Comments on: Delta To Install the Cozy Suite in Coach on International Fleet

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By: Three people, six arms, four armrests: Can they coexist? » Upgrade: Travel Better

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:36:11 +0000

[...] Help may be on the way… slowly. Airlines and seat manufacturers have been floating alternative designs that offer more armrest privacy, either with alternating rear-facing seats, or with staggered rows. [...]

By: Claustrophobic

Claustrophobic — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:38:04 +0000

I’ll try anything that stops someone from reclining to within inches of my face for 9+ hours. If they don’t work – it’s back to BA premium economy.

By: QRC

QRC — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 05:01:29 +0000

I’ve done those Y seats only once, although the new CX J class and F are really great (yet CX J you actually can’t talk to anyone, because they have massive walls between you and your neighbor…I suppose not ideal if you’re traveling with a companion, but I always appreciate it because I always just go for business. The FT CX forum was/still is full of complaints on numerous threads).

(the bad)
1.) As someone said above, you lose legroom. I’m 5’10″ and that’s just about at the limit I think where it starts to get annoying that you’re sliding forward as opposed to reclining.
2.) There are large entertainment module things under the middle and window seats on the 747, they they only leave about 2 inches from the floor to them for you to try to jam your fee under.
3.) Because the seat in front of you is a shell thing there’s no pouch, aka you can’t put your laptop, books, newspaper etc.anywhere except your lap really.

(the good)
1.) Nobody can recline into you
2.) If you’re the type who feels guilty when you recline, you can do it guilt free.
3.) It comes with the new on demand movie/game/whatever system and an incredibly high-resolution LCD screen.
4.) Every seat has a STANDARD power outlet that is in the back of seat when you fold down the tray. It isn’t great if you want to use your laptop and not open the tray (impossible), but really a clever use of space and finally an airline figured out that no-one buys those dumb airplane-only adapters. CX just gives a standard multi-plug socket that all plus – American, European, Chinese, whatever.
5.) All in all, I don’t envy those tall people who have to do this a long ways, but anyone maybe under 5’10″ will have a good time. It’s still just coach.

By: CF

CF — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:53:28 +0000

QRC – I haven’t seen the seats myself, but I did write about them when they came out. Are they any good?

I remember that Lufthansa thing as well. I’m not sure how I feel about that. You still need to be able to sit. How does that work on the westbound flight? Not good.

By: QRC

QRC — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:03:38 +0000

Cranky, have you seen CX’s new coach seats? Definitely not this radical, but similar in that they have a shell hard back and the seat slides forward to “recline,” thus the person in front of you can’t recline into you.

Also, there was an article way back when probably 6-12 months ago in I think WSJ that talked about Lufthansa exploring the possibility for 3-stacked high narrow berths in Economy instead of chairs. Thoughts?

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:51:10 +0000

I think we’ll see a lot more of this odd “seat stacking” in the future.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:39:07 +0000

Did anyone look at their website? I particularly like their commentary on this page: http://www.thompsonsolutions.co.uk/ts_cozysuite_comfort.html

“These are valuable increases given the continued growth in average passenger size (particularly US nationals) and the remaining lifespan of the current generation of aircraft.”

Great marketing if you ask me … good enough for even fat Americans! LOL.`

By: Akit

Akit — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:22:01 +0000

This sounds like an interesting idea to fix-up the coach class. If you are able to make the seats in a way where you can manipulate someone’s mind to make them feel more cozy, I’d be interested, even if the seat width or knee room is just slightly smaller.

By: Upgrades and Downgrades — April 2, 2008 — Lawsuits, condoms, and the demise of the ghetto upgrade » Upgrade: Travel Better

Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:18:20 +0000

[...] Upgraded: Single travelers in Delta coach Downgraded: Ghetto upgraders Delta is buying Thompson Solutions’ “Cozy Suites” for its widebody jets, to be installed in 2010. The seats are a little odd, with a staggered configuration with no two people sitting precisely next to each other. More armrest space is one perk with this approach. Good for solo travelers, bad for couples and families. But even worse for anyone hoping to get a “ghetto upgrade” — an entire row of seats to oneself, allowing you to lift the armrests and stretch across. It’s also somewhat reminiscent of the alternating forward-backward-forward seating that was floated just about a year ago. But it’s thinking differently, and I like that. (via Cranky) [...]