Comments on: An Advertisement for Airport Ground Radar

By: CF

CF — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:48:21 +0000

Papa Kilo – I found this through the Get the Flick blog, which is linked up at the top of this post. He was a controller as well.

I didn’t see the hearings, so please feel free to give your own opinion in the comments here.

By: Papa Kilo

Papa Kilo — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:47:09 +0000

Cranky;

I wonder where you obtained this. I have had to watch it for the last 3 years,when I was a controller. It was a FAA power-point cumputer based, manditory viewing.

That being said, I have seen worse.

I hope that you spent the time watching the hearings on June 11th. Maybe you would like to comment on those.

I drive, not fly……….31 years in aviation. Retired!

By: Kevin Beane

Kevin Beane — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:05:24 +0000

According to the NTSB, this happened in 1999 and not last year (scroll down to the bottom).

http://www.ntsb.gov/Events/2000/incursion/incur_video.htm

By: QRC

QRC — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:57:23 +0000

First, the controller is absolutely unbelievable. I love her statement at the end “UA is nowhere near an active runway, but you can hold…” You have to be kidding me. The US Airways pilot saves disaster, hands down. The controller’s pigheadedness almost causes what very likely would’ve been a two-airplane fatal accident. Sure, UA makes the wrong turn, but they clearly state their position three times and the controller refuses to believe it and just assumes UA is wrong. “Crap your pants” is right. I would hope that, instead of having a bone to pick with pilots who probably make communications errors sometimes, controllers give them the benefit of the doubt when they are ordering a takeoff onto a runway which another aircraft (UA, in this case) states they are on, especially when they don’t have visual or ground radar. That is inexcusable. How can you take that chance? Really, really bad.

So many problems here though…ground radar would be a blessing, understaffed towers, overworked tower guys, you get the feeling though with the number of near-misses that the US has simply gotten lucky in the past few years with such a good stretch of low fatalities.

The embarrassment of all of it is…cranky maybe you can write an article some day about it, it was written about in the WSJ about a month ago…how China has the safest skies despite breakneck speed in airport development and air travel.

By: Neil Duckett

Neil Duckett — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:37:03 +0000

That sends a shiver up my spine. It`s amazing how often that sort of thing happens too, the flight control is still a very manual process and prone to human error.

By: Perry

Perry — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:12:19 +0000

Yeah, I’m not suggesting it was all the controller’s fault. In fact, it’s very clearly the fault of the United pilots who made the wrong turn.

I was more alarmed by the controller’s seeming nonchalance about the whole thing. Like there was no possibility anything could be wrong.

By: 250k flier

250k flier — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:19:07 +0000

It has been widely reported that many towers are understaffed and overworked. Even so, the controller bears some of the responsibility. However, it is not fair to put all the blame on the controller. After all, the United crew initially made the wrong turn.

Clearly, there is a need for ground radar at almost all airports, especially those like PVD which are subject to thick clouds/fog and have intersecting runways.

By: Zack Rules

Zack Rules — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:14:25 +0000

This isn’t the first time a US Airways crew has avoided an incursion. There was one in Boston back in 2005 also. Great job on the crew’s behalf!

By: Perry

Perry — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:14:41 +0000

Man, that is scary! I wonder what became of that controller.

By: Wonko Beeblebrox

Wonko Beeblebrox — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:05:25 +0000

Direct link to the youtube video for those reading from the RSS feed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BvgSS6kBdU

(And may I say… oy…)