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		<title>By: anukexpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>anukexpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t try and slip in a &quot;cashing this check will signify you agreement that this payment is in full and final settlement of any and all claims that may arise out of this incident&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t try and slip in a &#8220;cashing this check will signify you agreement that this payment is in full and final settlement of any and all claims that may arise out of this incident&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian January 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm, nearly killed by that &quot;company’s service&quot;....... I think it was the evil birds that almost killed those people on that plane, you know how mad all the birds can get about us people flying in the sky!!
Maybe we should sue the National Audubon Society for supporting the birds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian January 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm, nearly killed by that &#8220;company’s service&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;. I think it was the evil birds that almost killed those people on that plane, you know how mad all the birds can get about us people flying in the sky!!<br />
Maybe we should sue the National Audubon Society for supporting the birds.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Require TCAS in all foul flying within 5 nm of a terminal control area?? lol

Bravo to Dougie and friends for being ahead of the curve on this and building on the competence of the crew.   This is a  rare case where an accident may help an airline&#039;s public image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Require TCAS in all foul flying within 5 nm of a terminal control area?? lol</p>
<p>Bravo to Dougie and friends for being ahead of the curve on this and building on the competence of the crew.   This is a  rare case where an accident may help an airline&#8217;s public image.</p>
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		<title>By: HJR</title>
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		<dc:creator>HJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Canadian Geese should be sued... or at least the Government of Canada, perhaps, for allowing the Geese to evolve in Canada without proper aircraft evasion skills.  

Oh, and US Airways should be applauded.  Take some responsibility, people, if you choose to do something like fly on an airplane, that&#039;s your choice and nobody owes you compensation for things like counseling if an accident happens during your free-will choice to defy gravity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Canadian Geese should be sued&#8230; or at least the Government of Canada, perhaps, for allowing the Geese to evolve in Canada without proper aircraft evasion skills.  </p>
<p>Oh, and US Airways should be applauded.  Take some responsibility, people, if you choose to do something like fly on an airplane, that&#8217;s your choice and nobody owes you compensation for things like counseling if an accident happens during your free-will choice to defy gravity.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John M - I think the best thing we can learn is how to effectively ditch an airplane.  Yes, there was a nice big piece of calm water for them to put down, but the pilots did something right here and it should be studied.  It could help in future ditchings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John M &#8211; I think the best thing we can learn is how to effectively ditch an airplane.  Yes, there was a nice big piece of calm water for them to put down, but the pilots did something right here and it should be studied.  It could help in future ditchings.</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, not to be to snarky about this, but what are we going to learn?  Always fly over rivers? Don&#039;t hit birds? Only depart from cities with ferry service?

I like the NTSB fine, no knock on them, and I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll come up with a couple of little ideas like changes in the breifing or making life seat cusions easier to get out.

But I think we need to get away from the idea that the NTSB can make changes that will &quot;insure this never happens again&quot; as some people say.

We had the crash of Comair 5191 out my way, and they came up with a few things about runway lighting and controller workload, but their main conclusion was that the pilots were jawboning instead of looking for the right runway.

So what&#039;s the recommendation?  Pay attention while taxiing.  Train your pilots to pay attention while taxiing.  But we already do that.  So remind them again.  Great.  So what did we learn from that accident?  No matter how well trained, pilots will sometimes randomly screw up. There&#039;s nothing you can do to prevent it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, not to be to snarky about this, but what are we going to learn?  Always fly over rivers? Don&#8217;t hit birds? Only depart from cities with ferry service?</p>
<p>I like the NTSB fine, no knock on them, and I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll come up with a couple of little ideas like changes in the breifing or making life seat cusions easier to get out.</p>
<p>But I think we need to get away from the idea that the NTSB can make changes that will &#8220;insure this never happens again&#8221; as some people say.</p>
<p>We had the crash of Comair 5191 out my way, and they came up with a few things about runway lighting and controller workload, but their main conclusion was that the pilots were jawboning instead of looking for the right runway.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the recommendation?  Pay attention while taxiing.  Train your pilots to pay attention while taxiing.  But we already do that.  So remind them again.  Great.  So what did we learn from that accident?  No matter how well trained, pilots will sometimes randomly screw up. There&#8217;s nothing you can do to prevent it.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - I didn&#039;t see anything in the current &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usairways.com/awa/content/aboutus/customersfirst/contractofcarriage.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;contract of carriage&lt;/a&gt;, but if it was in there, it would certainly apply.  For baggage, the standard compensation is $3,300 per person (regardless of how many bags were checked), so they did bump it up another $1,700 but I&#039;m not sure why.

As for additional compensation, I imagine that there will be.  The reason I like what they&#039;ve already done is they did it very quickly.  Paying out for the delayed return of baggage and the cost of the ticket is a concrete number that gives immediate relief to those who have to replace things stuck in their bags.  Other things like medical bills and the like will take longer to sort out.  So my guess is that there will be negotiations down the line for things that apply on an individual basis.  

Greg Wesson - Well, my understanding is that the letter was sent with two checks and nothing else.  If that&#039;s the case, then it wouldn&#039;t appear that they would have to waive any right to future claims by cashing the checks.  I don&#039;t think US Airways would be that stupid.  If they pulled that stunt, there would have been a lot of angry people and we&#039;d probably see it in the media quickly.

