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		<title>By: chico</title>
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		<dc:creator>chico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice plane</description>
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		<title>By: Roundup Friday &#8211; Going Anywhere? &#124; Flight Wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roundup Friday &#8211; Going Anywhere? &#124; Flight Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] carrier Trans-State Airlines has signed a letter of intent for 100 Mitsibushi Regional Jets. The first delivery of an MRJ to any carrier [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] carrier Trans-State Airlines has signed a letter of intent for 100 Mitsibushi Regional Jets. The first delivery of an MRJ to any carrier [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AZ Sufferer</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZ Sufferer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Italian partner on the Sukhoi superjet is Alenia, part of Finmeccanica. Finmeccanica companies produce a decent amount of Boeing parts, together with being partner on ATRs and producing, among other things, Marine 1.

With Embraer, Bombardier, Sukhoi/Alenia, ATR and Mitsubishi all selling or developing what look to be, or are already, quality 50-150 seaters, is it really surprising that Boeing and Airbus seem so disinterested in developing new products for the category and seem to be content to reinforce their duopoly on bigger frames...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Italian partner on the Sukhoi superjet is Alenia, part of Finmeccanica. Finmeccanica companies produce a decent amount of Boeing parts, together with being partner on ATRs and producing, among other things, Marine 1.</p>
<p>With Embraer, Bombardier, Sukhoi/Alenia, ATR and Mitsubishi all selling or developing what look to be, or are already, quality 50-150 seaters, is it really surprising that Boeing and Airbus seem so disinterested in developing new products for the category and seem to be content to reinforce their duopoly on bigger frames&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80046&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Mitsubishi has an extensive history in aircraft production whichis worth noting:
http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/Mitsubishi/Aero58.htm
From an historical perspective, they have a rich legacy in aviation already.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No question about it.  But they don&#039;t build commercial airplanes.  dan is probably closest with the MU-2, but that was a little turboprop primarily used for corporate purposes.  It also hasn&#039;t been built in nearly 25 years.  They certainly are good at building pieces of airplanes, but that&#039;s very different than actually pushing a finished one out the door.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80065&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
As for other types, how about the Sukoi Superjet 100. In production now, and partly funded by Boeing and an Italian company. What happens when someone in Central/South America starts ordering them, that could be a very interesting flood gate to open.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, I&#039;ve been watching the Sukhoi project with great interest.  They&#039;ve received a lot of help from Boeing on that one, and they have a massive built-in market in Russia if it&#039;s a good plane.  I think that could do something, but it will be very hard for a western airline to operate a Russian airplane just because of the stigma.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80070&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wonko Beeblebrox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
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http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Vision%20Airlines.htm
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I always check Airfleets first, but I didn&#039;t really trust it for this one.  It doesn&#039;t even mention the props, and Vision has no reference of the 767s on their site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-80046" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">JM</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mitsubishi has an extensive history in aircraft production whichis worth noting:<br />
<a href="http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/Mitsubishi/Aero58.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/Mitsubishi/Aero58.htm</a><br />
From an historical perspective, they have a rich legacy in aviation already.
</p></blockquote>
<p>No question about it.  But they don&#8217;t build commercial airplanes.  dan is probably closest with the MU-2, but that was a little turboprop primarily used for corporate purposes.  It also hasn&#8217;t been built in nearly 25 years.  They certainly are good at building pieces of airplanes, but that&#8217;s very different than actually pushing a finished one out the door.</p>
<p><b><a href="#comment-80065" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Scott</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>
As for other types, how about the Sukoi Superjet 100. In production now, and partly funded by Boeing and an Italian company. What happens when someone in Central/South America starts ordering them, that could be a very interesting flood gate to open.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve been watching the Sukhoi project with great interest.  They&#8217;ve received a lot of help from Boeing on that one, and they have a massive built-in market in Russia if it&#8217;s a good plane.  I think that could do something, but it will be very hard for a western airline to operate a Russian airplane just because of the stigma.</p>
<p><b><a href="#comment-80070" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Wonko Beeblebrox</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>
<a href="http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Vision%20Airlines.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Vision%20Airlines.htm</a>
</p></blockquote>
<p>I always check Airfleets first, but I didn&#8217;t really trust it for this one.  It doesn&#8217;t even mention the props, and Vision has no reference of the 767s on their site.</p>
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		<title>By: dan powers</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the rice rocket...MU-2 mitsubishi was very succesfull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the rice rocket&#8230;MU-2 mitsubishi was very succesfull</p>
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		<title>By: Wonko Beeblebrox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wonko Beeblebrox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80042&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CF&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
Holy cow, you’re right. And when did those guys get 737s?!?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Vision%20Airlines.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-80042" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">CF</a></b> wrote:<br />
Holy cow, you’re right. And when did those guys get 737s?!?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Vision%20Airlines.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Vision%20Airlines.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bombardier CSeries, with a LOI from Lufthansa, and the same geared PW Turbofans, is likely to be more popular with operators as Bombardier have a more significant track record making passenger aircraft. 

