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	<title>Comments on: Ryanair Jet Did Not &#8220;Plunge&#8221; 26,000 Feet</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick Smith</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/08/28/ryanair-jet-did-not-plunge-26000-feet/comment-page-1/#comment-63741</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similar AP distortions followed the recent Qantas mishap, as well as an Air Dolimiti incident.  

Here is a column I wrote on the Qantas affair....
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2008/08/01/285/

Patrick Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar AP distortions followed the recent Qantas mishap, as well as an Air Dolimiti incident.  </p>
<p>Here is a column I wrote on the Qantas affair&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2008/08/01/285/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2008/08/01/285/</a></p>
<p>Patrick Smith</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/08/28/ryanair-jet-did-not-plunge-26000-feet/comment-page-1/#comment-63139</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MarkT wrote:

&quot;In the cabin, pulling the mask towards you pulls out a firing pin that sets off a percussion cap that starts a chlorate core burning at 400 degrees F and that produces oxygen.

The pilots have tanks of oxygen though.&quot;

This is true.  Some MX friends of mine tell me this process creates funny smelling O2.  You may also remember that it was pax O2 generators improperly stored in the fwd cargo compartment on that Value Jet that caused a fire and resulted in a crash in the everglades.

As for the flightdeck&#039;s tanked oxygen, taking a few hits of it helps with a hangover.  Or so I&#039;ve been told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MarkT wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the cabin, pulling the mask towards you pulls out a firing pin that sets off a percussion cap that starts a chlorate core burning at 400 degrees F and that produces oxygen.</p>
<p>The pilots have tanks of oxygen though.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is true.  Some MX friends of mine tell me this process creates funny smelling O2.  You may also remember that it was pax O2 generators improperly stored in the fwd cargo compartment on that Value Jet that caused a fire and resulted in a crash in the everglades.</p>
<p>As for the flightdeck&#8217;s tanked oxygen, taking a few hits of it helps with a hangover.  Or so I&#8217;ve been told.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkT</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/08/28/ryanair-jet-did-not-plunge-26000-feet/comment-page-1/#comment-62990</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; those oxygen masks are attached to tanks

In the cabin, pulling the mask towards you pulls out a firing pin that sets off a percussion cap that starts a chlorate core burning at 400 degrees F and that produces oxygen.

The pilots have tanks of oxygen though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; those oxygen masks are attached to tanks</p>
<p>In the cabin, pulling the mask towards you pulls out a firing pin that sets off a percussion cap that starts a chlorate core burning at 400 degrees F and that produces oxygen.</p>
<p>The pilots have tanks of oxygen though.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Lusk</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/08/28/ryanair-jet-did-not-plunge-26000-feet/comment-page-1/#comment-62611</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Lusk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm maybe we better go to Plan B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm maybe we better go to Plan B</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/08/28/ryanair-jet-did-not-plunge-26000-feet/comment-page-1/#comment-62592</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan/Axel - Well, they got a Cranky Jackass last time, so I thought I&#039;d just let it slide.  Next time . . .

Brian - Hmm, can we borrow one of your planes to &quot;plunge&quot; 26,000 feet and test this thing out?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan/Axel &#8211; Well, they got a Cranky Jackass last time, so I thought I&#8217;d just let it slide.  Next time . . .</p>
<p>Brian &#8211; Hmm, can we borrow one of your planes to &#8220;plunge&#8221; 26,000 feet and test this thing out?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Axel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree whith dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree whith dan</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprising. The objective of newspapers is to sell newspapers, not to report the news. 

How many &#039;papers do you think they are going to sell with headlines like: &quot;Everybody calm as airliner descends to safe altitude&quot;.

This morning I saw a report of the Qantas &#039;challenge&#039; with their Oxygen bottle. Apparently when it &#039;exploded&#039; it blew a &#039;car-sized&#039; hole in the fuselage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprising. The objective of newspapers is to sell newspapers, not to report the news. </p>
<p>How many &#8216;papers do you think they are going to sell with headlines like: &#8220;Everybody calm as airliner descends to safe altitude&#8221;.</p>
<p>This morning I saw a report of the Qantas &#8216;challenge&#8217; with their Oxygen bottle. Apparently when it &#8216;exploded&#8217; it blew a &#8216;car-sized&#8217; hole in the fuselage.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Lusk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Lusk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cranky Mythbuster--I like the sound of that.  If we can fire guns, blow things up, and drop things off buildings, would you keep me in mind as an assistant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cranky Mythbuster&#8211;I like the sound of that.  If we can fire guns, blow things up, and drop things off buildings, would you keep me in mind as an assistant?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No cranky jackass for this one? Aww. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No cranky jackass for this one? Aww. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true, that after the landing, the flight attendants then went and collected 5 Euro from each passenger who used the oxygen masks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true, that after the landing, the flight attendants then went and collected 5 Euro from each passenger who used the oxygen masks?</p>
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