Comments on: Airlines We Lost in 2007 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/ Thu, 24 May 2012 05:28:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Indonesia Airport Services - Airlines - Ground Handlings - Catering - Fuel - Hotel - » Flying No More http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-17316 Indonesia Airport Services - Airlines - Ground Handlings - Catering - Fuel - Hotel - » Flying No More Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:08:39 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/#comment-17316 [...] at the Cranky Flier there’s a great piece about airlines that ceased rotating in 2007. Amongst those that closed [...] [...] at the Cranky Flier there’s a great piece about airlines that ceased rotating in 2007. Amongst those that closed [...]

]]> By: CF http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-17219 CF Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:41:39 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/#comment-17219 Alex C - Very true that it was unimpressive, but I think that was their niche. They were going for the price-conscious traveler. For their prices, you couldn't get business on anyone else, so this was better than coach by a lot. Eos definitely has a far superior product, but you'll also pay more for them. They're really going for the business class traveler who wants to save money and get an equal if not superior product. As for LHR, that's not always the best. Stansted is convenient for Canary Wharf, connections to low cost carriers, and many other places around London. Alex C – Very true that it was unimpressive, but I think that was their niche. They were going for the price-conscious traveler. For their prices, you couldn’t get business on anyone else, so this was better than coach by a lot. Eos definitely has a far superior product, but you’ll also pay more for them. They’re really going for the business class traveler who wants to save money and get an equal if not superior product. As for LHR, that’s not always the best. Stansted is convenient for Canary Wharf, connections to low cost carriers, and many other places around London.

]]> By: Alex C http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-16988 Alex C Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:23:47 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/#comment-16988 One thing about MaxJet though was that their business class product was utterly unimpressive. You probably know better than I do, but it seems that EOS at least has a decent product that would attract people. It's still got to be a challenge to get people to fly a commercial carrier to Stansted, though. If your company is paying for business class, you might as well fly BA, AA, or VS and get into LHR, right? I'd never heard of Harmony Air before, so that was interesting. Particularly that he owned it wholly! If he had enough money to start an airline, he probably had contacts who could have shared the risk, but I'm guessing anyone he would have asked would have laughed at the business plan, eh? One thing about MaxJet though was that their business class product was utterly unimpressive. You probably know better than I do, but it seems that EOS at least has a decent product that would attract people. It’s still got to be a challenge to get people to fly a commercial carrier to Stansted, though. If your company is paying for business class, you might as well fly BA, AA, or VS and get into LHR, right?

I’d never heard of Harmony Air before, so that was interesting. Particularly that he owned it wholly! If he had enough money to start an airline, he probably had contacts who could have shared the risk, but I’m guessing anyone he would have asked would have laughed at the business plan, eh?

]]> By: Flight Wisdom » Death of an Airline http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-16314 Flight Wisdom » Death of an Airline Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:35:50 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/#comment-16314 [...] Well, it is the holiday season, and nearly the end of 2007, and we thought we would briefly comment on the loss of airlines. The best review we’ve seen so far of the loss of airlines in 2007 is Cranky Flier’s Airlines We Lost in 2007. [...] [...] Well, it is the holiday season, and nearly the end of 2007, and we thought we would briefly comment on the loss of airlines. The best review we’ve seen so far of the loss of airlines in 2007 is Cranky Flier’s Airlines We Lost in 2007. [...]

]]> By: Smail http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-16027 Smail Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:23:33 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/#comment-16027 Ahh RegionsAir, how I will miss flying in your little Jetstream 31's. In the post 9.11 world, it was always a pleasant change to fly on planes without cockpit doors. Ahh RegionsAir, how I will miss flying in your little Jetstream 31′s. In the post 9.11 world, it was always a pleasant change to fly on planes without cockpit doors.

]]> By: Hunter http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-15793 Hunter Sat, 29 Dec 2007 06:14:30 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/#comment-15793 Nick Barnard wrote: "EAS always seemed like a reasonable idea to me.. I’d be saddened to see Big Sky go…" **************** Sorry, Nick, but I have to disagree. It's a false market. If there were truly demand for air service to these cities, the taxpayers wouldn't need to pay for it. And, trust me, we pay dearly. In many cases, these EAS carriers go in, suck up the grant money and then bail. I can't tell you how many times I flew from CDC to SLC on a 30 pax EMB with 1 paying pax. It was usually all non-revs from SGU. Nick Barnard wrote: “EAS always seemed like a reasonable idea to me.. I’d be saddened to see Big Sky go…”

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Sorry, Nick, but I have to disagree. It’s a false market. If there were truly demand for air service to these cities, the taxpayers wouldn’t need to pay for it. And, trust me, we pay dearly. In many cases, these EAS carriers go in, suck up the grant money and then bail. I can’t tell you how many times I flew from CDC to SLC on a 30 pax EMB with 1 paying pax. It was usually all non-revs from SGU.

]]> By: Nick Barnard http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-15698 Nick Barnard Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:44:14 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/#comment-15698 EAS always seemed like a reasonable idea to me.. I'd be saddened to see Big Sky go... EAS always seemed like a reasonable idea to me.. I’d be saddened to see Big Sky go…

]]> By: Wonko Beeblebrox http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-15684 Wonko Beeblebrox Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:47:43 +0000 http://crankyflier.com/2007/12/28/airlines-we-lost-in-2007/#comment-15684 your list may not be done just yet... "The Italian government has given its backing to Air France-KLM's proposal to buy Alitalia." The loss-making airline will now enter eight weeks of exclusive talks with its preferred bidder, Italy's Economy Minister Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa said. ...more at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7163153.stm your list may not be done just yet…

“The Italian government has given its backing to Air France-KLM’s proposal to buy Alitalia.”

The loss-making airline will now enter eight weeks of exclusive talks with its preferred bidder, Italy’s Economy Minister Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa said.

…more at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7163153.stm

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