As for other types, how about the Sukoi Superjet 100.  In production now, and partly funded by Boeing and an Italian company. What happens when someone in Central/South America starts ordering them, that could be a very interesting flood gate to open.

In the meantime, EMB own the market outright with the 190/195, until someone else can start delivering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bombardier CSeries, with a LOI from Lufthansa, and the same geared PW Turbofans, is likely to be more popular with operators as Bombardier have a more significant track record making passenger aircraft. </p>
<p>As for other types, how about the Sukoi Superjet 100.  In production now, and partly funded by Boeing and an Italian company. What happens when someone in Central/South America starts ordering them, that could be a very interesting flood gate to open.</p>
<p>In the meantime, EMB own the market outright with the 190/195, until someone else can start delivering.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the skepticism, they have a long road ahead of them.  


How much longer can Boeing and Airbus continue to ignore this part of the market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the skepticism, they have a long road ahead of them.  </p>
<p>How much longer can Boeing and Airbus continue to ignore this part of the market?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming that Mitsubishi and the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China are successful, the airplane market could be very good for airlines in the future.  As we saw with Boeing, Airbus forced Boeing to design more efficient airplanes, and build them more efficiently.  Competition has forced the manufacturers and engine makers to push their limits of technology.  In turn the airplanes are becoming cheaper to operate without sacrificing quality.  With more players on the market, sales tag prices will probably come down as well.  Boeing and Airbus showed more than once how willing they were to slash prices to sell planes.

While I agree that the MRJ doesn&#039;t look to be anything too spectacular in terms of the 787/A350/C Series,  I welcome more competition to continue the advancement of aircraft technology, and to potentially sell airplanes at a lower price which will allow airlines to lower their operating costs which could lead to lower fares and expansion of existing and new markets.  

Airlines have been killing each other&#039;s yield&#039;s to keep market share as travel has declined.  It will be nice to see some of the cost savings of increased aircraft competition passed back on to the airlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming that Mitsubishi and the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China are successful, the airplane market could be very good for airlines in the future.  As we saw with Boeing, Airbus forced Boeing to design more efficient airplanes, and build them more efficiently.  Competition has forced the manufacturers and engine makers to push their limits of technology.  In turn the airplanes are becoming cheaper to operate without sacrificing quality.  With more players on the market, sales tag prices will probably come down as well.  Boeing and Airbus showed more than once how willing they were to slash prices to sell planes.</p>
<p>While I agree that the MRJ doesn&#8217;t look to be anything too spectacular in terms of the 787/A350/C Series,  I welcome more competition to continue the advancement of aircraft technology, and to potentially sell airplanes at a lower price which will allow airlines to lower their operating costs which could lead to lower fares and expansion of existing and new markets.  </p>
<p>Airlines have been killing each other&#8217;s yield&#8217;s to keep market share as travel has declined.  It will be nice to see some of the cost savings of increased aircraft competition passed back on to the airlines.</p>
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		<title>By: enplaned</title>
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		<dc:creator>enplaned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it would be completely wrong (in many ways) to say that this Mitsubishi has a significant chance of being a Zero...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Zero</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it would be completely wrong (in many ways) to say that this Mitsubishi has a significant chance of being a Zero&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Zero" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Zero</a></p>
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