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	<title>Comments on: Long Beach City Council Responds to JetBlue with Mixed Signals</title>
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		<title>By: AboutAirportParking.com Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>AboutAirportParking.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But the most important upgrade, I think is a terminal expansion, which means that the current double-wide trailers utilized by JetBlue and other airlines will be gone over the next few years, a move that will make both airlines and their passengers very happy. In fact, the delays on airport upgrades have made JetBlue, the airport&#039;s biggest tenant, pretty angry. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But the most important upgrade, I think is a terminal expansion, which means that the current double-wide trailers utilized by JetBlue and other airlines will be gone over the next few years, a move that will make both airlines and their passengers very happy. In fact, the delays on airport upgrades have made JetBlue, the airport&#39;s biggest tenant, pretty angry. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>HSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They just need to keep their promise.  Just think of the short and long term effect if they leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just need to keep their promise.  Just think of the short and long term effect if they leave.</p>
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		<title>By: JetBlue Puzzlers &#124; Flight Wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>JetBlue Puzzlers &#124; Flight Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lived up to its agreement made when they moved in nine years ago to upgrade the facilities. This issue recently caused a fuss when CEO Dave Barger mentioned it might cause them to leave the airport in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lived up to its agreement made when they moved in nine years ago to upgrade the facilities. This issue recently caused a fuss when CEO Dave Barger mentioned it might cause them to leave the airport in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SEAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If things don&#039;t work out for JetBlue they could always divert flights to LAX OR SNA. Good work Long Beach, what do you do for an encore?

As a foot note: my girlfriend&#039;s aunt lived not far from the airport &amp; visiting her in 2005 we herd the planes taking off. The weird thing was you could go 2 hours whithout any noise &amp; you forget the airport is 10 minutes away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If things don&#8217;t work out for JetBlue they could always divert flights to LAX OR SNA. Good work Long Beach, what do you do for an encore?</p>
<p>As a foot note: my girlfriend&#8217;s aunt lived not far from the airport &amp; visiting her in 2005 we herd the planes taking off. The weird thing was you could go 2 hours whithout any noise &amp; you forget the airport is 10 minutes away.</p>
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		<title>By: Chriatine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chriatine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because a resident doesn&#039;t want an airport in their city doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re against all business. I don&#039;t want a loud polluting business in my city, and would love it if Jet Blue left Long Beach. And so what if I was anti-business? Does business always equal good? Long Beach has more tax revenue than a lot of cities, so one less airline wouldn&#039;t bring the city to it&#039;s knees. 
I don&#039;t like private airplanes either, and believe owning one is just a loud hobby. I don&#039;t think they should be allowed to fly over quiet neighborhoods. Well, quiet until disturbed by a loud airplane. You should not be surprised that there are differences of opinion on the Jet Blue issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because a resident doesn&#8217;t want an airport in their city doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re against all business. I don&#8217;t want a loud polluting business in my city, and would love it if Jet Blue left Long Beach. And so what if I was anti-business? Does business always equal good? Long Beach has more tax revenue than a lot of cities, so one less airline wouldn&#8217;t bring the city to it&#8217;s knees.<br />
I don&#8217;t like private airplanes either, and believe owning one is just a loud hobby. I don&#8217;t think they should be allowed to fly over quiet neighborhoods. Well, quiet until disturbed by a loud airplane. You should not be surprised that there are differences of opinion on the Jet Blue issue.</p>
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		<title>By: triphow.com &#187; CrankyFlier Crashes Into Long Beach-Jetblue Spat</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2009/04/09/long-beach-city-council-responds-to-jetblue-with-mixed-signals/comment-page-1/#comment-72472</link>
		<dc:creator>triphow.com &#187; CrankyFlier Crashes Into Long Beach-Jetblue Spat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] trying to find someone to blame, just in case things got out of hand. And this is where it gets interesting. Councilwoman Gerrie Schipske - &#8220;I do think that the reporting of the comment that was, by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] trying to find someone to blame, just in case things got out of hand. And this is where it gets interesting. Councilwoman Gerrie Schipske - &#8220;I do think that the reporting of the comment that was, by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reading all of the posts about the Long Beach Mayor and City Council, it is clearly evident how out of touch they are with reality.  

The fact that they don’t even know the CEO’s name (!) says that they do not know what is going on in their own city.  (Unfortunately, it also means that Mr. Barger does not have a big enough presence in Long Beach -- given that they regard us [yes, I live here], as a ‘Focus City’) 

Let’s face it, the politicians attempted to ‘shoot the messenger’ simply because they wanted to shift the focus away from the fact that they have completely bungled the relationship with a -- correction, THE -- major airport tenant.  Almost 80% of the passengers flying out of LGB are on JetBlue.

