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		<title>By: UK flying tips - Musings of The Global Traveller</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-93208</link>
		<dc:creator>UK flying tips - Musings of The Global Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for airlines changing terminals at London Heathrow in the Great LHR Terminal Shuffle, he&#8217;s posted the LHR changes information that is to hand - here. These are incomplete and, I think, optimistic in some cases. Personally I expect there will be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for airlines changing terminals at London Heathrow in the Great LHR Terminal Shuffle, he&#8217;s posted the LHR changes information that is to hand &#8211; here. These are incomplete and, I think, optimistic in some cases. Personally I expect there will be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Great London Heathrow Terminal Shuffle Extended - Musings of The Global Traveller</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-93203</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great London Heathrow Terminal Shuffle Extended - Musings of The Global Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] due to change terminals in a great shuffle lasting around 12 months. The Cranky Flier did a good summary of the great LHR terminal shuffle last month. Forget that timetable, it is now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] due to change terminals in a great shuffle lasting around 12 months. The Cranky Flier did a good summary of the great LHR terminal shuffle last month. Forget that timetable, it is now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-82195</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated to show the move-in dates for SkyTeam carriers this November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updated to show the move-in dates for SkyTeam carriers this November.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-68239</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated again to show that the remaining BA short haul flight moves have slipped into February now.  I&#039;m looking into dates for other airline changes as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updated again to show that the remaining BA short haul flight moves have slipped into February now.  I&#8217;m looking into dates for other airline changes as well.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cranky Flier &#187; The Latest on Heathrow Terminal 5</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-67508</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cranky Flier &#187; The Latest on Heathrow Terminal 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anyway, I&#8217;m sure many of you haven&#8217;t been keeping track, but I have been keeping up my chart of Heathrow terminal changes on the site. Nearly all BA flights have moved to Terminal 5 now including a big move of long haul [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anyway, I&#8217;m sure many of you haven&#8217;t been keeping track, but I have been keeping up my chart of Heathrow terminal changes on the site. Nearly all BA flights have moved to Terminal 5 now including a big move of long haul [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-61908</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated once again.  BA has confirmed its last remaining short haul flights will move from T1 to T3 on January 27, 2009.  That just leaves the three long haul flights in T4 and discussions continue on the timing there.

Also, Iberia/Finnair have adjusted their times to move to T3 until January 27, 2009 as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updated once again.  BA has confirmed its last remaining short haul flights will move from T1 to T3 on January 27, 2009.  That just leaves the three long haul flights in T4 and discussions continue on the timing there.</p>
<p>Also, Iberia/Finnair have adjusted their times to move to T3 until January 27, 2009 as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobber</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-61510</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take your point, Cranky.  However, I would have thought they could adjust that relatively easily (and modestly), and use LHR-DEN as a staging point for more access to West coast and mid-West cities.  LHR-IAD is very well catered for but connections from IAD to West coast (as I have had to make on numerous occasions) are very tiresome and often problematic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take your point, Cranky.  However, I would have thought they could adjust that relatively easily (and modestly), and use LHR-DEN as a staging point for more access to West coast and mid-West cities.  LHR-IAD is very well catered for but connections from IAD to West coast (as I have had to make on numerous occasions) are very tiresome and often problematic.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-61509</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, Rob.  About that DEN flight . . . full doesn&#039;t mean profitable.  It&#039;s a long and expensive flight to fly, so the fares must not have been high enough to sustain.  Maybe we&#039;ll see it again when fuel comes down, but for now, it apparently doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, Rob.  About that DEN flight . . . full doesn&#8217;t mean profitable.  It&#8217;s a long and expensive flight to fly, so the fares must not have been high enough to sustain.  Maybe we&#8217;ll see it again when fuel comes down, but for now, it apparently doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi CF,

Just had first-hand experience of United post Terminal 1 relocation at LHR.  There are good and bad points.  First, the good: Immigration at Terminal 1 is a whole heap better than Terminal 3 (aka cattle shed). In fact, the new building are very pleasant all over Terminal 1.  The gates are light and spacious.  Which leads me to the bad; Organisation at the gates is cr@p to non-existent. We flew LHR-DEN-OAK with our 4yr and 2yr old kiddies, and the gate at LHR was right next to a US Airways flight (to PHL??) which boarded at the same time.  I&#039;m guessing there were 300+ passengers on  both flights (ours a 777, theirs an A330), yet the gates are so poorly organised that passengers on both flights were queueing together, in the same line, resulting in a bunfight when trying to get on board.  The Section boarding arrangements were irrelevant as you couldn&#039;t get passed anyone to actually board when you were called. Typically dire Heathrow organisation (or lack of). The other downside for non-premium UA flyers is that the lounge agreement, whereby UK-resident elite status passengers could use the UA Red Carpet club lounge regardless of which class they booked in (a small, but pleasant frill) no longer applies as the lounge is now Star Alliance, and they don&#039;t want any old scum in there anymore!!

On other matters, the LHR-DEN flight is a great one, with good connections (well, should have been), and I can&#039;t understand why they cut it.  I spoke with the aircrew, who all said the LHR-DEN is routinely rammed full (as it was on 7/31) and they can&#039;t fathom why it&#039;s been cut.

Cheers,

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi CF,</p>
<p>Just had first-hand experience of United post Terminal 1 relocation at LHR.  There are good and bad points.  First, the good: Immigration at Terminal 1 is a whole heap better than Terminal 3 (aka cattle shed). In fact, the new building are very pleasant all over Terminal 1.  The gates are light and spacious.  Which leads me to the bad; Organisation at the gates is cr@p to non-existent. We flew LHR-DEN-OAK with our 4yr and 2yr old kiddies, and the gate at LHR was right next to a US Airways flight (to PHL??) which boarded at the same time.  I&#8217;m guessing there were 300+ passengers on  both flights (ours a 777, theirs an A330), yet the gates are so poorly organised that passengers on both flights were queueing together, in the same line, resulting in a bunfight when trying to get on board.  The Section boarding arrangements were irrelevant as you couldn&#8217;t get passed anyone to actually board when you were called. Typically dire Heathrow organisation (or lack of). The other downside for non-premium UA flyers is that the lounge agreement, whereby UK-resident elite status passengers could use the UA Red Carpet club lounge regardless of which class they booked in (a small, but pleasant frill) no longer applies as the lounge is now Star Alliance, and they don&#8217;t want any old scum in there anymore!!</p>
<p>On other matters, the LHR-DEN flight is a great one, with good connections (well, should have been), and I can&#8217;t understand why they cut it.  I spoke with the aircrew, who all said the LHR-DEN is routinely rammed full (as it was on 7/31) and they can&#8217;t fathom why it&#8217;s been cut.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2008/03/09/london-heathrow-terminal-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-57597</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the date has been set for the last of the T5 moves.  Boston, Calgary, Chennai, Delhi, Denver, Dhaka, Dubai, Islamabad, Kolkata, Montreal, Seattle, Shanghai will go on October 22.  The rest of the flights will stay where they are until they eventually move to T3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the date has been set for the last of the T5 moves.  Boston, Calgary, Chennai, Delhi, Denver, Dhaka, Dubai, Islamabad, Kolkata, Montreal, Seattle, Shanghai will go on October 22.  The rest of the flights will stay where they are until they eventually move to T3.</p>
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