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	<title>Comments on: Ryanair Wants To Let People Bring Unlimited Carry On Bags</title>
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		<title>By: Pilot Salary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pilot Salary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of the security issues, what about the safety issues of having so much luggage in the cabin?  Nearly all narrow body aircraft I fly in as a passenger, I see  the cabin baggage lockers full or overflowing.  Where are they going to fit the larger luggage? We can&#039;t forget the safety aspect that in an emergency evacuation people will be struggling to get out as it is, let alone tripping over luggage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the security issues, what about the safety issues of having so much luggage in the cabin?  Nearly all narrow body aircraft I fly in as a passenger, I see  the cabin baggage lockers full or overflowing.  Where are they going to fit the larger luggage? We can&#8217;t forget the safety aspect that in an emergency evacuation people will be struggling to get out as it is, let alone tripping over luggage.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Barnard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Barnard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure it isn&#039;t against IATA regulations as every US Airline I&#039;ve been on has done it, and I&#039;m sure many other airlines do it.  As long as the bag is completely under the seat its fine..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure it isn&#8217;t against IATA regulations as every US Airline I&#8217;ve been on has done it, and I&#8217;m sure many other airlines do it.  As long as the bag is completely under the seat its fine..</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the current rules there is usually not enough space for all the carry-on bags &amp;  you are being forced to put your bags under the seat in front.  This of course leaves you with no leg room.  I am trying to find out if that practice contravenes any IATA regulations.   On my last Ryanair flight I refused to do so &amp; I hope that more and more people will do the same.  I think they must be working up to saying that if no overhead racks are available you will have to put your bags in the hold and be charged £35 for the privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the current rules there is usually not enough space for all the carry-on bags &amp;  you are being forced to put your bags under the seat in front.  This of course leaves you with no leg room.  I am trying to find out if that practice contravenes any IATA regulations.   On my last Ryanair flight I refused to do so &amp; I hope that more and more people will do the same.  I think they must be working up to saying that if no overhead racks are available you will have to put your bags in the hold and be charged £35 for the privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrasM</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrasM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryanair is nothing but cheap, let&#039;s do a little maths:

For a BHX-VIE flight with Lufthansa I pay around GBP120-150 return including everything including a pleasant flight :).

Ryanair sais: our tickets are only GBP40 return.But (and there&#039;s always a but) :

airport taxes: add ~40 each way (so we are on 120now).

web check in (!!!): 5*2=10 (130)
(note that airport check-in desk will charge you GBP/EUR 40 on top of that if you don&#039;t check in online)
**EXTRAS
check in luggage? if so, add 30 for 1piece of max 15kg luggage (that makes it 160)
you pay extra of course for insurance(epending on destination), priority boarding(GBP5), sms itinerary...

**Check out
if that wans&#039;t enough, at the checkout you still get some more, administration fees: GBP/EUR 5/flight/passenger that is an extra tenner for a return flight if you&#039;re travelling alone. 

So to sum up, I&#039;d normally  pay 170 for a return. Occasionally they don&#039;t charge airport taxes, so going with a carry-on only can be as cheap as 70. But that&#039;s not usually the case. Other than that their flight attendants are often rude, also they charge you for refreshments on board..
I&#039;d say it&#039;s ok if you aren&#039;t a frequent traveller, but at the end of the day it makes you think, is it really cheaper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryanair is nothing but cheap, let&#8217;s do a little maths:</p>
<p>For a BHX-VIE flight with Lufthansa I pay around GBP120-150 return including everything including a pleasant flight :).</p>
<p>Ryanair sais: our tickets are only GBP40 return.But (and there&#8217;s always a but) :</p>
<p>airport taxes: add ~40 each way (so we are on 120now).</p>
<p>web check in (!!!): 5*2=10 (130)<br />
(note that airport check-in desk will charge you GBP/EUR 40 on top of that if you don&#8217;t check in online)<br />
**EXTRAS<br />
check in luggage? if so, add 30 for 1piece of max 15kg luggage (that makes it 160)<br />
you pay extra of course for insurance(epending on destination), priority boarding(GBP5), sms itinerary&#8230;</p>
<p>**Check out<br />
if that wans&#8217;t enough, at the checkout you still get some more, administration fees: GBP/EUR 5/flight/passenger that is an extra tenner for a return flight if you&#8217;re travelling alone. </p>
<p>So to sum up, I&#8217;d normally  pay 170 for a return. Occasionally they don&#8217;t charge airport taxes, so going with a carry-on only can be as cheap as 70. But that&#8217;s not usually the case. Other than that their flight attendants are often rude, also they charge you for refreshments on board..<br />
I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s ok if you aren&#8217;t a frequent traveller, but at the end of the day it makes you think, is it really cheaper?</p>
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		<title>By: Juda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another advertising stunt!! Due to security reason. the Irish transport Minister, already shot down Ryanair proposals to force passengers to carry their bags all the way to the tarmac beside an aircraft.