Brett made an observation that it didn’t matter if the comments were written on a bathroom wall.  Fact is, the CEO of a $2.5 billion airline does not grant interviews to just anyone.  The fact that _Mr. Barger_ respects Cranky should be the telling indicator of the importance of the blog.

In 2009, we have seen 2 Pulitzer Prize winning newspapers cease publication (Seattle P-I and Rocky Mountain News).  Independent journalism is the way of the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading all of the posts about the Long Beach Mayor and City Council, it is clearly evident how out of touch they are with reality.  </p>
<p>The fact that they don’t even know the CEO’s name (!) says that they do not know what is going on in their own city.  (Unfortunately, it also means that Mr. Barger does not have a big enough presence in Long Beach &#8212; given that they regard us [yes, I live here], as a ‘Focus City’) </p>
<p>Let’s face it, the politicians attempted to ‘shoot the messenger’ simply because they wanted to shift the focus away from the fact that they have completely bungled the relationship with a &#8212; correction, THE &#8212; major airport tenant.  Almost 80% of the passengers flying out of LGB are on JetBlue.</p>
<p>Brett made an observation that it didn’t matter if the comments were written on a bathroom wall.  Fact is, the CEO of a $2.5 billion airline does not grant interviews to just anyone.  The fact that _Mr. Barger_ respects Cranky should be the telling indicator of the importance of the blog.</p>
<p>In 2009, we have seen 2 Pulitzer Prize winning newspapers cease publication (Seattle P-I and Rocky Mountain News).  Independent journalism is the way of the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that the only negative comment is an anti-business one from a Long Beach resident.  I wonder if Christine has realized that shops are actually businesses so there is a contradiction right there.  Those businesses need to be supplied, too.  Surely better for the city tax base to have those businesses in the Long Beach area.  And following her logic no banks should have an office in Long Beach either.  Oh, and   I certainly agree with her comment that property tax should be spent wisely, but I don&#039;t think she has calculated how much her property tax would increase if JetBlue were to pull out.  JetBlue (and the other airlines) pump an awful lot of money into the local economy both directly (through fees and taxes) and indirectly through their customers spending money in the local area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that the only negative comment is an anti-business one from a Long Beach resident.  I wonder if Christine has realized that shops are actually businesses so there is a contradiction right there.  Those businesses need to be supplied, too.  Surely better for the city tax base to have those businesses in the Long Beach area.  And following her logic no banks should have an office in Long Beach either.  Oh, and   I certainly agree with her comment that property tax should be spent wisely, but I don&#8217;t think she has calculated how much her property tax would increase if JetBlue were to pull out.  JetBlue (and the other airlines) pump an awful lot of money into the local economy both directly (through fees and taxes) and indirectly through their customers spending money in the local area.</p>
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		<title>By: LB Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>LB Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cranky Flier, thank you for your thoughtful and through reporting.

As usual, Tonia Reyes Uranga makes a  uninformed comment. She is a poor public servant as far as I can tell. A few years ago she was the director of a EDD/Youth Employment Program grant program in Orange County that somehow managed to not get it&#039;s grant funding renewed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cranky Flier, thank you for your thoughtful and through reporting.</p>
<p>As usual, Tonia Reyes Uranga makes a  uninformed comment. She is a poor public servant as far as I can tell. A few years ago she was the director of a EDD/Youth Employment Program grant program in Orange County that somehow managed to not get it&#8217;s grant funding renewed.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Thill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Thill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope Jet Blue goes away and stays away. We may find that giving into whatever big buisness wants, despite the fact that their noise pollutes our neighborhoods, can be a big mistake. Just like allowing Wall Street, banks and other businesses to do whatever they wanted. I&#039;ve watched Long Beach council make so many stupid mistakes over the last 30 years of living here. They just don&#039;t have a sense of what a nice city should be. It&#039;s not business people want, it&#039;s peace and quiet. It&#039;s good schools, parks, housing, quality shopping and community leaders that care about us. Spend my property tax wisely and we will get by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope Jet Blue goes away and stays away. We may find that giving into whatever big buisness wants, despite the fact that their noise pollutes our neighborhoods, can be a big mistake. Just like allowing Wall Street, banks and other businesses to do whatever they wanted. I&#8217;ve watched Long Beach council make so many stupid mistakes over the last 30 years of living here. They just don&#8217;t have a sense of what a nice city should be. It&#8217;s not business people want, it&#8217;s peace and quiet. It&#8217;s good schools, parks, housing, quality shopping and community leaders that care about us. Spend my property tax wisely and we will get by.</p>
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