Comments on: Midwest and Frontier Start Swapping Airplanes in the Middle of the Day http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/ Thu, 24 May 2012 21:04:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ed http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-98390 Ed Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:35:16 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-98390 In Tampa, I waited on the eighth floor parking deck this evening for my friend arriving on Midwest 970 from MKE. I had a great view of the Midwest gate. When the aircraft didn't show, turns out it was on time, but was a Frontier aircraft, at a Frontier gate and when I backtracked to the ticket counter, the ticket counter agent didn't even know! Needless to say, it took 30 additional minutes to hook up. How was I to know that Midwest "borrowed" a Frontier aircraft! I see little good coming from this. In Tampa, I waited on the eighth floor parking deck this evening for my friend arriving on Midwest 970 from MKE. I had a great view of the Midwest gate. When the aircraft didn’t show, turns out it was on time, but was a Frontier aircraft, at a Frontier gate and when I backtracked to the ticket counter, the ticket counter agent didn’t even know! Needless to say, it took 30 additional minutes to hook up.
How was I to know that Midwest “borrowed” a Frontier aircraft! I see little good coming from this.

]]> By: Gent http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-87046 Gent Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:32 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-87046 <b>@ <a href="#comment-81655" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">enplaned</a></b>: Nah! magnetic stickers @ enplaned:

Nah! magnetic stickers

]]> By: Global Jetsetter http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-83437 Global Jetsetter Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:15:33 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-83437 I have an idea: Why doesn't Republic just brand it as Mid-tier Airlines since that's what both brands are fast becoming? I have an idea:

Why doesn’t Republic just brand it as Mid-tier Airlines since that’s what both brands are fast becoming?

]]> By: DRG http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-83240 DRG Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:39:10 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-83240 If they insist on maintaining two brands, then what they should have done is made Frontier the brand of Airbus flying and Midwest the brand of Embraer flying. This would make the product differentiation less confusing. It would mimic the Alaska-Horizon set-up If they insist on maintaining two brands, then what they should have done is made Frontier the brand of Airbus flying and Midwest the brand of Embraer flying. This would make the product differentiation less confusing. It would mimic the Alaska-Horizon set-up

]]> By: David SFeastbay http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-83238 David SFeastbay Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:34:17 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-83238 Looks like 'Republic's Midwest Frontier' Airline will be using another Frontier plane for Midwest starting next April. Midwest will start MKE-SFO nonstop using an A319 for one roundtrip a day. So again people will be using an airplane with Frontier on the outside but holding a Midwest ticket. I can just see people sitting in the waiting area at SFO for the outbound flight back to MKE looking out the window for the 'Midwest' flight and not seeing the arriving Midwest plane come in (45min turn around) and thinking they will be delayed since they only see a Frontier plane. Looks like ‘Republic’s Midwest Frontier’ Airline will be using another Frontier plane for Midwest starting next April. Midwest will start MKE-SFO nonstop using an A319 for one roundtrip a day. So again people will be using an airplane with Frontier on the outside but holding a Midwest ticket.

I can just see people sitting in the waiting area at SFO for the outbound flight back to MKE looking out the window for the ‘Midwest’ flight and not seeing the arriving Midwest plane come in (45min turn around) and thinking they will be delayed since they only see a Frontier plane.

]]> By: CF http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-81919 CF Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:58:00 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-81919 <b><a href="#comment-81905" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Doug Swalen</a></b> wrote: <blockquote>A friend of mine flew Frontier recently and they said the Emergency Exits were labeled in English and a language from an Asian country I can’t recall. Where the heck did Frontier get that plane from? </blockquote> I don't think Frontier has taken any second-hand aircraft, so it could have just been parts that came from elsewhere. Doug Swalen wrote:

A friend of mine flew Frontier recently and they said the Emergency Exits were labeled in English and a language from an Asian country I can’t recall. Where the heck did Frontier get that plane from?

I don’t think Frontier has taken any second-hand aircraft, so it could have just been parts that came from elsewhere.

]]> By: Doug Swalen http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-81905 Doug Swalen Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:21:23 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-81905 A friend of mine flew Frontier recently and they said the Emergency Exits were labeled in English and a language from an Asian country I can't recall. Where the heck did Frontier get that plane from? A friend of mine flew Frontier recently and they said the Emergency Exits were labeled in English and a language from an Asian country I can’t recall. Where the heck did Frontier get that plane from?

]]> By: DRG http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-81888 DRG Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:42:28 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-81888 Where is my OAG when I need it. Midwest at this point is piddly small and and can't represent much of the combined Frontier-Midwest capacity. And for the past few years, for Milwaukee the Midwest brand has meant uncertainty, ever changing product offering, ever changing route network and layoffs. Where is my OAG when I need it. Midwest at this point is piddly small and and can’t represent much of the combined Frontier-Midwest capacity. And for the past few years, for Milwaukee the Midwest brand has meant uncertainty, ever changing product offering, ever changing route network and layoffs.

]]> By: Allen http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-81884 Allen Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:36:57 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-81884 CF --> Thank you. DRG --> Interesting point about Midwest. While they don't have a strong brand, how strong is it in Milwaukee? Can Repbulic afford to fiddle with it right now with AirTran on the war path in MKE? CF –> Thank you.

DRG –> Interesting point about Midwest. While they don’t have a strong brand, how strong is it in Milwaukee? Can Repbulic afford to fiddle with it right now with AirTran on the war path in MKE?

]]> By: DRG http://crankyflier.com/2009/10/30/midwest-and-frontier-start-swapping-airplanes-in-the-middle-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-81880 DRG Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:13:24 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=3846#comment-81880 I don't think it's clever at all, I think it is silly. As Midwest was never a large airline, its cache as a brand is limited and has eroded somewhat as its management tinkered with the product model. The differences in product offering are negligible and maintaining two brands is more expensive. What's the point? Republic should have retained the best of both products and lumped everything in under the Frontier brand. I don’t think it’s clever at all, I think it is silly. As Midwest was never a large airline, its cache as a brand is limited and has eroded somewhat as its management tinkered with the product model. The differences in product offering are negligible and maintaining two brands is more expensive. What’s the point? Republic should have retained the best of both products and lumped everything in under the Frontier brand.

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