Comments on: Across the Aisle from JetBlue CEO Dave Barger Part 1: Keeping the Product Fresh and Long Beach Troubles http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:32:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: What’s Going on at Long Beach Airport? - AirplanePatches.com http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-88959 What’s Going on at Long Beach Airport? - AirplanePatches.com Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:01:33 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-88959 [...] in March, the Cranky Flier touched off a fire storm after he posted an interview with JetBlue CEO David Barger, who used the [...] [...] in March, the Cranky Flier touched off a fire storm after he posted an interview with JetBlue CEO David Barger, who used the [...]

]]> By: LGBresident http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72874 LGBresident Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:45:41 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72874 Note to Bob Foster: Please remove your self aggrandizing lighted photo from the LGB passenger departure lounge. You have no right whatsoever to perch yourself in the middle of the airport you have worked so dilligently to impede. Note to Bob Foster: Please remove your self aggrandizing lighted photo from the LGB passenger departure lounge. You have no right whatsoever to perch yourself in the middle of the airport you have worked so dilligently to impede.

]]> By: Bernie's Transportation Communications Newsletter - April 13, 2009 | Transport Gooru http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72516 Bernie's Transportation Communications Newsletter - April 13, 2009 | Transport Gooru Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:56:50 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72516 [...] Link to The Cranky Flier blog:  http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-p... [...] [...] Link to The Cranky Flier blog:  http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-p... [...]

]]> By: All Together Now: Bloggers Are Real Media! « Catching Flack http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72487 All Together Now: Bloggers Are Real Media! « Catching Flack Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:55:14 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72487 [...] story: An aviation blog called “The Cranky Flier” got a good little story: that JetBlue was frustrated with the pace of renovation at Long Beach Airport and would consider [...] [...] story: An aviation blog called “The Cranky Flier” got a good little story: that JetBlue was frustrated with the pace of renovation at Long Beach Airport and would consider [...]

]]> By: triphow.com » CrankyFlier Crashes Into Long Beach-Jetblue Spat http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72471 triphow.com » CrankyFlier Crashes Into Long Beach-Jetblue Spat Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:34:25 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72471 [...] apparently had a chance for a sit-down interview with Jetblue CEO Dave Barger, in which Barger let off steam about Jetblue’s frustration with [...] [...] apparently had a chance for a sit-down interview with Jetblue CEO Dave Barger, in which Barger let off steam about Jetblue’s frustration with [...]

]]> By: JetBlue Leaving Long Beach? NOT « Airviation Blog http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72273 JetBlue Leaving Long Beach? NOT « Airviation Blog Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:55:36 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72273 [...] Brett Synders interview with CEO of JetBlue Dave Barger and his remark about the possibility of leaving Long [...] [...] Brett Synders interview with CEO of JetBlue Dave Barger and his remark about the possibility of leaving Long [...]

]]> By: CF http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72208 CF Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:19:55 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72208 Joe - FYI, airport revenues are required to stay on-airport. So it's not going into city coffers unless they're breaking the law, and I have never seen any proof or even accusation of that with Long Beach. Also, you clearly don't spend much time in Long Beach, because there are several very nice neighborhoods here. Joe – FYI, airport revenues are required to stay on-airport. So it’s not going into city coffers unless they’re breaking the law, and I have never seen any proof or even accusation of that with Long Beach. Also, you clearly don’t spend much time in Long Beach, because there are several very nice neighborhoods here.

]]> By: Jayman http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72206 Jayman Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:12:43 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72206 I am glad to know now that some of the people who apparently work for Jet Blue hate Long Beach. Do you know that a very large portion of the people who work at Jet Blue at Long Beach airport are Long Beach residents? Long Beach is NOT a "crappy little city"...compared to his examples...Malibu, Huntington Beach, and Rancho Palos Verdes... none of them are true cities at all... but simply suburbs of "real" cities. Long Beach is a real city, with real corporate headquarters, real industry, a powerful port, a true downtown, extraordinary neighborhoods, a real airport (which most people love) and most importantly, almost 400,000 diverse residents who are some of the most city-proud friendly people I know. I love Jet Blue, but its not a philanthropic organization handing money to Long Beach, its a business... and remember, Long Beach residents and businesses support Jet Blue, otherwise they would not be here. I am glad to know now that some of the people who apparently work for Jet Blue hate Long Beach. Do you know that a very large portion of the people who work at Jet Blue at Long Beach airport are Long Beach residents? Long Beach is NOT a “crappy little city”…compared to his examples…Malibu, Huntington Beach, and Rancho Palos Verdes… none of them are true cities at all… but simply suburbs of “real” cities. Long Beach is a real city, with real corporate headquarters, real industry, a powerful port, a true downtown, extraordinary neighborhoods, a real airport (which most people love) and most importantly, almost 400,000 diverse residents who are some of the most city-proud friendly people I know. I love Jet Blue, but its not a philanthropic organization handing money to Long Beach, its a business… and remember, Long Beach residents and businesses support Jet Blue, otherwise they would not be here.

