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By: Monday Roundup « Less Than a Shoestring

Monday Roundup « Less Than a Shoestring — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:19:53 +0000

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By: EO

EO — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:48:20 +0000

As time went on, PA got a few fifth-freedom rights to places like THR, WAW, VIE, ZAG, PRG, BUD and ATH, but that’s entirely separate from IGS.

IGS’s main existance was due to the fact that Lufthansa was prohibited from flying into Berlin after the war. So, IGS’s route structure was intended to provide domestic service on routes out of TXL to HAM, FRA, MUC, NUE, and STR, but they also had some point-to-point service in markets not involving TXL at one end or the other. IGS’s role died along with the fall of the Berlin Wall and the subsequent reunification.

By: CF

CF — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:05:01 +0000

IIRC, those were legacy rights from when they bought Pan Am’s European network. This goes all the way back to WWII. After the war, the Allies had basically dismantled any German air operation. That didn’t mean there wasn’t demand, however. So Pan Am operated what they called IGS, Internal German Service. Those rights are probably still there, but nobody wants to use them anymore.

If anyone has more info on whether this is right or not, I’d appreciate the comment.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:56:39 +0000

I remember flying Delta FRAnfurt to PRAgue as well as FRA-ATHens in the 90′s. Czech republic wasn’t part of EU but Greece was. How come this was allowed ?

By: AviationViews » Blog Archive » Open Skies Agreement Still has Storm Clouds on the Horizon

Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:11:03 +0000

[...] As usual The Cranky Flier has provided an excellent overview of the Open Skies agreement and where we will notices its effects.Â Make sure to check it [...]