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	<title>Comments on: LAX Opens Public reLAX Lounge, Others Should Follow</title>
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		<title>By: Yo</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/12/24/lax-opens-public-relax-lounge-others-should-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-68880</link>
		<dc:creator>Yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice idea, still way overpriced.

No free wifi at LAX is a crime.  Lots of other airports are free (PHX).

But, if you want to get free wifi at any airport, just park your carcass outside the airline lounges, at least one of them will leak through and not have a password.

BTW, the one airline that is worth paying the extra few bucks on is Bangkok Air.  In all their terminals, its essentially a lounge.  Free internet, free non alcohol drinks and light snacks and newspapers.  That is for all their pax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea, still way overpriced.</p>
<p>No free wifi at LAX is a crime.  Lots of other airports are free (PHX).</p>
<p>But, if you want to get free wifi at any airport, just park your carcass outside the airline lounges, at least one of them will leak through and not have a password.</p>
<p>BTW, the one airline that is worth paying the extra few bucks on is Bangkok Air.  In all their terminals, its essentially a lounge.  Free internet, free non alcohol drinks and light snacks and newspapers.  That is for all their pax.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea:  why don&#039;t airports provide more pleasant waiting environments?  I&#039;ll admit the club idea is a good one and worth the price, but when you look at how UNFRIENDLY airport furniture is, you realize how unpleasant an extended wait (for example after a red eye) can be.  The arm rests prevent you from lying down; there are few, if any, plugs in most airports, all food services are closed. And those incessant overhead announcements are ridiculous.  You are already behind security, why announce the 3 oz rule  When you get to an airport serving multiple languages it gets even more ridiculous.  These announcements were actually playing at 0300 at ORD when no one was in the concourse except me and some workers.  The decibel level was deafening.

I actually invested $39.00 in a Mini-motel.  I used it once after an extended stay at ORD overnight after an early arriving red eye.  At least it is a clean place to rest.  The only problem: when I put in the ear plugs, the announcements were all I could hear.  Kind of like ear plugs and screaming children.

Yes, I&#039;m cranky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea:  why don&#8217;t airports provide more pleasant waiting environments?  I&#8217;ll admit the club idea is a good one and worth the price, but when you look at how UNFRIENDLY airport furniture is, you realize how unpleasant an extended wait (for example after a red eye) can be.  The arm rests prevent you from lying down; there are few, if any, plugs in most airports, all food services are closed. And those incessant overhead announcements are ridiculous.  You are already behind security, why announce the 3 oz rule  When you get to an airport serving multiple languages it gets even more ridiculous.  These announcements were actually playing at 0300 at ORD when no one was in the concourse except me and some workers.  The decibel level was deafening.</p>
<p>I actually invested $39.00 in a Mini-motel.  I used it once after an extended stay at ORD overnight after an early arriving red eye.  At least it is a clean place to rest.  The only problem: when I put in the ear plugs, the announcements were all I could hear.  Kind of like ear plugs and screaming children.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m cranky.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/12/24/lax-opens-public-relax-lounge-others-should-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-68871</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A -- the Amex Platinum card doesn&#039;t get you into every airline&#039;s lounges, as far as I know (which, being based in the San Francisco area, UA my airline of choice, and they aren&#039;t part of the program).

Diners Club also offers lounge access to their members, but when I had that card as a corporate card, there were only a handful of clubs in US cities.  I did use the benefit a few times in AMS and FRA, though.  The clubs weren&#039;t exactly great.

I&#039;ve paid $50 once when I had a 7 or 8 hour lay-over.  For short layovers, I&#039;d probably try and find a decent restaurant, especially since I am usually traveling with my wife (I assume the reLAX loung won&#039;t let you bring guests, just like the airline club day passes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8212; the Amex Platinum card doesn&#8217;t get you into every airline&#8217;s lounges, as far as I know (which, being based in the San Francisco area, UA my airline of choice, and they aren&#8217;t part of the program).</p>
<p>Diners Club also offers lounge access to their members, but when I had that card as a corporate card, there were only a handful of clubs in US cities.  I did use the benefit a few times in AMS and FRA, though.  The clubs weren&#8217;t exactly great.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve paid $50 once when I had a 7 or 8 hour lay-over.  For short layovers, I&#8217;d probably try and find a decent restaurant, especially since I am usually traveling with my wife (I assume the reLAX loung won&#8217;t let you bring guests, just like the airline club day passes).</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely forgot to include the link to all my still photos as well, so I&#039;ve updated the post.  You can go &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/sets/72157611027839592/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  You&#039;ll notice they even have massage chairs and they bring masseuses in during the afternoon peak.

A - You&#039;re right, there aren&#039;t any couches that I could see in there.  And yes, the Amex platinum gets you into lounges, but those aren&#039;t cheap cards to have.  For the infrequent traveler who gets stuck, these lounges are great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely forgot to include the link to all my still photos as well, so I&#8217;ve updated the post.  You can go <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/crankyflier/sets/72157611027839592/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  You&#8217;ll notice they even have massage chairs and they bring masseuses in during the afternoon peak.</p>
<p>A &#8211; You&#8217;re right, there aren&#8217;t any couches that I could see in there.  And yes, the Amex platinum gets you into lounges, but those aren&#8217;t cheap cards to have.  For the infrequent traveler who gets stuck, these lounges are great.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - Amex platinum cards get you &amp; companion free access to the airline lounge of the airline you are flying.  If you are a frequent flier and your employer won&#039;t pop for the membership I&#039;d highly reccomend this option as its served me very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; Amex platinum cards get you &amp; companion free access to the airline lounge of the airline you are flying.  If you are a frequent flier and your employer won&#8217;t pop for the membership I&#8217;d highly reccomend this option as its served me very well.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the $10/hour option for a short layover but if you&#039;re snowed in for a long time the $50 for the airline lounge seems a better deal, and those are in secure areas.  

In the video I didn&#039;t notice any full sized couches.  That&#039;s one thing my wife really likes in some airline lounges - the chance to lie down for a nap between flights.  Something I&#039;d ask about before dropping $10/hr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the $10/hour option for a short layover but if you&#8217;re snowed in for a long time the $50 for the airline lounge seems a better deal, and those are in secure areas.  </p>
<p>In the video I didn&#8217;t notice any full sized couches.  That&#8217;s one thing my wife really likes in some airline lounges &#8211; the chance to lie down for a nap between flights.  Something I&#8217;d ask about before dropping $10/hr.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver - Yep.  They&#039;re collecting either boarding passes or ID when you arrive, but if it&#039;s not crowded they sometimes work on the honor system.  It just depends on the situation, but they do keep track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver &#8211; Yep.  They&#8217;re collecting either boarding passes or ID when you arrive, but if it&#8217;s not crowded they sometimes work on the honor system.  It just depends on the situation, but they do keep track.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do they enforce the amount of time you purchase?  Do they collect your ID at the door and check how long you stayed when you leave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do they enforce the amount of time you purchase?  Do they collect your ID at the door and check how long you stayed when you leave?</p>
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