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		<title>By: Spirit to Put Ads on Everything &#124; Flight Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/18/spirit-brings-ads-to-overhead-bins-bulkheads-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-64708</link>
		<dc:creator>Spirit to Put Ads on Everything &#124; Flight Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cranky Flier brought to our attention a new push by Spirit Airlines to sell more ad space on their aircraft. They will now sell ads on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/09/18/spirit-brings-ads-to-overhead-bins-bulkheads-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-64671</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan - Why can&#039;t I satirize and embrace it?  I think I made it quite clear that this is a good idea for Spirit in my post, but there&#039;s nothing wrong with having fun with it.

Regarding logojets, there have been plenty of examples of them over the years.  Probably the most famous was the &lt;a href=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Western Pacific Simpsons Logojet&lt;/a&gt;.  It was most recently done by Skybus with Nationwide Insurance, and on the other side of the Pond, it&#039;s a far more common occurrence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan &#8211; Why can&#8217;t I satirize and embrace it?  I think I made it quite clear that this is a good idea for Spirit in my post, but there&#8217;s nothing wrong with having fun with it.</p>
<p>Regarding logojets, there have been plenty of examples of them over the years.  Probably the most famous was the <a href=" rel="nofollow">Western Pacific Simpsons Logojet</a>.  It was most recently done by Skybus with Nationwide Insurance, and on the other side of the Pond, it&#8217;s a far more common occurrence.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertising inside an airplane is a clever use of what little blank space remains on transportation vessels. Organizations can put their image on every corner of an airplane while consumers can continue to enjoy lower fares. And Spirit is the logical candidate to begin this trend as its shorter flights will not leave passengers weary of the same advertisements.

You seem to satirize this proposal, when in fact I think you should embrace it. These advertisements will provide reinforced messages that all passengers will see, as opposed to a “five-second gaze” on a highway billboard.

While Spirit has announced this initiative, it is not the first airline to have advertising on its airplanes. Dunkin’ Donuts and DirecTV’s deals to provide coffee and television on jetBlue flights give them advertising space on cups and seat backs. Snacks on a jetBlue flight also come in their original packaging as opposed to packaging with the airline’s brand on it.

We must also consider whether this opens the door to advertising on the exterior of an airplane. Last year, some of the cars on Amtrak’s Acela Express ran the northeast corridor with an external wrap advertising the History Channel’s “1968 with Tom Brokaw.” An airplane’s exterior must have that airline’s logo on it (something Amtrak can avoid with its monopoly on rail transportation), but will we see that logo share space with another organization’s one of these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising inside an airplane is a clever use of what little blank space remains on transportation vessels. Organizations can put their image on every corner of an airplane while consumers can continue to enjoy lower fares. And Spirit is the logical candidate to begin this trend as its shorter flights will not leave passengers weary of the same advertisements.</p>
<p>You seem to satirize this proposal, when in fact I think you should embrace it. These advertisements will provide reinforced messages that all passengers will see, as opposed to a “five-second gaze” on a highway billboard.</p>
<p>While Spirit has announced this initiative, it is not the first airline to have advertising on its airplanes. Dunkin’ Donuts and DirecTV’s deals to provide coffee and television on jetBlue flights give them advertising space on cups and seat backs. Snacks on a jetBlue flight also come in their original packaging as opposed to packaging with the airline’s brand on it.</p>
<p>We must also consider whether this opens the door to advertising on the exterior of an airplane. Last year, some of the cars on Amtrak’s Acela Express ran the northeast corridor with an external wrap advertising the History Channel’s “1968 with Tom Brokaw.” An airplane’s exterior must have that airline’s logo on it (something Amtrak can avoid with its monopoly on rail transportation), but will we see that logo share space with another organization’s one of these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Saturday Links #11 at Things in the Sky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saturday Links #11 at Things in the Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Spirit, Brett has two good posts on them this work. First, he talks about how Spirit is introducing onboard advertising, and then he talks about Spirit&#8217;s financial [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Spirit, Brett has two good posts on them this work. First, he talks about how Spirit is introducing onboard advertising, and then he talks about Spirit&#8217;s financial [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RuralRob</title>
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		<dc:creator>RuralRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think of all the legal BS that will occur some day when there is a major disaster involving one of these ad-laden planes, and the advertisers scramble the Ad-Hiding-Force to the crash site with duct tape and tarps to make sure no pictures of charred wreckage/bodies with ads visible near them make it out to the public eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think of all the legal BS that will occur some day when there is a major disaster involving one of these ad-laden planes, and the advertisers scramble the Ad-Hiding-Force to the crash site with duct tape and tarps to make sure no pictures of charred wreckage/bodies with ads visible near them make it out to the public eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryanair is nasty.

I gotta fly Air Asia soon, thankfully it will be very early in the morning after 20+ hours of flying, so I won&#039;t mind the pain.

