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		<title>By: Colt Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colt Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, I wonder if this includes APIS fines (not sending in international passenger information around the time the flight is closed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, I wonder if this includes APIS fines (not sending in international passenger information around the time the flight is closed).</p>
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		<title>By: sunil</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would like to see published figures on airline lawsuits...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would like to see published figures on airline lawsuits&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DOT Steps Up Enforcement on Airline Compensation for Lost or Delayed Luggage &#124; Peter Greenberg Worldwide</title>
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		<dc:creator>DOT Steps Up Enforcement on Airline Compensation for Lost or Delayed Luggage &#124; Peter Greenberg Worldwide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Barnard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Barnard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80201&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carol Castellanos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:

Talk about too little too late. Next time try to get your reply in within the first week of a post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ <a href="#comment-80201" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Carol Castellanos</a></b>:</p>
<p>Talk about too little too late. Next time try to get your reply in within the first week of a post.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Castellanos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Castellanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we are under new management we are now in the process of reaching out to our customers that may have not had the most satisfying experience while traveling with us. I have come across your comments and would like the opportunity to ensure that we have come full circle since originally fined. 

We encourage everyone to give us a first chance, another chance or simply the last chance to wow you. If you do happen to come across something that bothers you, do not hesitate to bring it to our attention before negatively blogging about us. You may also reach our consumer relations via our website, Spiritair.com by selecting the ‘Help’ tab at the top right corner of the home screen. In the search box please type contact us and select the ‘question/comment’ tab. We are committed to correcting our mistakes. 

We look forward to welcoming you on board a future Spirit Airlines flight! 


Carol Castellanos
Corporate Consumer Relations
Spirit Airlines</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we are under new management we are now in the process of reaching out to our customers that may have not had the most satisfying experience while traveling with us. I have come across your comments and would like the opportunity to ensure that we have come full circle since originally fined. </p>
<p>We encourage everyone to give us a first chance, another chance or simply the last chance to wow you. If you do happen to come across something that bothers you, do not hesitate to bring it to our attention before negatively blogging about us. You may also reach our consumer relations via our website, Spiritair.com by selecting the ‘Help’ tab at the top right corner of the home screen. In the search box please type contact us and select the ‘question/comment’ tab. We are committed to correcting our mistakes. </p>
<p>We look forward to welcoming you on board a future Spirit Airlines flight! </p>
<p>Carol Castellanos<br />
Corporate Consumer Relations<br />
Spirit Airlines</p>
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		<title>By: Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-79372&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trent880&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt; I used to think you could Ryanair (yeah, I made it a verb) customers to no end as long as the fare was low enough, but NK seems to have antagonized their customer base away.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I think that the Ryanair demographic (ie drunken yobbos wanting a one hour flight to somewhere where they can get falling down drunker than they started) is not selected from the sharpest knives in the drawer.  They probably think that the Ryanair staff are uber competent and friendly.

I don&#039;t think that the US has enough flyable destinations with exceptionally cheap booze to attract that demographic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-79372" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Trent880</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p> I used to think you could Ryanair (yeah, I made it a verb) customers to no end as long as the fare was low enough, but NK seems to have antagonized their customer base away.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that the Ryanair demographic (ie drunken yobbos wanting a one hour flight to somewhere where they can get falling down drunker than they started) is not selected from the sharpest knives in the drawer.  They probably think that the Ryanair staff are uber competent and friendly.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the US has enough flyable destinations with exceptionally cheap booze to attract that demographic.</p>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have credit from them ( ugh) that i refuse ti use.Its $1500.00 Ive been delaying it for over 2 years and keep rebooking and canceling to stay current. I refuse to fly them 
Maybe I&#039;ll donate it to charity :) 
P.S. They will probably see this and figure out how to make my credit expire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have credit from them ( ugh) that i refuse ti use.Its $1500.00 Ive been delaying it for over 2 years and keep rebooking and canceling to stay current. I refuse to fly them<br />
Maybe I&#8217;ll donate it to charity :)<br />
P.S. They will probably see this and figure out how to make my credit expire</p>
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		<title>By: dan powers</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spirit air has a lot of potential, with a HUB in FLL, only 1 type acft,  NK could be making a killing on flights to central america and south america. But they have to be competitive...Jetblue and southwest are LCC but don&#039;t cut corners. NK needs some new blood...new management.  The reason they went from 2x a day to 1x a week on FLL-LIM is because the word got around that by the time you pay for bags, cokes, water , and surly service...it cost the same as AA, DL CO or LA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spirit air has a lot of potential, with a HUB in FLL, only 1 type acft,  NK could be making a killing on flights to central america and south america. But they have to be competitive&#8230;Jetblue and southwest are LCC but don&#8217;t cut corners. NK needs some new blood&#8230;new management.  The reason they went from 2x a day to 1x a week on FLL-LIM is because the word got around that by the time you pay for bags, cokes, water , and surly service&#8230;it cost the same as AA, DL CO or LA</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-79376&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AStabAtEmpathy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Massive fine? Are you kidding? That amount is the equivalent of their CEO’s yearly benefit package (NOT including options). Laughable. They’ll book it as misc office costs and consider it cost of doing their profitable business of screwing pax. DOT has no teeth.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, it&#039;s still the largest they&#039;ve ever put out there for this kind of offense.  True that it&#039;s nothing compared to the maintenance fines that go out . . .

