure where you got that from. Marquis is such a rip off. It is an insult to have the pricing that they have in this economy. I have a feeling their pricing will have to drop eventually in order to compete with the charter world and JetSuite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>Just to clarify, we&#8217;ve chartered with Jetsuite. Their pricing for charter is definitely lower than any other operator out there and it&#8217;s even cheaper when you buy into their membership program. I&#8217;ve never seen a flight from them for $4500/hour. Not sure where you got that from. Marquis is such a rip off. It is an insult to have the pricing that they have in this economy. I have a feeling their pricing will have to drop eventually in order to compete with the charter world and JetSuite.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

You clearly do not fly privately. The inside of the Phenom is much bigger than that of the Lears, the cheapest &quot;light jet&quot; to charter on the market. The Citation&#039;s price is at $5000/hour (double the cost of the Pheenom and not including all the other &quot;blind&quot; costs they don&#039;t include in your quote) and the seats are not &quot;wider&quot; on the Citation by any means. I charter all the time for my boss and JetSuite&#039;s model, in comparison to Marquis/NetJets/Sentient/Clay Lacy is definitely the most cost-effective for shorter hauls and makes the most sense for shorter business trips. It&#039;s about time a company came up with an alternative for private flying and I have a feeling they will be in business for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>You clearly do not fly privately. The inside of the Phenom is much bigger than that of the Lears, the cheapest &#8220;light jet&#8221; to charter on the market. The Citation&#8217;s price is at $5000/hour (double the cost of the Pheenom and not including all the other &#8220;blind&#8221; costs they don&#8217;t include in your quote) and the seats are not &#8220;wider&#8221; on the Citation by any means. I charter all the time for my boss and JetSuite&#8217;s model, in comparison to Marquis/NetJets/Sentient/Clay Lacy is definitely the most cost-effective for shorter hauls and makes the most sense for shorter business trips. It&#8217;s about time a company came up with an alternative for private flying and I have a feeling they will be in business for a long time.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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