All that cranky all over the plane..oy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryanair is nasty.</p>
<p>I gotta fly Air Asia soon, thankfully it will be very early in the morning after 20+ hours of flying, so I won&#8217;t mind the pain.</p>
<p>All that cranky all over the plane..oy!</p>
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		<title>By: David SF east bay</title>
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		<dc:creator>David SF east bay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The newspaper has ad, magazines have ads, it&#039;s not like we don&#039;t see ads everywhere we do. I&#039;m actually tired of seeing ads thrown in my face everywhere I go and every think I look at. Funny how these company&#039;s spend millions to show their product in ads, and we the public are tired of ads. Would people not go to McDonalds or Wal-Mart if they didn&#039;t see ads on TV for those places, I think not.

The only bad things about ads on planes is that you will have bored people with ink pens and magic markers doing their own &#039;art&#039; work on the ads. I&#039;m sure parents will love the creative language their child will be looking at for 5 hours across country. Will airlines have to hire more workers to clean and replace those ads every day when they are defaced. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The newspaper has ad, magazines have ads, it&#8217;s not like we don&#8217;t see ads everywhere we do. I&#8217;m actually tired of seeing ads thrown in my face everywhere I go and every think I look at. Funny how these company&#8217;s spend millions to show their product in ads, and we the public are tired of ads. Would people not go to McDonalds or Wal-Mart if they didn&#8217;t see ads on TV for those places, I think not.</p>
<p>The only bad things about ads on planes is that you will have bored people with ink pens and magic markers doing their own &#8216;art&#8217; work on the ads. I&#8217;m sure parents will love the creative language their child will be looking at for 5 hours across country. Will airlines have to hire more workers to clean and replace those ads every day when they are defaced. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benji - Spirit likes to call itself the first Ultra Low Cost Carrier, so they would do anything to enable lower fares.  That&#039;s why I figured they&#039;d go first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benji &#8211; Spirit likes to call itself the first Ultra Low Cost Carrier, so they would do anything to enable lower fares.  That&#8217;s why I figured they&#8217;d go first.</p>
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		<title>By: Benji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, we knew Ryanair does that.

I kind of would have expected Southwest to do it here, first, though.  Why did you think Spirit, Cranky?

And your CF ad is terrifying.  Hilarious, but terrifying.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, we knew Ryanair does that.</p>
<p>I kind of would have expected Southwest to do it here, first, though.  Why did you think Spirit, Cranky?</p>
<p>And your CF ad is terrifying.  Hilarious, but terrifying.  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As people have mentioned, Ryanair in Europe are quite happy to run ads for a fee anywhere they can on a plane. The audio ones (e.g. for alcohol and lottery scratchcards) which plug products sold onboard are annoying but bearable. 

Interestingly, while they have been going on for a while about trying to sell ads on seatbacks, overhead bins and the exterior of the plan, I have never seen another company&#039;s ads on these locations. I don&#039;t know for certain, but I would guess that there just haven&#039;t been that many takers for this kind of advertising space. 

Budget airlines have a model of a single aircraft type which means they can switch aircraft at short notice if need be - this means they can&#039;t always guarantee which route a plane will fly - particularly important to advertisers in Europe who want to focus ads on one particular country. Further, does a company risk its brand being devalued or at least losing a bit of control of its brand if too closely associated by consumers with Ryanair ? Brand awareness needs 5 seconds - putting it in front of someone for 3 hours may well be counterproductive and the marketing people may know this !

If I was a marketing exec for a multinational, I&#039;d be keen to maintain brand control and avoid being seen too closely with a particular airline that does not have a reputation for always being consumer friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As people have mentioned, Ryanair in Europe are quite happy to run ads for a fee anywhere they can on a plane. The audio ones (e.g. for alcohol and lottery scratchcards) which plug products sold onboard are annoying but bearable. </p>
<p>Interestingly, while they have been going on for a while about trying to sell ads on seatbacks, overhead bins and the exterior of the plan, I have never seen another company&#8217;s ads on these locations. I don&#8217;t know for certain, but I would guess that there just haven&#8217;t been that many takers for this kind of advertising space. </p>
<p>Budget airlines have a model of a single aircraft type which means they can switch aircraft at short notice if need be &#8211; this means they can&#8217;t always guarantee which route a plane will fly &#8211; particularly important to advertisers in Europe who want to focus ads on one particular country. Further, does a company risk its brand being devalued or at least losing a bit of control of its brand if too closely associated by consumers with Ryanair ? Brand awareness needs 5 seconds &#8211; putting it in front of someone for 3 hours may well be counterproductive and the marketing people may know this !</p>
<p>If I was a marketing exec for a multinational, I&#8217;d be keen to maintain brand control and avoid being seen too closely with a particular airline that does not have a reputation for always being consumer friendly.</p>
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