Comments on: United and Aer Lingus Earn a Cranky Jackass For Plan Which Could See Their Crews Disappear http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/ Thu, 24 May 2012 15:20:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: CF http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-385531 CF Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:26:03 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-385531 You'll get an Aer Lingus onboard product that's simply being marketed by United. Here's a trip report for you: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/174720/ You’ll get an Aer Lingus onboard product that’s simply being marketed by United. Here’s a trip report for you:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/174720/

]]> By: david rosen http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-385155 david rosen Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:59:09 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-385155 Brett: Flying this route in C class on Sunday. Very curious about what to expect. David Brett:

Flying this route in C class on Sunday. Very curious about what to expect.

David

]]> By: Kris Ziel http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-351294 Kris Ziel Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:03:57 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-351294 We all see how terrible United is doing since they started this route. We all see how terrible United is doing since they started this route.

]]> By: CF http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-96899 CF Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:00:31 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-96899 I use my blog as my platform and that does reach a wide audience, but I'm not interested in taking sides any further than that. I certainly don't want to be involved politically with any of this so I will gladly let my blog speak for itself and leave it at that. I use my blog as my platform and that does reach a wide audience, but I’m not interested in taking sides any further than that. I certainly don’t want to be involved politically with any of this so I will gladly let my blog speak for itself and leave it at that.

]]> By: UA-Insider http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-96882 UA-Insider Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:37:50 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-96882 United Flight Attendant union (AFA) is using it's lobbying resources to go door-to-door on capital hill to all the Senators/Congressmen, and show them what this deal really means. The UAL/Aer Lingus spin is that's it's creating new jobs in a poor economy... when in reality it's outsourcing jobs to the lowest bidder via legal loopholes. Finally, some of the Senators/Congressmen are coming around, and seeing the truth behind this crooked deal. There is a bill in the works, but it still needs more support before going to the floor for a vote. CRANKY FLIER: Have you though about writing a press release? I bet there are some reporters who would love to get in on a story like this. United Flight Attendant union (AFA) is using it’s lobbying resources to go door-to-door on capital hill to all the Senators/Congressmen, and show them what this deal really means. The UAL/Aer Lingus spin is that’s it’s creating new jobs in a poor economy… when in reality it’s outsourcing jobs to the lowest bidder via legal loopholes. Finally, some of the Senators/Congressmen are coming around, and seeing the truth behind this crooked deal. There is a bill in the works, but it still needs more support before going to the floor for a vote. CRANKY FLIER: Have you though about writing a press release? I bet there are some reporters who would love to get in on a story like this.

]]> By: lyn http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-96397 lyn Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:26:12 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-96397 Imagine...Tilton and his cronies can head United into the future. It becomes a virtual airline. Suits can book on United, earn points, save face, pay less than what it's worth, not have to deal with unhappy, overworked employees, and probably even insist that flight attendants pass weight-check...after all, U.S. laws won't apply. Maintenance, food, cleaning...all farmed out to the lowest bidder. No strikes to worry about. And, with what is left over Tilton can give himself more bonuses and hire a private jet to fly himself and his family safely to vacation spots all over the world. Imagine…Tilton and his cronies can head United into the future. It becomes a virtual airline. Suits can book on United, earn points, save face, pay less than what it’s worth, not have to deal with unhappy, overworked employees, and probably even insist that flight attendants pass weight-check…after all, U.S. laws won’t apply.
Maintenance, food, cleaning…all farmed out to the lowest bidder. No strikes to worry about. And, with what is left over Tilton can give himself more bonuses and hire a private jet to fly himself and his family safely to vacation spots all over the world.

]]> By: A concerned person http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-96309 A concerned person Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:30:13 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-96309 P.S.: They are hiring people from all over the country to fill IAD spots, not just the DC area... P.S.: They are hiring people from all over the country to fill IAD spots, not just the DC area…

]]> By: A concerned person http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-96308 A concerned person Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:28:23 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-96308 I actually was offered an interview with Aer Lingus, not knowing any of the inside red tape like this before hand. I am already with another airline (and trust me the pay is low there too), but I wasn't aware of the union concerns with Aer Lingus, hmm... I actually was offered an interview with Aer Lingus, not knowing any of the inside red tape like this before hand. I am already with another airline (and trust me the pay is low there too), but I wasn’t aware of the union concerns with Aer Lingus, hmm…

]]> By: UA-Insider http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-95357 UA-Insider Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:06:27 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-95357 <b>@ <a href="#comment-69933" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Nicholas Barnard</a></b>: The flight attendants have been hired off the street in DC, non-union, low wages. They will be wearing Aer Lingus uniforms, but are being trained in the UAL training center in Chicago. UA financed the deal, Aer Lingus provided the aircraft. UAL has managed to pull a fast one here by trying to bypass union contract language prohibiting not only foreign ownership interests in US airlines, but hiring non-union flight attendants to work what is being advertised as a "UAL" flight. The "real" Aer Lingus (unionized) flight attendants + pilots filed a lawsuit. Pilots won, flight attendants lost... so the illegal/unethical hiring began. UAL flight attendant union (AFA) has hired a lawfirm to investigate and hopefully put an end to this blatant outsourcing of US jobs. (Yes, they are US citizens, hired in DC, but at minimum wages with minimum qualifications, and because of a big nasty legal loophole... for now). @ Nicholas Barnard:

The flight attendants have been hired off the street in DC, non-union, low wages. They will be wearing Aer Lingus uniforms, but are being trained in the UAL training center in Chicago. UA financed the deal, Aer Lingus provided the aircraft. UAL has managed to pull a fast one here by trying to bypass union contract language prohibiting not only foreign ownership interests in US airlines, but hiring non-union flight attendants to work what is being advertised as a “UAL” flight. The “real” Aer Lingus (unionized) flight attendants + pilots filed a lawsuit. Pilots won, flight attendants lost… so the illegal/unethical hiring began. UAL flight attendant union (AFA) has hired a lawfirm to investigate and hopefully put an end to this blatant outsourcing of US jobs. (Yes, they are US citizens, hired in DC, but at minimum wages with minimum qualifications, and because of a big nasty legal loophole… for now).

]]> By: Fontakis http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/23/united-and-aer-lingus-earn-a-cranky-jackass-for-plan-which-could-see-their-crews-disappear/comment-page-1/#comment-93761 Fontakis Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:05:08 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/?p=1997#comment-93761 Debi please get your facts straight, the AFA is not paying for Delta organizing, the CWA is, with its unlimited funds. Imagine DEL/NWA the largest carrier not organized, that would set the standard, and that would only make you as good as your last trip..no thanx Debi
please get your facts straight, the AFA is not paying for Delta organizing, the CWA is, with its unlimited funds. Imagine DEL/NWA the largest carrier not organized, that would set the standard, and that would only make you as good as your last trip..no thanx

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