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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/03/ata-shuts-down-immediately/comment-page-1/#comment-35663</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 02:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...not sure about the winds aloft between HNL-NRT.  Very well could be the case that they might prevent regular 757 service, although I can&#039;t imagine them being worse than the North Atlantic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;not sure about the winds aloft between HNL-NRT.  Very well could be the case that they might prevent regular 757 service, although I can&#8217;t imagine them being worse than the North Atlantic.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cranky Flier &#187; An ATA Obituary</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/03/ata-shuts-down-immediately/comment-page-1/#comment-35587</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cranky Flier &#187; An ATA Obituary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] writing an obituary back then, and really, I was. Combine that with my brief heads up yesterday on ATA&#8217;s bankruptcy filing and the excellent comments that followed, and there&#8217;s not really much left to say, but of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] writing an obituary back then, and really, I was. Combine that with my brief heads up yesterday on ATA&#8217;s bankruptcy filing and the excellent comments that followed, and there&#8217;s not really much left to say, but of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/03/ata-shuts-down-immediately/comment-page-1/#comment-35498</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next one: Alitalia :-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/04/04/cnitaly104.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next one: Alitalia :-)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/04/04/cnitaly104.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/04/04/cnitaly104.xml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yo</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/03/ata-shuts-down-immediately/comment-page-1/#comment-35481</link>
		<dc:creator>Yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant 180 ETOPS.  LOL!

And I left out UA as a LAX-HNL carrier (duh!)

What about the winds aloft between HNL and NRT?  I thought those were really nasty, would that affect the flight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant 180 ETOPS.  LOL!</p>
<p>And I left out UA as a LAX-HNL carrier (duh!)</p>
<p>What about the winds aloft between HNL and NRT?  I thought those were really nasty, would that affect the flight?</p>
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		<title>By: Akit</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/03/ata-shuts-down-immediately/comment-page-1/#comment-35461</link>
		<dc:creator>Akit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least there won&#039;t be anymore confusion between ATA and Air Tran Airways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least there won&#8217;t be anymore confusion between ATA and Air Tran Airways.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Barnard</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/03/ata-shuts-down-immediately/comment-page-1/#comment-35458</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Barnard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, a better question is how many of ATA&#039;s fleet will make it into Global Aero Logistics&#039;s other airlines...  Some of the DC-10s apparently are already operated by World Airways..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, a better question is how many of ATA&#8217;s fleet will make it into Global Aero Logistics&#8217;s other airlines&#8230;  Some of the DC-10s apparently are already operated by World Airways..</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/04/03/ata-shuts-down-immediately/comment-page-1/#comment-35455</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current CEO of ATA’s parent co., Global Aero Logistics, is John Denison. He’s an ex-CFO &amp; ex-EVP at Southwest Airlines and ex-CEO of ATA. His former positions @ Southwest should mean he works well with current Southwest CEO Gary Kelly. (Kelly was Southwest CFO under John Denison during Denison&#039;s tenure as SW Exec VP.) I would look for Southwest to benefit from ATA&#039;s demise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current CEO of ATA’s parent co., Global Aero Logistics, is John Denison. He’s an ex-CFO &amp; ex-EVP at Southwest Airlines and ex-CEO of ATA. His former positions @ Southwest should mean he works well with current Southwest CEO Gary Kelly. (Kelly was Southwest CFO under John Denison during Denison&#8217;s tenure as SW Exec VP.) I would look for Southwest to benefit from ATA&#8217;s demise.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, HNL-NRT is shorter than the 757 flights to Europe that Continental operates from CLE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, HNL-NRT is shorter than the 757 flights to Europe that Continental operates from CLE.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Barnard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Barnard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18 minute ETOPS?  Yes, planes aren&#039;t allowed outside of Seattle, DFW, DC, NYC, and other metro areas with two airports. :-p

Perhaps 180 minute ETOPS is what you intended...

Ahh, the joy of typos.. (No hard feelings Yo, I just couldn&#039;t resist...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18 minute ETOPS?  Yes, planes aren&#8217;t allowed outside of Seattle, DFW, DC, NYC, and other metro areas with two airports. :-p</p>
<p>Perhaps 180 minute ETOPS is what you intended&#8230;</p>
<p>Ahh, the joy of typos.. (No hard feelings Yo, I just couldn&#8217;t resist&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are already too many carriers doing LAX-HNL, (CO, NW, DL, HA, AA.  I don&#039;t think a 757 ETOPS can do HNL-NRT, that is a long flight for twin engine 18 minute ETOPS, and Midway Island isn&#039;t open for emergency landings any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are already too many carriers doing LAX-HNL, (CO, NW, DL, HA, AA.  I don&#8217;t think a 757 ETOPS can do HNL-NRT, that is a long flight for twin engine 18 minute ETOPS, and Midway Island isn&#8217;t open for emergency landings any more.</p>
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