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	<title>Comments on: Frontier Sends A319s to Milwaukee, Republic Sends Embraers to Denver</title>
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		<title>By: Midwest and Frontier Start Swapping Airplanes in the Middle of the Day &#124; Travel-Blogs.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midwest and Frontier Start Swapping Airplanes in the Middle of the Day &#124; Travel-Blogs.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] talked about how Republic&#8217;s acquisition of Frontier and Midwest has given the carrier tremendous flexibility in moving its airplanes around between its different subsidiaries. We&#8217;ve already seen announcements that Frontier will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] talked about how Republic&#8217;s acquisition of Frontier and Midwest has given the carrier tremendous flexibility in moving its airplanes around between its different subsidiaries. We&#8217;ve already seen announcements that Frontier will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question, Tank. I have not heard anything to lead me to believe that the seating on the Frontier airplanes will be altered for Midwest. As far as I know so far, only the 190s are scheduled to get signature seats at this point, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Tank. I have not heard anything to lead me to believe that the seating on the Frontier airplanes will be altered for Midwest. As far as I know so far, only the 190s are scheduled to get signature seats at this point, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im just curious as to what will happen to Midwest Signature seats. I booked one for a December flight and am not pleased with the switch to Frontier A319 planes. Will they put signature seating in this aircraft?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im just curious as to what will happen to Midwest Signature seats. I booked one for a December flight and am not pleased with the switch to Frontier A319 planes. Will they put signature seating in this aircraft?</p>
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		<title>By: Roundup: End of September Edition &#124; Flight Wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roundup: End of September Edition &#124; Flight Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cranky Flier reports that the cross-integration of Frontier and Midwest Airlines under the Republic Airways banner has [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cranky Flier reports that the cross-integration of Frontier and Midwest Airlines under the Republic Airways banner has [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are plenty of good ideas out there.  The key in business is execution.  Can Republic really pull this off?  It sounds like right off the bat they&#039;re going to have some Frontier customers disappointed by the lack of TV and no animal on the tail.  Those might not sound like a big deal but they&#039;re a big part of why Frontier is Frontier.  

The key for Republic now is not going to be ideas but execution.  I don&#039;t have a lot of faith that they&#039;re going to pull off running + building not one but 2 brands - Midwest and Frontier - given that as a company they&#039;ve never had to sell the public on even just one before this.  I hope they succeed but I suspect they&#039;ve bitten off more than they can chew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are plenty of good ideas out there.  The key in business is execution.  Can Republic really pull this off?  It sounds like right off the bat they&#8217;re going to have some Frontier customers disappointed by the lack of TV and no animal on the tail.  Those might not sound like a big deal but they&#8217;re a big part of why Frontier is Frontier.  </p>
<p>The key for Republic now is not going to be ideas but execution.  I don&#8217;t have a lot of faith that they&#8217;re going to pull off running + building not one but 2 brands &#8211; Midwest and Frontier &#8211; given that as a company they&#8217;ve never had to sell the public on even just one before this.  I hope they succeed but I suspect they&#8217;ve bitten off more than they can chew.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-79516&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dan powers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I am not sure how long these comments are stored…but I predict this whole experiment….republic=operating YX , F9, chataqua,mokulele, shuttle america, Lynx on 7 separte certificates…with 10 types of aircraft a318, a319,a320, B717, emb190, emb 170, emb 145, dhc8-400, crj-200, ce-208….. will not work.
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These comments will be here as long as I keep paying the hosting bill.

Right away they&#039;re paring down their fleets and certificates.  The 717s are gone in the next couple months and then the Midwest certificate won&#039;t have any planes on it.  

Frontier will keep its certificate to fly Airbus aircraft, but I believe the 318s are going away.

Chautauqua will keep flying the 35-50 seat regional jets.

Republic and Shuttle America will both fly the 70 to 100 seat Embraer jets (because of scope clauses they ended up having to create another subsidiary).

Lynx is the Q400 operator.

I would say that Mokulele is the wildcard b/c those Cessnas are probably not going to stick around.  If those go away, then Mokulele&#039;s certificate does too.

Were they operating this many different brands I would be concerned, but really they have only 3 brands right now and 5 families of aircraft (excluding the Cessnas).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-79516" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">dan powers</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am not sure how long these comments are stored…but I predict this whole experiment….republic=operating YX , F9, chataqua,mokulele, shuttle america, Lynx on 7 separte certificates…with 10 types of aircraft a318, a319,a320, B717, emb190, emb 170, emb 145, dhc8-400, crj-200, ce-208….. will not work.
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<p>These comments will be here as long as I keep paying the hosting bill.</p>
<p>Right away they&#8217;re paring down their fleets and certificates.  The 717s are gone in the next couple months and then the Midwest certificate won&#8217;t have any planes on it.  </p>
<p>Frontier will keep its certificate to fly Airbus aircraft, but I believe the 318s are going away.</p>
<p>Chautauqua will keep flying the 35-50 seat regional jets.</p>
<p>Republic and Shuttle America will both fly the 70 to 100 seat Embraer jets (because of scope clauses they ended up having to create another subsidiary).</p>
<p>Lynx is the Q400 operator.</p>
<p>I would say that Mokulele is the wildcard b/c those Cessnas are probably not going to stick around.  If those go away, then Mokulele&#8217;s certificate does too.</p>
<p>Were they operating this many different brands I would be concerned, but really they have only 3 brands right now and 5 families of aircraft (excluding the Cessnas).</p>
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		<title>By: dan powers</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure how long these comments are stored...but I predict this whole experiment....republic=operating YX , F9, chataqua,mokulele, shuttle america, Lynx  on 7 separte certificates...with 10 types of aircraft  a318, a319,a320, B717, emb190, emb 170, emb 145, dhc8-400, crj-200, ce-208..... will not work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure how long these comments are stored&#8230;but I predict this whole experiment&#8230;.republic=operating YX , F9, chataqua,mokulele, shuttle america, Lynx  on 7 separte certificates&#8230;with 10 types of aircraft  a318, a319,a320, B717, emb190, emb 170, emb 145, dhc8-400, crj-200, ce-208&#8230;.. will not work.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-79331&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oliver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:

Let us not forget that US Airways is contemplating the removing the 190s from their fleet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ <a href="#comment-79331" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Oliver</a></b>:</p>
<p>Let us not forget that US Airways is contemplating the removing the 190s from their fleet.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew 

United&#039;s TED A320s had oven(s) in the back galley, supposedly for crew meals.  UA&#039;s former shuttle 737 had no ovens, and thus even after they disbanded the Shuttle experiment, no hot food on those planes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew </p>
<p>United&#8217;s TED A320s had oven(s) in the back galley, supposedly for crew meals.  UA&#8217;s former shuttle 737 had no ovens, and thus even after they disbanded the Shuttle experiment, no hot food on those planes.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frontier&#039;s A319&#039;s do have ovens. Last time I flew Frontier I was loitering up in the galley waiting for the loo. Being curious and obnoxious, I of course look around at everything and saw them -- two, side by side above where the carts stow. I thought it was weird that they were there, since Frontier doesn&#039;t serve any hot meals, but figured all larger planes had them or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frontier&#8217;s A319&#8217;s do have ovens. Last time I flew Frontier I was loitering up in the galley waiting for the loo. Being curious and obnoxious, I of course look around at everything and saw them &#8212; two, side by side above where the carts stow. I thought it was weird that they were there, since Frontier doesn&#8217;t serve any hot meals, but figured all larger planes had them or something.</p>
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