]]> By: Joe http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72202 Joe Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:30:50 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72202 Lets get the hell out of LGB! Stop wasting our time & money there. They love taking our money but don't make good on promises. Lets go to an city where we are wanted, can deliver our great product and this WILL help our bottom line. I can only imagine how much better off we'd be if we didn't pay the 2+ million a year in landing fees to LGB. I wonder what will happen when the city no longer has that money to spend on their local projects? The certainly don't put it back into the airport? They never think of that. Bet they will still want us to pay even if we stop flying there. Funny, I flew into LGB 15 years ago, It was a very busy airport then with everything from C-17's to flight training 152's. True, there was nothing in the way of commercial traffic, but those old Gulfstreams certainly are loud! And a small piston twin roaring overhead is LOUDER than our planes by far, and they operated from 6 am to almost midnight. The locals can say what they want, the truth is JetBlue is not the noise maker there. They have scammed us long enough,a nd are nothing but sticking their noses in the air to us. Its not paradise, its not Huntington Beach. Its not Malibu. Its not Rancho Palos Verdes! Its friggin LONG BEACH! Hell, its gangbanger central there. When was the last time you ducked for cover when you heard jet noise? Locked your car door cause "oh crap its a JetBlue plane next to me." Yeah, ok. Take a poll... see how many locals wear either blue or red? 'nuff said? The customers will go to where ever the deal is. Period. Lets just do the obviously smart thing. End the nightmare and free-for-all grabbing of our money. End the lies. End the nightmare. Just end it. Lets go to LA, they have the infrastructure, have the customs, have the facilities and best of all - they want us. The customers will follow. Its seems bluntly obvious to me? Why continue the debate over LGB? We can have the same wonderful staff in LA, better experience for our customers, expand service and even international ops with customs and improve the bottom line. Then LGB can return to what it was, a little airport in a crappy little city. Lets get the hell out of LGB! Stop wasting our time & money there. They love taking our money but don’t make good on promises. Lets go to an city where we are wanted, can deliver our great product and this WILL help our bottom line. I can only imagine how much better off we’d be if we didn’t pay the 2+ million a year in landing fees to LGB. I wonder what will happen when the city no longer has that money to spend on their local projects? The certainly don’t put it back into the airport? They never think of that. Bet they will still want us to pay even if we stop flying there. Funny, I flew into LGB 15 years ago, It was a very busy airport then with everything from C-17′s to flight training 152′s. True, there was nothing in the way of commercial traffic, but those old Gulfstreams certainly are loud! And a small piston twin roaring overhead is LOUDER than our planes by far, and they operated from 6 am to almost midnight. The locals can say what they want, the truth is JetBlue is not the noise maker there. They have scammed us long enough,a nd are nothing but sticking their noses in the air to us. Its not paradise, its not Huntington Beach. Its not Malibu. Its not Rancho Palos Verdes! Its friggin LONG BEACH! Hell, its gangbanger central there. When was the last time you ducked for cover when you heard jet noise? Locked your car door cause “oh crap its a JetBlue plane next to me.” Yeah, ok. Take a poll… see how many locals wear either blue or red? ’nuff said? The customers will go to where ever the deal is. Period. Lets just do the obviously smart thing. End the nightmare and free-for-all grabbing of our money. End the lies. End the nightmare. Just end it. Lets go to LA, they have the infrastructure, have the customs, have the facilities and best of all – they want us. The customers will follow. Its seems bluntly obvious to me? Why continue the debate over LGB? We can have the same wonderful staff in LA, better experience for our customers, expand service and even international ops with customs and improve the bottom line. Then LGB can return to what it was, a little airport in a crappy little city.

]]> By: Mary http://crankyflier.com/2009/03/30/across-the-aisle-from-jetblue-ceo-dave-barger-part-1-keeping-the-product-fresh-and-long-beach-troubles/comment-page-1/#comment-72201 Mary Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:36:59 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=2396#comment-72201 NOOOOO!! Don't leave Long Beach!! I live in Orange County, about 5 minutes from John Wayne Airport, but I have been going up to Long Beach, a mere 20 minutes, for over 6 years now. I am one of the true blue loyal JetBlue fliers; there is no better flying experience out there, but I will NOT GO TO LAX for Jetblue. LAX is an overwhelming, expensive, rude nightmare. Long Beach is a lovely airport; the terminal is charming, easy to get around, the staff are friendly, and parking has never been a problem. NOOOOO!! Don’t leave Long Beach!! I live in Orange County, about 5 minutes from John Wayne Airport, but I have been going up to Long Beach, a mere 20 minutes, for over 6 years now. I am one of the true blue loyal JetBlue fliers; there is no better flying experience out there, but I will NOT GO TO LAX for Jetblue. LAX is an overwhelming, expensive, rude nightmare.

Long Beach is a lovely airport; the terminal is charming, easy to get around, the staff are friendly, and parking has never been a problem.

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