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		<title>By: Peter L</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/29/southwest-introduces-fly-by-security-lanes/comment-page-1/#comment-94096</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;clarification&#039; that the real estate in front of a checkpoint is run by airlines and arports is misleading.

If an airline would offer an expedited access to one of its services it woudl be a fair transaction to ask money for that, but this case is different.

The Airlines, including Southwest, are selling expedited access to government services, which we taxpayers all paid a security fee for (and possibly even more than that via income tax etc).

No fellow citizen should have a right to expedited access to a government service which I have paid for, defacto pushing me to the back of the line.

Not even with filing taxes a citizen would be encountering that. He would simply file his taxes and be processed in order of arrival of his return, regardless if that return is for 1 million or 1K dollars.

And as far as I know, by paying a 3rd party, one cannot cut in front of someone in court either, nor at the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;clarification&#8217; that the real estate in front of a checkpoint is run by airlines and arports is misleading.</p>
<p>If an airline would offer an expedited access to one of its services it woudl be a fair transaction to ask money for that, but this case is different.</p>
<p>The Airlines, including Southwest, are selling expedited access to government services, which we taxpayers all paid a security fee for (and possibly even more than that via income tax etc).</p>
<p>No fellow citizen should have a right to expedited access to a government service which I have paid for, defacto pushing me to the back of the line.</p>
<p>Not even with filing taxes a citizen would be encountering that. He would simply file his taxes and be processed in order of arrival of his return, regardless if that return is for 1 million or 1K dollars.</p>
<p>And as far as I know, by paying a 3rd party, one cannot cut in front of someone in court either, nor at the police.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/29/southwest-introduces-fly-by-security-lanes/comment-page-1/#comment-94079</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-94040&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter L&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m an Ameriva by choice and, was a big fam of SWA, until I read about their Fly By privileges for business tickets, which they give using my taxpayer money. That is un-American indeed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I can clarify the relationship for you, and it&#039;s not as you think.  In the TSA&#039;s mind, they control the checkpoint and all the security screening, but how people get to that checkpoint is up to the airlines and airports to decide.  That&#039;s why you see elite lines in some places and not others - it&#039;s an airport/airline decision.  So the government really isn&#039;t involved in this.  They just deal with people when they reach the front of the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-94040" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Peter L</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m an Ameriva by choice and, was a big fam of SWA, until I read about their Fly By privileges for business tickets, which they give using my taxpayer money. That is un-American indeed.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can clarify the relationship for you, and it&#8217;s not as you think.  In the TSA&#8217;s mind, they control the checkpoint and all the security screening, but how people get to that checkpoint is up to the airlines and airports to decide.  That&#8217;s why you see elite lines in some places and not others &#8211; it&#8217;s an airport/airline decision.  So the government really isn&#8217;t involved in this.  They just deal with people when they reach the front of the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter L</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/29/southwest-introduces-fly-by-security-lanes/comment-page-1/#comment-94040</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an Ameriva by choice and, was a big fam of SWA, until I read about their Fly By privileges for business tickets, which they give using my taxpayer money. That is un-American indeed.

I just wrote this to SWA:
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I&#039;m a regular customer of SWA.

A question on this privilege via Business Select to get in front of the line at the TSA (so government run, taxpayer paid) security check-in:

Who pays the TSA for this extra privilege? Does SWA pay the TSA insteda of the taxpayer, or does this come from the taxpayers money only?

I&#039;m not happy of this either way, since it is inappropriate for government to give privileges to one citizen over another. Our Constitution and laws are based on &#039;equal treatment under equal circumstances&#039;. Otherwise this would be a form of bribing government to get privileged treatment with it.

Please clarify the government-SWA relationship in this. It seems in your interest to do so, considering the above and how this would come over with other travelers.

In Europe this would often not be an issue, since either the government offers a priority service direct to all, without an airline in between, or the security is run by private companies and again one can pay them for the extra privelege or decide not to. Or the government in a country there simply violates the rights of individuals by giving priority to those paying bribes, since their laws are not respectful of individual rights like ours. So there it differs either way from here in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an Ameriva by choice and, was a big fam of SWA, until I read about their Fly By privileges for business tickets, which they give using my taxpayer money. That is un-American indeed.</p>
<p>I just wrote this to SWA:<br />
&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a regular customer of SWA.</p>
<p>A question on this privilege via Business Select to get in front of the line at the TSA (so government run, taxpayer paid) security check-in:</p>
<p>Who pays the TSA for this extra privilege? Does SWA pay the TSA insteda of the taxpayer, or does this come from the taxpayers money only?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not happy of this either way, since it is inappropriate for government to give privileges to one citizen over another. Our Constitution and laws are based on &#8216;equal treatment under equal circumstances&#8217;. Otherwise this would be a form of bribing government to get privileged treatment with it.</p>
<p>Please clarify the government-SWA relationship in this. It seems in your interest to do so, considering the above and how this would come over with other travelers.</p>
<p>In Europe this would often not be an issue, since either the government offers a priority service direct to all, without an airline in between, or the security is run by private companies and again one can pay them for the extra privelege or decide not to. Or the government in a country there simply violates the rights of individuals by giving priority to those paying bribes, since their laws are not respectful of individual rights like ours. So there it differs either way from here in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter D</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/29/southwest-introduces-fly-by-security-lanes/comment-page-1/#comment-70479</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TSA employees are paid by the taxpayers.  The airports are built by public funds.  Elite lines for security checks should be banned as un-American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TSA employees are paid by the taxpayers.  The airports are built by public funds.  Elite lines for security checks should be banned as un-American.</p>
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		<title>By: garyfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>garyfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a super frequent southwest flier, I am likin this, although at the airports I usually fly in and out of (HOU,MDW,DTW) the security lines generally aren&#039;t that bad... except for LAX.

