Comments on: Don’t Blame the MD-80 For This Mess http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:46:24 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Axel Sarkissian http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-58447 Axel Sarkissian Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:04:15 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-58447 Mark Rascio, if you fly air france LAX to LHR, they have 777s whith the best service ever in economy, and they do have back tvs. Mark Rascio, if you fly air france LAX to LHR, they have 777s whith the best service ever in economy, and they do have back tvs.

]]> By: bob http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-37041 bob Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:23:20 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-37041 I think that a wire bindel tie that is off just a little bit is no big deal. what is important is that the bundel is not in a position to rub against any metal fuselage shapes.That could wear through the insulation and cause electrical problems.If this is not the case, then the FAA has just got a mission that is not about safety but something else. I think that a wire bindel tie that is off just a little bit is no big deal. what is important is that the bundel is not in a position to rub against any metal fuselage shapes.That could wear through the insulation and cause electrical problems.If this is not the case, then the FAA has just got a mission that is not about safety but something else.

]]> By: F.O. Mann http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-36985 F.O. Mann Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:05:57 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-36985 As usual, it is Joe Brancatelli who gets to the heart of the matter and doesn't get blinded by the spin: http://joe.biztravelife.com/joe.html As usual, it is Joe Brancatelli who gets to the heart of the matter and doesn’t get blinded by the spin:
http://joe.biztravelife.com/joe.html

]]> By: Yo http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-36760 Yo Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:46:00 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-36760 BTW, on the way to work this morning, saw a beautiful ATI DC8-62 coming in for landing. But with the big quiet engines. Sure was a pretty old school sight. BTW, on the way to work this morning, saw a beautiful ATI DC8-62 coming in for landing. But with the big quiet engines.

Sure was a pretty old school sight.

]]> By: Mark Rascio http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-36736 Mark Rascio Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:00:41 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-36736 Jason, You are right..they missed the boat some time ago. Now with fuel at a premium, they will be at a disadvantage to an airline that did modernize. It will be a good position for the leasing companies...they'll get to name their price. Jason, You are right..they missed the boat some time ago. Now with fuel at a premium, they will be at a disadvantage to an airline that did modernize. It will be a good position for the leasing companies…they’ll get to name their price.

]]> By: Jason H http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-36694 Jason H Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:01:48 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-36694 Mark: Unfortunetly for the US airlines, even if they sped up their fleet renewal programs, they still would have to fly their older aircraft for several more years. Both Boeing and Airbus are sold out well into the next decade and unless the US carriers swap build slots with foreign carriers, they aren't going to get their aircraft for awhile. Mark: Unfortunetly for the US airlines, even if they sped up their fleet renewal programs, they still would have to fly their older aircraft for several more years. Both Boeing and Airbus are sold out well into the next decade and unless the US carriers swap build slots with foreign carriers, they aren’t going to get their aircraft for awhile.

]]> By: David Donar http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-36675 David Donar Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:20:19 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-36675 If American keeps this up, they'll have to change their name to AMERICAN'T. http://politicalgrafitti.blogspot.com/2008/04/americant-airlines.html If American keeps this up, they’ll have to change their name to AMERICAN’T.

http://politicalgrafitti.blogspot.com/2008/04/americant-airlines.html

]]> By: Wonko Beeblebrox http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-36665 Wonko Beeblebrox Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:21:39 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-36665 I think the equation used to be that RJs were cheaper to run since the Labor was cheaper on an RJ, and Labor was the mostly costly part of running a plane. Now that fuel is the mostly costly part, I'd expet that we'd see fewer RJs, certainly fewer small RJs (<50 pax), and probably almost no new 50 seaters. As such, I'd guess that the "RJ growth" will be in planes sized like the CRJ700, CRJ900, E170, E190 and Q400.... I think the equation used to be that RJs were cheaper to run since the Labor was cheaper on an RJ, and Labor was the mostly costly part of running a plane. Now that fuel is the mostly costly part, I’d expet that we’d see fewer RJs, certainly fewer small RJs (<50 pax), and probably almost no new 50 seaters. As such, I’d guess that the “RJ growth” will be in planes sized like the CRJ700, CRJ900, E170, E190 and Q400….

]]> By: Mark Rascio http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-36656 Mark Rascio Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:31:29 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-36656 On another topic, anyone have the latest on the debate between using small RJ's vs. larger aircraft. Read something on the road recently that the increased use of RJ's is causing crowding and some airlines are re-thinking the expansion of the use of these jets just to offer more frequent service. On another topic, anyone have the latest on the debate between using small RJ’s vs. larger aircraft. Read something on the road recently that the increased use of RJ’s is causing crowding and some airlines are re-thinking the expansion of the use of these jets just to offer more frequent service.

]]> By: Mark Rascio http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-36655 Mark Rascio Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:29:56 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/10/dont-blame-the-md-80-for-this-mess/#comment-36655 Jason H. KLM does run 14 MD-11's still in their fleet but they have underwent a huge modernization also replacing older 747's and 767's with 777'sand A330-200's. Northwest, just a few months back, retired their DC-10's...while still a tri-jet the MD-11 is a more modern jet than the DC-10 which until recently was flown by a US carrier. Anyway, my observations are not in a vacuum...I've been reading articles where the lack of modernization programs within US Airlines is now being noticed by the media and many travelers. My hope is the airlines wake up and can accelerate a program to modernize. US Airways, with some success under it's belt, has not began such a program. Other airlines need to follow. Jason H. KLM does run 14 MD-11’s still in their fleet but they have underwent a huge modernization also replacing older 747’s and 767’s with 777’sand A330-200’s. Northwest, just a few months back, retired their DC-10’s…while still a tri-jet the MD-11 is a more modern jet than the DC-10 which until recently was flown by a US carrier.

Anyway, my observations are not in a vacuum…I’ve been reading articles where the lack of modernization programs within US Airlines is now being noticed by the media and many travelers. My hope is the airlines wake up and can accelerate a program to modernize. US Airways, with some success under it’s belt, has not began such a program. Other airlines need to follow.

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