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	<title>Comments on: Flying In to Jackson Hole (Trip Report)</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75619</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tivoboy Yes I was using an electronic device, with the captain&#039;s permission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tivoboy Yes I was using an electronic device, with the captain&#8217;s permission.</p>
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		<title>By: tivoboy</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75614</link>
		<dc:creator>tivoboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice video!

but, does this mean that you were using an electronic device with AN ON OFF SWITCH during an active landing?

not to be a nit, but shame on you.</description>
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<p>but, does this mean that you were using an electronic device with AN ON OFF SWITCH during an active landing?</p>
<p>not to be a nit, but shame on you.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75540</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video, Matt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video, Matt.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75533</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JAC also had (?has) a huge sign at one of the runway reminding pilots of the handbrake turn they have to do once in the air, to avoid overflying the Park... Always used to make me laugh - surely they didn&#039;t need reminding at that late stage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JAC also had (?has) a huge sign at one of the runway reminding pilots of the handbrake turn they have to do once in the air, to avoid overflying the Park&#8230; Always used to make me laugh &#8211; surely they didn&#8217;t need reminding at that late stage!</p>
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		<title>By: A Quick Trip Report: Flying with 3 Year Olds &#124; Online Travel Review</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75532</link>
		<dc:creator>A Quick Trip Report: Flying with 3 Year Olds &#124; Online Travel Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what I can tell from other sites, you airline dorks love your trip reports (I mean that entirely with love) with lots of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what I can tell from other sites, you airline dorks love your trip reports (I mean that entirely with love) with lots of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75525</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a video of the approach into JAC from the pointy end. I shot this about a year ago (I was in the jumpseat).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df66_n7YILM&amp;fmt=18</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a video of the approach into JAC from the pointy end. I shot this about a year ago (I was in the jumpseat).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df66_n7YILM&#038;fmt=18" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df66_n7YILM&#038;fmt=18</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75517</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too much wavy gravy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much wavy gravy!</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75513</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oldiesfan6479 - I will blame scheduling in this case.  It&#039;s not like Orange County where you have a bunch of airplane waiting to push at exactly the same time.  There is a US Airways and Delta flight at 645a and an Alaska flight at 655a.  JetBlue has a flight at 7a and another at 715a and that&#039;s the entire pre-8a rush.   When Delta loads up and is ready to push at 645a, there will always be waiting involved.  It takes 5 minutes to push back and taxi to the end of the runway, so the 15 minute window does no good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldiesfan6479 &#8211; I will blame scheduling in this case.  It&#8217;s not like Orange County where you have a bunch of airplane waiting to push at exactly the same time.  There is a US Airways and Delta flight at 645a and an Alaska flight at 655a.  JetBlue has a flight at 7a and another at 715a and that&#8217;s the entire pre-8a rush.   When Delta loads up and is ready to push at 645a, there will always be waiting involved.  It takes 5 minutes to push back and taxi to the end of the runway, so the 15 minute window does no good.</p>
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		<title>By: oldiesfan6479</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldiesfan6479</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the 0645 push at LGB:

Unless you were being sarcastic, don&#039;t blame DL scheduling.  At the risk of incurring the wrath of ALPO, it was the pilot who wasn&#039;t up to speed on the procedure.

As at SNA, with your 06XX scheduled, you want to push on time and get out there ASAP to the hold short and (hopefully) be first in line when the tower says &quot;OK it&#039;s 0700, the airport bureaucrats and NIMBYs can&#039;t touch you now...Brettair six-twelve, cleared for takeoff runway three-zero.

Yeah, you sit there burning fuel, but hey--unless Al Gore or the Messiah is on board (Al--maybe, the Bamster--not a chance), don&#039;t sweat it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the 0645 push at LGB:</p>
<p>Unless you were being sarcastic, don&#8217;t blame DL scheduling.  At the risk of incurring the wrath of ALPO, it was the pilot who wasn&#8217;t up to speed on the procedure.</p>
<p>As at SNA, with your 06XX scheduled, you want to push on time and get out there ASAP to the hold short and (hopefully) be first in line when the tower says &#8220;OK it&#8217;s 0700, the airport bureaucrats and NIMBYs can&#8217;t touch you now&#8230;Brettair six-twelve, cleared for takeoff runway three-zero.</p>
<p>Yeah, you sit there burning fuel, but hey&#8211;unless Al Gore or the Messiah is on board (Al&#8211;maybe, the Bamster&#8211;not a chance), don&#8217;t sweat it!</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/06/29/flying-in-to-jackson-hole-trip-report/comment-page-1/#comment-75499</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric - Uh, yeah, uh, I didn&#039;t take that video.  It was, um, my seatmate.  Yeah, that&#039;s the ticket.  (See the lengths I go through to satisfy my readers!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8211; Uh, yeah, uh, I didn&#8217;t take that video.  It was, um, my seatmate.  Yeah, that&#8217;s the ticket.  (See the lengths I go through to satisfy my readers!)</p>
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