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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s Going on With Virgin America?</title>
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		<title>By: The Cranky Flier &#187; Virgin America Heads North</title>
		<link>http://crankyflier.com/2007/11/14/whats-going-on-with-virgin-america/comment-page-1/#comment-12172</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cranky Flier &#187; Virgin America Heads North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wasn&#8217;t that long ago that I questioned Virgin America&#8217;s decision to focus more on short hauls. Well, they&#8217;ve announced their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wasn&#8217;t that long ago that I questioned Virgin America&#8217;s decision to focus more on short hauls. Well, they&#8217;ve announced their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried them for an SFO/LAX flight. The plane was not configured yet, so no entertainment, reclining chairs, etc. The plane was new, yet the first class seats already looked a little worn. Could be the color combinations selected or quality of the leather. I do want them to succeed, but so far they don't have the level of service or schedule options. I do have a $25 voucher due to the lack of entertainment so perhaps I'll try them again in a few months when they get their business in shape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried them for an SFO/LAX flight. The plane was not configured yet, so no entertainment, reclining chairs, etc. The plane was new, yet the first class seats already looked a little worn. Could be the color combinations selected or quality of the leather. I do want them to succeed, but so far they don&#8217;t have the level of service or schedule options. I do have a $25 voucher due to the lack of entertainment so perhaps I&#8217;ll try them again in a few months when they get their business in shape.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cranky Flier &#187; Virgin America Responds: It&#8217;s Door #3</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Cranky Flier &#187; Virgin America Responds: It&#8217;s Door #3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, I wrote a post talking about Virgin America&#8217;s decision to temporarily cut capacity in some of its long haul [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eric starkman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric starkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would be hard pressed to find someone who wants Virgin America to prosper more than me, so I'm naturally concerned about them cutting back on their transcontinental routes (which are the ones I fly).  Sadly, I fear some of Virgin's problems are the airline's own doing.

Virgin is a great airline for budget-conscious business travelers.  A first-class ticket is comparatively cheap and being able to work comfortably for six or more hours on a cross country flight is well worth the money.   Yet the airline totally ignores this segment and instead spends its limited marketing dollars on frivolous and costly promotions that generate a lot of media buzz, but clearly don’t attract loyal customers.  I recently received a promotion to fly a Virgin flight featuring Victoria Secret models; Virgin American should be focused on stealing AAdvantage flyers not people who frequent Hooters Air.  I can think of several business promotions utilizing the airline’s in-flight entertainment systems that I’m confident would attract business travelers. 

Then there is the decision to outsource the reservations system and agents.  Perhaps it’s been fixed in the past month, but the last time I tried booking on Virgin’s site it was plagued with all sorts of problems.  I’m a firm believer that companies who truly care about providing quality customer service don’t outsource any related functions to third parties.  Shockingly, Virgin’s CIO Bill Maguire was bragging about the system to the media even before it was introduced.

Finally, Virgin doesn’t even promote some of the fringe benefits of flying the airline.  In my experiences the airline’s turnaround time unloading luggage has been simply amazing; on my last flight, my luggage was waiting for me on the carousel by the time I got there (admittedly, the walk at Kennedy is pretty long).  By comparison, I waited nearly 45 minutes for my luggage on a Jet Blue flight last weekend. The international terminals at Kennedy and SFO have considerably better security crews, and I’ve gone from check-in to the gate within less than 15 minutes.  And in case anyone’s interested, the pizza served at the Italian kiosk near Virgin’s gates at SFO is pretty darn good by any standard.   Lastly, and I know Cranky you and others say it’s all in my head, but the air quality on Virgin’s flights is decidedly better.  

Fred Reid has put together an amazingly dedicated and competent team of professionals.  But he’s got some real problems on the marketing, public relations, and technology front.  If he doesn’t take corrective action soon, I can’t see how Virgin America can survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would be hard pressed to find someone who wants Virgin America to prosper more than me, so I&#8217;m naturally concerned about them cutting back on their transcontinental routes (which are the ones I fly).  Sadly, I fear some of Virgin&#8217;s problems are the airline&#8217;s own doing.</p>
<p>Virgin is a great airline for budget-conscious business travelers.  A first-class ticket is comparatively cheap and being able to work comfortably for six or more hours on a cross country flight is well worth the money.   Yet the airline totally ignores this segment and instead spends its limited marketing dollars on frivolous and costly promotions that generate a lot of media buzz, but clearly don’t attract loyal customers.  I recently received a promotion to fly a Virgin flight featuring Victoria Secret models; Virgin American should be focused on stealing AAdvantage flyers not people who frequent Hooters Air.  I can think of several business promotions utilizing the airline’s in-flight entertainment systems that I’m confident would attract business travelers. </p>
<p>Then there is the decision to outsource the reservations system and agents.  Perhaps it’s been fixed in the past month, but the last time I tried booking on Virgin’s site it was plagued with all sorts of problems.  I’m a firm believer that companies who truly care about providing quality customer service don’t outsource any related functions to third parties.  Shockingly, Virgin’s CIO Bill Maguire was bragging about the system to the media even before it was introduced.</p>
<p>Finally, Virgin doesn’t even promote some of the fringe benefits of flying the airline.  In my experiences the airline’s turnaround time unloading luggage has been simply amazing; on my last flight, my luggage was waiting for me on the carousel by the time I got there (admittedly, the walk at Kennedy is pretty long).  By comparison, I waited nearly 45 minutes for my luggage on a Jet Blue flight last weekend. The international terminals at Kennedy and SFO have considerably better security crews, and I’ve gone from check-in to the gate within less than 15 minutes.  And in case anyone’s interested, the pizza served at the Italian kiosk near Virgin’s gates at SFO is pretty darn good by any standard.   Lastly, and I know Cranky you and others say it’s all in my head, but the air quality on Virgin’s flights is decidedly better.  </p>
<p>Fred Reid has put together an amazingly dedicated and competent team of professionals.  But he’s got some real problems on the marketing, public relations, and technology front.  If he doesn’t take corrective action soon, I can’t see how Virgin America can survive.</p>
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		<title>By: AirlineFanatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>AirlineFanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I completely agree with you in that VA's in-flight services are designed for long haul flights cross country, not short California only hops.  The problem is of course that long haul flights aren't too profitable for anyone right now given fuel prices, and especially not for VA with their $129 fares.  It seems like the San Diego choice was a go between, they needed a place to expand but didn't want to start a loss making route like SFO-MIA.  I think that was the wrong answer, their competitive advantage lies in their long haul service, and they should stick to what they do best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I completely agree with you in that VA&#8217;s in-flight services are designed for long haul flights cross country, not short California only hops.  The problem is of course that long haul flights aren&#8217;t too profitable for anyone right now given fuel prices, and especially not for VA with their $129 fares.  It seems like the San Diego choice was a go between, they needed a place to expand but didn&#8217;t want to start a loss making route like SFO-MIA.  I think that was the wrong answer, their competitive advantage lies in their long haul service, and they should stick to what they do best.</p>
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