http://www.independent.ie/travel/travel-advice/ryanairs-carry-own-bag-plan-blocked-1815714.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another advertising stunt!! Due to security reason. the Irish transport Minister, already shot down Ryanair proposals to force passengers to carry their bags all the way to the tarmac beside an aircraft.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.ie/travel/travel-advice/ryanairs-carry-own-bag-plan-blocked-1815714.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.ie/travel/travel-advice/ryanairs-carry-own-bag-plan-blocked-1815714.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kat - I agree that this would be a nightmare from a procedural standpoint, but hey, if Ryanair could save a couple bucks . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kat &#8211; I agree that this would be a nightmare from a procedural standpoint, but hey, if Ryanair could save a couple bucks . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that while this sounds alright in theory, in practice I can imagine it causing absolute chaos. How would they manage the process exactly? I can imagine people crowding onto the plane, frantically cramming their belongings anywhere they will fit and throwing a tantrum whenever a member of staff says they will have to start stowing bags in the normal cargo hold. Then there would be more chaos as the bags were transported out of the plane again and into the cargo hold. While baggage check-in itself is rather time-consuming, I think this would end up being just as bad, if not worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that while this sounds alright in theory, in practice I can imagine it causing absolute chaos. How would they manage the process exactly? I can imagine people crowding onto the plane, frantically cramming their belongings anywhere they will fit and throwing a tantrum whenever a member of staff says they will have to start stowing bags in the normal cargo hold. Then there would be more chaos as the bags were transported out of the plane again and into the cargo hold. While baggage check-in itself is rather time-consuming, I think this would end up being just as bad, if not worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not over impressed by this arguement. Hard to believe you do not work for Ryan Air. As a way to illustrate their line of thought [money money money them them them] Not being able to pool your baggage allowance is a cheap trick. If two people travelling together cannot use the same bag then they may incur extra cost because of the weight of two bags not one. Cheap trick! All his ideas are dominated by him making more money at our expense. Pity nice planes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not over impressed by this arguement. Hard to believe you do not work for Ryan Air. As a way to illustrate their line of thought [money money money them them them] Not being able to pool your baggage allowance is a cheap trick. If two people travelling together cannot use the same bag then they may incur extra cost because of the weight of two bags not one. Cheap trick! All his ideas are dominated by him making more money at our expense. Pity nice planes.</p>
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		<title>By: SK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as guns, liquids, etc. are concerned, since all luggage would now have to taken by the passengers themselves through security, &lt;i&gt;&quot;under Ryanair&#039;s proposed policy, passengers would not be allowed to pack liquids, razors and other items now prohibited in carry-on baggage, despite having the luggage stored in the aircraft&#039;s cargo hold.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;. (From a relevant WSJ &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090623-705039.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as guns, liquids, etc. are concerned, since all luggage would now have to taken by the passengers themselves through security, <i>&#8220;under Ryanair&#8217;s proposed policy, passengers would not be allowed to pack liquids, razors and other items now prohibited in carry-on baggage, despite having the luggage stored in the aircraft&#8217;s cargo hold.&#8221;</i>. (From a relevant WSJ <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090623-705039.html" rel="nofollow">article</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Loan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is an interesting idea that fits Ryanair business model and customer base, and could work out with more thinking.
For odd-sized luggage or anything that is not allowed through TSA, passengers could always ship them in advance. Or Ryanair could have an agreement with other airlines that serve the same markets for those that realize in the last minute they want/have to check in. Passengers with check-in luggages have to pay extra in either case, with Ryanair or someone else. Ryanair would save money, and the blame of lost/missing luggage.
If fire arms are banned, I wonder what other contents require passengers travel with their luggage? It&#039;s not uncommon for one to check in luggage for one flight and then stand by for another, same airline or not.
At the gate, Ryanair would need more time. Maybe boarding 45min before departure instead of 30min? What is the average turn-around time for Ryanair planes? Do their pilots get paid while waiting at that gate? I don&#039;t know much to say about weight balance. And is it possible that there&#039;s more luggage than  the cargo hold capacity?
If they can work out the logistics at the gate, I could see that this idea might drive more local passengers to Ryanair, and even frequent flyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is an interesting idea that fits Ryanair business model and customer base, and could work out with more thinking.<br />
For odd-sized luggage or anything that is not allowed through TSA, passengers could always ship them in advance. Or Ryanair could have an agreement with other airlines that serve the same markets for those that realize in the last minute they want/have to check in. Passengers with check-in luggages have to pay extra in either case, with Ryanair or someone else. Ryanair would save money, and the blame of lost/missing luggage.<br />
If fire arms are banned, I wonder what other contents require passengers travel with their luggage? It&#8217;s not uncommon for one to check in luggage for one flight and then stand by for another, same airline or not.<br />
At the gate, Ryanair would need more time. Maybe boarding 45min before departure instead of 30min? What is the average turn-around time for Ryanair planes? Do their pilots get paid while waiting at that gate? I don&#8217;t know much to say about weight balance. And is it possible that there&#8217;s more luggage than  the cargo hold capacity?<br />
If they can work out the logistics at the gate, I could see that this idea might drive more local passengers to Ryanair, and even frequent flyers.</p>
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