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-79377&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nicholas Barnard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder if they’ll do a “we paid for the bailout but you don’t have to” sale or something like that.
They’re known for taking any publicity they can get.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It sounds like you need to be working there!  This is right up their alley.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-79380&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JayB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Since July 1, this represents the 7th consent order DOT has issued against the more commonly-known air carriers: UA, regarding full-fare advertising, another for code-share disclosure; CO, for internet advertising; US, for code-share disclosure; HA, for code-share disclosure; DL, for denied boarding matters.
When you look at these cases, honestly, doesn’t every air carrier do about the same thing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This one is more wide-ranging than the others by a long shot, but yeah, everybody screws up.  A lot of these Spirit fines are the same crap everyone gets - like the advertising thing.  But some are more serious, and that&#039;s why this one is worth keeping an eye on, I think.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-79388&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
But do any airlines actually do this? I’ve never seen option A or B, and I fly about 18 roundtrips a year.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If they aren&#039;t doing it, then you should write the DOT and let them know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-79376" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">AStabAtEmpathy</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Massive fine? Are you kidding? That amount is the equivalent of their CEO’s yearly benefit package (NOT including options). Laughable. They’ll book it as misc office costs and consider it cost of doing their profitable business of screwing pax. DOT has no teeth.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s still the largest they&#8217;ve ever put out there for this kind of offense.  True that it&#8217;s nothing compared to the maintenance fines that go out . . .</p>
<p><b><a href="#comment-79377" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Nicholas Barnard</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I wonder if they’ll do a “we paid for the bailout but you don’t have to” sale or something like that.<br />
They’re known for taking any publicity they can get.
</p></blockquote>
<p>It sounds like you need to be working there!  This is right up their alley.</p>
<p><b><a href="#comment-79380" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">JayB</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Since July 1, this represents the 7th consent order DOT has issued against the more commonly-known air carriers: UA, regarding full-fare advertising, another for code-share disclosure; CO, for internet advertising; US, for code-share disclosure; HA, for code-share disclosure; DL, for denied boarding matters.<br />
When you look at these cases, honestly, doesn’t every air carrier do about the same thing?</p></blockquote>
<p>This one is more wide-ranging than the others by a long shot, but yeah, everybody screws up.  A lot of these Spirit fines are the same crap everyone gets &#8211; like the advertising thing.  But some are more serious, and that&#8217;s why this one is worth keeping an eye on, I think.</p>
<p><b><a href="#comment-79388" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Rob</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>
But do any airlines actually do this? I’ve never seen option A or B, and I fly about 18 roundtrips a year.
</p></blockquote>
<p>If they aren&#8217;t doing it, then you should write the DOT and let them know!</p>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
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		<dc:creator>David M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-79388&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
But do any airlines actually do this? I’ve never seen option A or B, and I fly about 18 roundtrips a year.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Often (a) would be printed in the ticket jacket that the agent would put your boarding passes and baggage claim tags in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-79388" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Rob</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>
But do any airlines actually do this? I’ve never seen option A or B, and I fly about 18 roundtrips a year.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Often (a) would be printed in the ticket jacket that the agent would put your boarding passes and baggage claim tags in.</p>
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