Comments on: No Comments on the Crash of Continental 3407

By: The Crash in Buffalo | Flight Wisdom

The Crash in Buffalo | Flight Wisdom — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:17:06 +0000

[...] this to see what developments came up, so we could do a proper review of the situation. We tend to agree with the Cranky Flier that there is a standard story everyone writes about this sort of issue. Like [...]

By: John

John — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:41:19 +0000

I have no comment on Cranky’s no comment. Wait, dose that mean that by saying I am not commenting on Cranky’s no comment, I just commented on Cranky’s no comment?

By: Dan Webb

Dan Webb — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:19:40 +0000

Ken, I honestly think that opinion is premature. Based on your logic, Air Canada should ground a good chunk of its Jazz fleet, as they operate numerous aircraft from the Dash-8 family.

Let the NTSB do its work. We know icing played a factor, but that’s it.

By: Ken

Ken — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:15:48 +0000

I have a comment regarding Continental’s decision to allow this kind of airplane to fly into climates like Buffalo with know weather issues. They allowed less expensive to fly prop plans with “de-icing” capacity to replace the regional jets with “hot wings” that prevented icing in the first place on most routes to Upstate NY.

In my opinion, the “wing over” design of these planes combined with a less effective ice prevention system are going to be shown to major factors in the preventable tragedy. I was standing outside on the 12th…I know what was coming from the sky and a pilot needed every resource available to be safe.

Cost savings was placed in front of safety.

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:44:31 +0000

A wide river won’t help you when you’re nose down and spinning out of control. The crew would’ve likely needed an extra 10,000ft or more to get it under control. Naturally EVERYONE has theories about accident causes whether they want to vocalize it or not. I believe fear drives a unique reaction from the flying public whenever A/C accidents happen. It’s that underlying discomfort of knowing you have NO control of your destiny when you sit in the cabin, unlike when you sit in a car or even in some ways a train. Unfortunately these recent string of accidents in a short period of time will likely affect summer bookings for all of the airlines.

By: Claire Walter

Claire Walter — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:42:35 +0000

Continental didn’t have two accidents. Continental had one and Colgan had one, but an aircraft flying in Continental livery is a difficult PR situation. There were reports today of ice on the wildshield and leading edge of the wings upon approach to Buffalo — and that the pilot had deployed ice-fighting systems tho’ it wasn’t yet known whether everything was functioning. Too bad there wasn’t a wide river to land on.

By: David SF east bay

David SF east bay — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:38:53 +0000

“”"No Comments on the Crash of Continental 3407″”"

Well by having this blog today, you seemed to have made a comment.

I did find it interesting that after last nights crash all of a sudden an increase of people on that CO Denver accident filed a law suit today. Guess the lawyer told them that now with two accidents CO will be more in a rush to settle out of court so as not to have two accidents in court.

By: JC

JC — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:36:59 +0000

I’m a flight attendant with one of the US majors, and I agree with Paula.

How the rest of you can be so jaded…I can’t comprehend. There is not ANYTHING wrong with offering thoughts, prayers, silence, or any other form of human compassion.

Criticizing the actions, as well as the kind words… of strangers…people who just wanted to simply take a moment to say they cared.

Simply unreal.

By: CF

CF — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:46:26 +0000

Paula – I understand what you’re saying, but it always seems so hollow to me. The one that makes me the most insane is “deeply saddened” since that seems to be the default term used by politicians and execs. It rarely seems sincere. Of course I feel bad for everyone who knew someone on that plane, and after watching CNN until it was time to go to bed, I couldn’t fall asleep because my heart was beating fast and I had sweaty palms just from thinking about it. But this blog is here to provide information or perspective on the industry, and if I had some, I’d write it. I don’t mean to be “cranky” in this case. I simply just don’t have anything that I can add.

By: Paula Berg

Paula Berg — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:28:43 +0000

So you do have a cranky side, after all. While those words may seem trite to some, based on my own experience, I think they can still be comforting to those who are suffering, whatever the reason. Imagine if you personally experienced something horrible and no one said anything or even acknowledged you simply because they didn’t have anything “substantive” to say. I think that would be a lot worse than someone letting you know that you were in their thoughts and prayers.