I&#039;m not trying to praise them too much.  In fact my &lt;a href=&quot;http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/16/yet-another-post-on-us-airways-crash-in-the-hudson/ rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;earlier post&lt;/a&gt; asked for a little restraint.  I&#039;m just saying that what they&#039;ve done so far has been done well in the public&#039;s eye.  That doesn&#039;t mean that I won&#039;t turn on them if they try something shady tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; I didn&#8217;t see anything in the current <a href="http://www.usairways.com/awa/content/aboutus/customersfirst/contractofcarriage.aspx" rel="nofollow">contract of carriage</a>, but if it was in there, it would certainly apply.  For baggage, the standard compensation is $3,300 per person (regardless of how many bags were checked), so they did bump it up another $1,700 but I&#8217;m not sure why.</p>
<p>As for additional compensation, I imagine that there will be.  The reason I like what they&#8217;ve already done is they did it very quickly.  Paying out for the delayed return of baggage and the cost of the ticket is a concrete number that gives immediate relief to those who have to replace things stuck in their bags.  Other things like medical bills and the like will take longer to sort out.  So my guess is that there will be negotiations down the line for things that apply on an individual basis.  </p>
<p>Greg Wesson &#8211; Well, my understanding is that the letter was sent with two checks and nothing else.  If that&#8217;s the case, then it wouldn&#8217;t appear that they would have to waive any right to future claims by cashing the checks.  I don&#8217;t think US Airways would be that stupid.  If they pulled that stunt, there would have been a lot of angry people and we&#8217;d probably see it in the media quickly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to praise them too much.  In fact my <a href="http://crankyflier.com/2009/01/16/yet-another-post-on-us-airways-crash-in-the-hudson/ rel="nofollow">earlier post</a> asked for a little restraint.  I&#8217;m just saying that what they&#8217;ve done so far has been done well in the public&#8217;s eye.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that I won&#8217;t turn on them if they try something shady tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Barnard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Barnard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that US Airways is at least being proactive.  

I think if you said you were traumatized, they&#039;d more than happily pay for counseling etc.  The approach here is: This is the least we can do, let us know specifically what else you need.

I&#039;m sure if you went to them and said you had more than $5k of items onboard they&#039;d probably accommodate a reasonable request.

But, I&#039;d be interested to see how this comes out and if they get sued.   I think many instances of companies getting sued is because people feel wronged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that US Airways is at least being proactive.  </p>
<p>I think if you said you were traumatized, they&#8217;d more than happily pay for counseling etc.  The approach here is: This is the least we can do, let us know specifically what else you need.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure if you went to them and said you had more than $5k of items onboard they&#8217;d probably accommodate a reasonable request.</p>
<p>But, I&#8217;d be interested to see how this comes out and if they get sued.   I think many instances of companies getting sued is because people feel wronged.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Wesson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Wesson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if cashing the cheque would in any way invalidate any future claims you could make against the airline?

While it was an impressive landing, and certainly US Air does seem to be acting very well to the passengers at this point, I still think it is too early to praise them too much.  My understanding is that airline accidents can rarely be attributed to a single cause, and that as the NTSB investigates, we may find that faults or mistakes with the airplane, airline or crew contributed to the accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if cashing the cheque would in any way invalidate any future claims you could make against the airline?</p>
<p>While it was an impressive landing, and certainly US Air does seem to be acting very well to the passengers at this point, I still think it is too early to praise them too much.  My understanding is that airline accidents can rarely be attributed to a single cause, and that as the NTSB investigates, we may find that faults or mistakes with the airplane, airline or crew contributed to the accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a frequent flyer, but I remember reading in the T&amp;C of my ticket a while back that accident insurance was included in the cost of the ticket but void in a terrorist incident.  Wouldn&#039;t that cover the costs of reimbursing the pax?

While I&#039;m all for tort reform and am not in support of ambulance chasers, shouldn&#039;t there be additional compensation without having to sue for it?  I think the refund and free transportation to final destination is a given, the $5,000 reasonable for lost effects, but what about compensation for the fact that they were in a traumatizing event...  some people may be too afraid to fly again, may have nightmares, etc.  If there were more serious injuries like decapitations or death, what compensation would they automatically give out?  

I guess to counter my own argument, my AMEX Corporate card insurance details compensation at $200,000 max for death, $10,000 for loss of one hand at the wrist, $5,000 for two digits, etc or something like that, but nothing for psychological damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a frequent flyer, but I remember reading in the T&amp;C of my ticket a while back that accident insurance was included in the cost of the ticket but void in a terrorist incident.  Wouldn&#8217;t that cover the costs of reimbursing the pax?</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m all for tort reform and am not in support of ambulance chasers, shouldn&#8217;t there be additional compensation without having to sue for it?  I think the refund and free transportation to final destination is a given, the $5,000 reasonable for lost effects, but what about compensation for the fact that they were in a traumatizing event&#8230;  some people may be too afraid to fly again, may have nightmares, etc.  If there were more serious injuries like decapitations or death, what compensation would they automatically give out?  </p>
<p>I guess to counter my own argument, my AMEX Corporate card insurance details compensation at $200,000 max for death, $10,000 for loss of one hand at the wrist, $5,000 for two digits, etc or something like that, but nothing for psychological damage.</p>
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