Next stop, I hope:  SWA Airline Clubs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a super frequent southwest flier, I am likin this, although at the airports I usually fly in and out of (HOU,MDW,DTW) the security lines generally aren&#8217;t that bad&#8230; except for LAX.</p>
<p>Next stop, I hope:  SWA Airline Clubs</p>
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		<title>By: Tarpification &#187; Priority AAccess&#8230;what&#8217;s it worth? So far, absolutely nothing (say it again!)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarpification &#187; Priority AAccess&#8230;what&#8217;s it worth? So far, absolutely nothing (say it again!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out (and according to some, it&#8217;s bad! BAD!, then again, these are the same people who are raving about LV&#8217;s new elite give-aways) I&#8217;m not so sure. As all have pointed out, all you get now that you didn&#8217;t have before [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out (and according to some, it&#8217;s bad! BAD!, then again, these are the same people who are raving about LV&#8217;s new elite give-aways) I&#8217;m not so sure. As all have pointed out, all you get now that you didn&#8217;t have before [...]</p>
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		<title>By: oliver</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/29/southwest-introduces-fly-by-security-lanes/comment-page-1/#comment-65303</link>
		<dc:creator>oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great new perk for business select!  there weren&#039;t THAT many perks for buying a business select fare.  now this one is really worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great new perk for business select!  there weren&#8217;t THAT many perks for buying a business select fare.  now this one is really worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: 2008 September 30 &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/29/southwest-introduces-fly-by-security-lanes/comment-page-1/#comment-65235</link>
		<dc:creator>2008 September 30 &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been doing this for years. Years! More shocking, though also, not entirely: Southwest is rolling out elite lines, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have been doing this for years. Years! More shocking, though also, not entirely: Southwest is rolling out elite lines, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - I don&#039;t think the decision is to buy up from a leisure fare to business select.  It&#039;s more about creating value so that people who would buy the business fares would be willing to pay $10, $20, $30, etc more for that business select fare.  And that&#039;s where they&#039;re building value with this.

RedStripe - Maybe we&#039;ll see that one of these days, but I think that&#039;s probably a last resort.  Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean it won&#039;t happen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; I don&#8217;t think the decision is to buy up from a leisure fare to business select.  It&#8217;s more about creating value so that people who would buy the business fares would be willing to pay $10, $20, $30, etc more for that business select fare.  And that&#8217;s where they&#8217;re building value with this.</p>
<p>RedStripe &#8211; Maybe we&#8217;ll see that one of these days, but I think that&#8217;s probably a last resort.  Of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean it won&#8217;t happen!</p>
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		<title>By: RedStripe</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedStripe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a great idea for SWA, especially since most of the other airlines offer something similar.  Ever since I lost status (and upgrades), I&#039;ve preferred the somewhat egalitarian SWA system!  I&#039;m all for them offering some business travel perks if it means that they can preserve the low cost model that leisure travelers have come to expect - no change fee, quick aircraft loading and loading, pretty fast check-in, etc.  I hope that SWA doesn&#039;t ostracize the leisure travelers.  When the economy picks up and the legacy airlines do better (optimism) biz travelers will probably run back to their First Class upgrades on the legacies.  In fact, I bet that SWA will roll out some form of Economy plus or more legroom for a few rows of seats up front.  You saw it here first...unless someone already beat me to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a great idea for SWA, especially since most of the other airlines offer something similar.  Ever since I lost status (and upgrades), I&#8217;ve preferred the somewhat egalitarian SWA system!  I&#8217;m all for them offering some business travel perks if it means that they can preserve the low cost model that leisure travelers have come to expect &#8211; no change fee, quick aircraft loading and loading, pretty fast check-in, etc.  I hope that SWA doesn&#8217;t ostracize the leisure travelers.  When the economy picks up and the legacy airlines do better (optimism) biz travelers will probably run back to their First Class upgrades on the legacies.  In fact, I bet that SWA will roll out some form of Economy plus or more legroom for a few rows of seats up front.  You saw it here first&#8230;unless someone already beat me to it!</p>
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