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	<title>Comments on: NBTA:  Check Out the Swiss Aerobed Seat</title>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/08/11/nbta-check-out-the-swiss-aerobed-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-61350</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad - Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but I believe Delta may have the seat, but they won&#039;t have the air cushion.  That is something the Swiss is pioneering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad &#8211; Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but I believe Delta may have the seat, but they won&#8217;t have the air cushion.  That is something the Swiss is pioneering.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/08/11/nbta-check-out-the-swiss-aerobed-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-61348</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the same seat that Delta will begin installing on the 767 fleet beginning this fall.  In fact, Delta announced the product before Swiss, but they have not yet shown the &quot;final&quot; seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same seat that Delta will begin installing on the 767 fleet beginning this fall.  In fact, Delta announced the product before Swiss, but they have not yet shown the &#8220;final&#8221; seat.</p>
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		<title>By: QRC</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/08/11/nbta-check-out-the-swiss-aerobed-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-61223</link>
		<dc:creator>QRC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cranky, let me tell you - the seat softness and pillow makes a huge difference. BA figured it out in J, although sometimes there is a hinge that I find I have to add an extra pillow for (underneath my back).

CX didn&#039;t get it - and I&#039;m not the #1 fan of their J because of it. I even still lay a blanket under me in their new F. Even as a loyal CX guy, I fly BA every month or so when I have to go to LHR assuming I&#039;m in J (still use CX for F..BA F is too narrow compared to CX). 

If this Swiss product is what it sounds like, it will definitely win my return service - softness in the seat is something very underrated (everyone is obsessed with &quot;flat&quot;, and forgets that flat doesn&#039;t mean s$@T if it is hard and lumpy like a rock).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cranky, let me tell you &#8211; the seat softness and pillow makes a huge difference. BA figured it out in J, although sometimes there is a hinge that I find I have to add an extra pillow for (underneath my back).</p>
<p>CX didn&#8217;t get it &#8211; and I&#8217;m not the #1 fan of their J because of it. I even still lay a blanket under me in their new F. Even as a loyal CX guy, I fly BA every month or so when I have to go to LHR assuming I&#8217;m in J (still use CX for F..BA F is too narrow compared to CX). </p>
<p>If this Swiss product is what it sounds like, it will definitely win my return service &#8211; softness in the seat is something very underrated (everyone is obsessed with &#8220;flat&#8221;, and forgets that flat doesn&#8217;t mean s$@T if it is hard and lumpy like a rock).</p>
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		<title>By: j p</title>
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		<dc:creator>j p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, the lower &quot;horizontal&quot; density is more than made up for by the greater &quot;vertical&quot; density.  They only need a pitch of ~47&quot; (or less) per row which allows them to fit in enough rows to compensate for the lack of seats per row.  All in all, the Thompson seats that Swiss chose allow for the greatest number of &quot;full-flat&quot; seats compared with any other major layout(eg, angled-lay flat, herring-bone, UA/CO style (and yes, I know they&#039;re slightly different), SQ, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, the lower &#8220;horizontal&#8221; density is more than made up for by the greater &#8220;vertical&#8221; density.  They only need a pitch of ~47&#8243; (or less) per row which allows them to fit in enough rows to compensate for the lack of seats per row.  All in all, the Thompson seats that Swiss chose allow for the greatest number of &#8220;full-flat&#8221; seats compared with any other major layout(eg, angled-lay flat, herring-bone, UA/CO style (and yes, I know they&#8217;re slightly different), SQ, etc.).</p>
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