Comments on: Horizon to Go All Q400 and Other Interesting Alaska Notes http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Cranky Flier » American and Alaska Detail Plans to Shrink http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-44234 The Cranky Flier » American and Alaska Detail Plans to Shrink Wed, 28 May 2008 14:42:09 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/#comment-44234 [...] month ago, Horizon Air revealed its plans to focus on the Q400, drop the Q200 and CRJ-700 aircraft, and shrink its operation by a fair amount. Then last week, [...] [...] month ago, Horizon Air revealed its plans to focus on the Q400, drop the Q200 and CRJ-700 aircraft, and shrink its operation by a fair amount. Then last week, [...]

]]> By: CF http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-40848 CF Mon, 05 May 2008 00:59:47 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/#comment-40848 Hey everyone, I´m taking a break from my travels to catch up on comments. So . . . Dan Hill - I haven´t been on a Q400 myself, so I don´t know how loud it is personally, but I do know that it´s far less cramped than a CRJ. That may not make up for the noise or longer flight time, depending upon your perspective. Jeff K - Not sure if they´ll reduce frequency on the shuttle route, but I know they will on other smaller ones. As for the beer, I think (hope!) that´s staying. Hey everyone, I´m taking a break from my travels to catch up on comments. So . . .

Dan Hill – I haven´t been on a Q400 myself, so I don´t know how loud it is personally, but I do know that it´s far less cramped than a CRJ. That may not make up for the noise or longer flight time, depending upon your perspective.

Jeff K – Not sure if they´ll reduce frequency on the shuttle route, but I know they will on other smaller ones. As for the beer, I think (hope!) that´s staying.

]]> By: Gee Four http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-40568 Gee Four Thu, 01 May 2008 18:56:48 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/#comment-40568 Alaska assumes it can skate through with all these fees while everyone has sticker-shock over fuel prices. It's the "Great Unbundling" as your published air fare really shows less than the total cost of travel. Second bag. Phone reservation. Cat in cabin (should be $5,000 each way). The fees are wicked. Satanic. They only go up and they never go away. It's another way to obscure the true cost. Sad. Alaska assumes it can skate through with all these fees while everyone has sticker-shock over fuel prices. It’s the “Great Unbundling” as your published air fare really shows less than the total cost of travel. Second bag. Phone reservation. Cat in cabin (should be $5,000 each way).
The fees are wicked. Satanic. They only go up and they never go away. It’s another way to obscure the true cost. Sad.

]]> By: Ken http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-40181 Ken Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:32:43 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/#comment-40181 EAT (Wenatchee) to SEA flights are generally pretty full. AK has apparently already reduced the sked from 6 to 5 a day, maybe anticipating fewer flights but more capacity per flight. That could be a good thing re aircraft (no more "vomit comet") but less beneficial re flight skeds (making connections in Seattle for on-going flights). Overall, still like AK a lot. EAT (Wenatchee) to SEA flights are generally pretty full. AK has apparently already reduced the sked from 6 to 5 a day, maybe anticipating fewer flights but more capacity per flight. That could be a good thing re aircraft (no more “vomit comet”) but less beneficial re flight skeds (making connections in Seattle for on-going flights). Overall, still like AK a lot.

]]> By: Jeff K http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-40139 Jeff K Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:05:27 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/#comment-40139 I'd guess they will reduce their SEA-PDX shuttle-like frequency due to the usage of the Q400 instead of the Q200? Hope they don't stop the free beer on that route ;) I’d guess they will reduce their SEA-PDX shuttle-like frequency due to the usage of the Q400 instead of the Q200?

Hope they don’t stop the free beer on that route ;)

]]> By: Dan Hill http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-40085 Dan Hill Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:23:27 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/#comment-40085 LAX-Portland might be within the Q400's range but you don't want to sit in one of these things for long. Yes the anti-vibration technology does provide a better cabin environment than the older Dash-8 models but it's still a small, cramped, noisy turboprop! LAX-Portland might be within the Q400′s range but you don’t want to sit in one of these things for long. Yes the anti-vibration technology does provide a better cabin environment than the older Dash-8 models but it’s still a small, cramped, noisy turboprop!

]]> By: Jeff K http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-40055 Jeff K Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:13:33 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/#comment-40055 I guess that Horizon Q200 I'm flying SEA-EAT in late May will be more interesting now because it's on the way out of the fleet. But, overall it will be crappy because by then they will have started charging for a 2nd bag. I guess that Horizon Q200 I’m flying SEA-EAT in late May will be more interesting now because it’s on the way out of the fleet.

But, overall it will be crappy because by then they will have started charging for a 2nd bag.

]]> By: Jason H http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-40052 Jason H Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:14:19 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/29/horizon-to-go-all-q400-and-other-interesting-alaska-notes/#comment-40052 The Q400 does have a 1,300 mile range, so it could fly most of the same routes as the CRJ700. However, the economic point is somewhere around 600 miles. At that point the fuel burn to flight time value begins to swing back toward the CRJ. The Q400 is also a pretty nice aircraft to fly in. The noise and vibration reduction technology is pretty good assuming you aren't sitting right next to the prop, but the same goes for sitting in the back of a CRJ. The Q400 does have a 1,300 mile range, so it could fly most of the same routes as the CRJ700. However, the economic point is somewhere around 600 miles. At that point the fuel burn to flight time value begins to swing back toward the CRJ.

The Q400 is also a pretty nice aircraft to fly in. The noise and vibration reduction technology is pretty good assuming you aren’t sitting right next to the prop, but the same goes for sitting in the back of a CRJ.

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