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		<title>By: Airtran airplane &#124; Aspiringcatwalkmodels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Airtran airplane &#124; Aspiringcatwalkmodels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 06:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] JetBlue Tweaks Its Colors While AirTran Unveils a Beauty (Airplane PGuess what time it is, kids? It&#8217;s airplane p*rn time! (Yes, that&#8217;s now with an asterisk to try to circumvent corporate filters.) You know how much I love airplane p*rn, and we&#8217;ve got two good ones this week with JetBlue and AirTran. &#8230; AirTran, Airplane Porn, JetBlue none&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] JetBlue Tweaks Its Colors While AirTran Unveils a Beauty (Airplane PGuess what time it is, kids? It&#8217;s airplane p*rn time! (Yes, that&#8217;s now with an asterisk to try to circumvent corporate filters.) You know how much I love airplane p*rn, and we&#8217;ve got two good ones this week with JetBlue and AirTran. &#8230; AirTran, Airplane Porn, JetBlue none&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JLR4TRAVEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLR4TRAVEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that Falcons jet last week.  I can&#039;t remember which airport though. (I was in several).  I think it was LGA or IAD.  It was landing as we were taxiing on the runway. Looked pretty sweet to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that Falcons jet last week.  I can&#8217;t remember which airport though. (I was in several).  I think it was LGA or IAD.  It was landing as we were taxiing on the runway. Looked pretty sweet to me!</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81695&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sunil&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;beautiful look for a likable and profitable airline for a change. aren’t they the only profitable one now since southwest turned a huge 3rd qrtr loss on fuel hedging?
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Both JetBlue and AirTran were profitable, but there are others as well.  Allegiant, for example, and Alaska as well both posted pretty strong profits.  By the way, I would hardly call Southwest&#039;s $16 million loss &quot;huge.&quot;  It was actually quite small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-81695" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">sunil</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>beautiful look for a likable and profitable airline for a change. aren’t they the only profitable one now since southwest turned a huge 3rd qrtr loss on fuel hedging?
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<p>Both JetBlue and AirTran were profitable, but there are others as well.  Allegiant, for example, and Alaska as well both posted pretty strong profits.  By the way, I would hardly call Southwest&#8217;s $16 million loss &#8220;huge.&#8221;  It was actually quite small.</p>
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		<title>By: sunil</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beautiful look for a likable and profitable airline for a change. aren&#039;t they the only profitable one now since southwest turned a huge 3rd qrtr loss on fuel hedging?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful look for a likable and profitable airline for a change. aren&#8217;t they the only profitable one now since southwest turned a huge 3rd qrtr loss on fuel hedging?</p>
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		<title>By: myriam</title>
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		<dc:creator>myriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, thanks, Cranky.  fwiw, I got that &quot;dark colors weigh more&quot; thing from the tour guide at the Boeing 747 plant -- not necessarily a reliable source, but hopefully.  Good to know about the A/C -- having been the owner of a white car and a dark blue car in southern california I can definitely relate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, thanks, Cranky.  fwiw, I got that &#8220;dark colors weigh more&#8221; thing from the tour guide at the Boeing 747 plant &#8212; not necessarily a reliable source, but hopefully.  Good to know about the A/C &#8212; having been the owner of a white car and a dark blue car in southern california I can definitely relate.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since I&#039;ve worked for AirTran, theyve only painted/stuck decals on 717s.  I wonder if its cheaper?  I wouldnt mind seeing a 737 done up nicely myself one day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since I&#8217;ve worked for AirTran, theyve only painted/stuck decals on 717s.  I wonder if its cheaper?  I wouldnt mind seeing a 737 done up nicely myself one day!</p>
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		<title>By: Acaislim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acaislim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AirTran should change their colors to black and orange!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AirTran should change their colors to black and orange!</p>
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		<title>By: yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dig the blue bubbles on Jet Blue!

As for the AWA Teamwork plane designed by the kid...we used to call it &quot;Nightmare on Sesame Street&quot;, just awful.  If we had done our Mexico themed plane, it would have been real sweet.

For a really nice livery, check out the Surinam Airlines 747-300, beautiful, but very soon it will be gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dig the blue bubbles on Jet Blue!</p>
<p>As for the AWA Teamwork plane designed by the kid&#8230;we used to call it &#8220;Nightmare on Sesame Street&#8221;, just awful.  If we had done our Mexico themed plane, it would have been real sweet.</p>
<p>For a really nice livery, check out the Surinam Airlines 747-300, beautiful, but very soon it will be gone.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80501&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;myriam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
It’s true that airlines avoid dark colored paint because it weighs more, right?  I’ve always been curious to know how much difference it would actually make (every time I think about the AA lack of body paint) . . . Would also be interesting to know how much that black paint might contribute to AC needs on the tarmac.  (sorry if these are stupid thoughts — I’m nowhere near the league of your regular commentors!)
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First of all, these are NOT stupid thoughts at all.  I&#039;d encourage anyone who is thinking about commenting to do it, because you have nothing to lose.  (I mean, nobody will no who you are anyway.)

Now, back to your points.  I don&#039;t believe there is any difference in weight between light and dark paint.  There may very well be a cost difference for more exotic colors, but this is definitely out of my area of expertise.

Paint in general does weight more than no paint, but I&#039;ve heard that it&#039;s really a wash in terms of ultimate costs.  Pain provides a nice protective layer for the skin of the airplane, so without paint, there are additional costs to keeping the skin protected from the elements.  There is a fuel savings to having no paint, but I&#039;ve always understood the total benefit to be nil.

Your point about air conditioning costs is actually a huge one.  That was one of the main considerations when US Airways introduced its new white logo.  The old US Airways spent a lot of time in cold weather places, but the new US Airways has a substantial operation in Phoenix and Vegas.  So, they wanted a lighter livery to keep the planes cooler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-80501" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">myriam</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>
It’s true that airlines avoid dark colored paint because it weighs more, right?  I’ve always been curious to know how much difference it would actually make (every time I think about the AA lack of body paint) . . . Would also be interesting to know how much that black paint might contribute to AC needs on the tarmac.  (sorry if these are stupid thoughts — I’m nowhere near the league of your regular commentors!)
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<p>First of all, these are NOT stupid thoughts at all.  I&#8217;d encourage anyone who is thinking about commenting to do it, because you have nothing to lose.  (I mean, nobody will no who you are anyway.)</p>
<p>Now, back to your points.  I don&#8217;t believe there is any difference in weight between light and dark paint.  There may very well be a cost difference for more exotic colors, but this is definitely out of my area of expertise.</p>
<p>Paint in general does weight more than no paint, but I&#8217;ve heard that it&#8217;s really a wash in terms of ultimate costs.  Pain provides a nice protective layer for the skin of the airplane, so without paint, there are additional costs to keeping the skin protected from the elements.  There is a fuel savings to having no paint, but I&#8217;ve always understood the total benefit to be nil.</p>
<p>Your point about air conditioning costs is actually a huge one.  That was one of the main considerations when US Airways introduced its new white logo.  The old US Airways spent a lot of time in cold weather places, but the new US Airways has a substantial operation in Phoenix and Vegas.  So, they wanted a lighter livery to keep the planes cooler.</p>
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		<title>By: myriam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and I completely agree that the location of the logo on that JetBlue plane is very awkward w.r.t. window location.  Ugh -- misfire on the designer&#039;s part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I completely agree that the location of the logo on that JetBlue plane is very awkward w.r.t. window location.  Ugh &#8212; misfire on the designer&#8217;s part.</p>
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